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post #331 of 3166
3/30/08 at 6:24pm
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$5 says the affiliate responds that overlaying weather information is part of the "serving the public interest" requirement of their broadcast license.

Are they still "serving the public interest" by pulling those weather maps/crawls for the NETWORK commercials?? I'm not talking about the local commercials the staion makes money off of, I'm talking baout NBC or ABC's commercials. On several occasions I've seen a weather crawl disappear mid-sentence for a commercial break. What's worse is when they throw uop the crawl right before break, pull it mid sentence for commercial, and make you wait till later to read it again. Sounds like a good scheme to keep viewers.
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post #332 of 3166
3/31/08 at 5:00am
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Are they going to start promoting shows in for the fall soon?

They are going to start promoting shows for 2012 that aren't even in the writers' heads yet.
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post #333 of 3166
3/31/08 at 10:00am
Give me a break!! They put Countdown with Keith Olbermann on last night in Prime Time. And they didn't even bother to put the ad bug or olympic rings on during the show!!

Why are Olbermann & Dateline allowed to not have these annoying ads during their show? I said before and I stand behind what I said before that NBC is trying to "protect" their journalist integrity. The trouble is that NBC doesn't have any integrity left.

The Today show is already a 4 hour entertainment program and not a news program. This morning they tried to tease people with what they called a big announcement. Who cares if Kathie Lee is joining the 4th hour of Today starting next week.

The only other theory I can think of why these 2 shows were ad bug-free last night is that their target audience is probably the 55+ age group and NBC knows they are more likely to tune out their channel with the ad bug on there.
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post #334 of 3166
3/31/08 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Knicks_Fan View Post

I have bombarded every network with e-mails that does this, including the ones that don't have an HD feed yet. BBC America and ABC seem to be taking the lead in screen clutter in SD. Enough already with these idiotic promo bugs...

Knicks_fan >> I am with you 100% re BBC America - It's beyond pathetic! The promos in their SD signal are HUGE. And I do enjoy BBC America programming quite a bit, but it's getting ridiculous to watch, say, Kitchen Nightmares and then, BOOM, A GIGANTIC "Top Gear" ad! And that's from a HUGE Top Gear fan!

Another SD channel that puts a stupid ad: GolTv - It says "You are watching GolTV" - Oh really? I thought I was watching NFL Network, you know, football.... And Discovery Channel is going a step further now: "You are watching Mythbusters" - yeah, I thought I was watching Deadliest Catch...

And yeah, like other have posted here, I can't wait for NBC to start their stupid Olympic games countdown.... oh my...
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post #335 of 3166
3/31/08 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by YakHDTV06 View Post

Give me a break!! They put Countdown with Keith Olbermann on last night in Prime Time. And they didn't even bother to put the ad bug or olympic rings on during the show!!

Why are Olbermann & Dateline allowed to not have these annoying ads during their show? I said before and I stand behind what I said before that NBC is trying to "protect" their journalist integrity. The trouble is that NBC doesn't have any integrity left.

The Today show is already a 4 hour entertainment program and not a news program. This morning they tried to tease people with what they called a big announcement. Who cares if Kathie Lee is joining the 4th hour of Today starting next week.

The only other theory I can think of why these 2 shows were ad bug-free last night is that their target audience is probably the 55+ age group and NBC knows they are more likely to tune out their channel with the ad bug on there.

Probably because these shows have a lot of graphics in them already and the snipes and bugs would cover them up.
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post #336 of 3166
3/31/08 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by YakHDTV06 View Post

Give me a break!! They put Countdown with Keith Olbermann on last night in Prime Time. And they didn't even bother to put the ad bug or olympic rings on during the show!!

Why are Olbermann & Dateline allowed to not have these annoying ads during their show? I said before and I stand behind what I said before that NBC is trying to "protect" their journalist integrity. The trouble is that NBC doesn't have any integrity left.

The Today show is already a 4 hour entertainment program and not a news program. This morning they tried to tease people with what they called a big announcement. Who cares if Kathie Lee is joining the 4th hour of Today starting next week.

The only other theory I can think of why these 2 shows were ad bug-free last night is that their target audience is probably the 55+ age group and NBC knows they are more likely to tune out their channel with the ad bug on there.

Uhhh, excuse me. NBC still has SOME integrity left(as long as they have Olbermann). Olbermann is not a 55+ show. He has a Facebook page

AS for "Today", I agree 100% It's a toilet!! They took a respectable news program and destroyed it. More isn't better. Now there is more time to "waste", so they fill it with entertainment crap. It's as bad as a local FOX morning show.
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post #337 of 3166
3/31/08 at 2:17pm
LMMFAO! The words Olbermann and integrity in the same sentence do NOT belong. He along with the rest of *NBC's programming are a joke.
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post #338 of 3166
4/1/08 at 5:11am
Not an Olbermann fan since he left ESPN. Countdown this...
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post #339 of 3166
4/1/08 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by Knicks_Fan View Post

Not an Olbermann fan since he left ESPN. Countdown this...

He's a blundering idiot. They don't call him Slobermann for nothing. He was much better as an anchor on ESPN. At least then he knew what he was talking about.
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post #340 of 3166
4/1/08 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

Well, as mentioned above, Smallville was a new episode, yet the CW still had to tell us there are new episodes in a few weeks.

Anyone else find it amusing that they were advertising the fact that the show would NOT be on the next week?

NO NEW EPISODES
EXCLUSIVE
THE CW
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post #341 of 3166
4/1/08 at 10:02am
This is not an April Fool's Joke. Last night during the beginning of LENO, I saw the "old" NBC HD logo on the screen. The one that says HD next to the peacock that they used like 6 months ago. If so, I would rather see that on the screen than those constant ads for upcoming shows. We will know in a few hours for sure if the HD bug is going to make a comeback or not in Primetime and replace those "ad bugs".
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post #342 of 3166
4/1/08 at 10:52am
Maybe that is the joke, on us.
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post #343 of 3166
4/1/08 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by YakHDTV06 View Post

This is not an April Fool's Joke. Last night during the beginning of LENO, I saw the "old" NBC HD logo on the screen. The one that says HD next to the peacock that they used like 6 months ago. If so, I would rather see that on the screen than those constant ads for upcoming shows. We will know in a few hours for sure if the HD bug is going to make a comeback or not in Primetime and replace those "ad bugs".

I was horrified to see that thing again It looks like it was designed by a DeVry dropout. The SD logo was better(no ad, olympic logo, not as bright).

It may have been an April fool from NBC since the normal, transparent Olympic logo was up during Conan. No ads on the new episode of Conan
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post #344 of 3166
4/1/08 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by nickdawg View Post

Bug or no bug, I'll be watching. I've never seen "Monk" or "Psych" in HD. I assume they are since they are letterboxed on USA.

Yes. Both are, and look great. The only issue I have is they are framed to protect 4x3, so there is often extra space on the left and right of peoples' shoulders. It kind of weirds me out.
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post #345 of 3166
4/1/08 at 11:52pm
In a move to solidify NBC as the worst network for on-screen advertising during shows than even the rather new CW network, NBC is now putting up brief Olympic ads that take up a good portion of the bottom of the screen (about one quarter of the screen) 2 to 3 times per hour. And the Games don't begin until over 4 months from now. And it is the same ad over and over again.

Please tell me this is worse than the CW's ad bug. How can CW be worse than this?
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post #346 of 3166
4/2/08 at 6:18pm
CBS has joined the low life ranks of NBC, and CW. They are now telling me what I am watching and what comes on later or in a few days. All of this on the HD feed during HD programs. Watching CSI: Miami from Monday night.
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post #347 of 3166
4/3/08 at 4:58am
"New Earl Tomorrow" seen on all NBC programming last night. They love their bugs.
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post #348 of 3166
4/3/08 at 8:36am
I saw my first pop-up commercial yesterday. I was watching the local San Francisco Giants game against the Los Angeles Dodgers on our new Comcast Sports Net Bay Area (what a mouthful!). I thought I had gotten use to the pop up adds to remind me what I was watching or the ones that told me of some other show I didn't want to see. But then it happened. I was completely relaxed and enjoying the game when out of nowhere, a pop-up ad, accompanied by sound affects, jumped up in front of me advertising the movie "88 Minutes" opening in the next few days. It lasted about 5 or 6 seconds and then it disappeared. I felt like I had been ambushed. It jolted me completely out of the game.

It reminded me of the advertisements movie houses did in the 1950's where they showed an advertisement so fast the customers didn't know it. These ads told customers to buy pop corn or drinks. Luckily, those were outlawed. At least I saw this one. But the feeling felt the same to me. I felt so helpless. I know it may sound like I'm making a big deal out of something so small. But all I could think about is this was the first wave of commercials in programs to see if I would object. Next time, the spots will go for 10 seconds, then 15 and finally a full 30 second commercial in the program.

I use to enjoy relaxing watching a program on TV. Now, I can't help thinking I have to be ready to ignore the eventual pop-up add that may happen at any moment. I like to call this Ambush Advertising. At least I still have the power to not watch the program. I doubt I will give up TV. But knowing I will have to endure this process to see a program I enjoy, I'll think twice before I watch it.
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post #349 of 3166
4/3/08 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by MeCurious View Post

I saw my first pop-up commercial yesterday. I was watching the local San Francisco Giants game against the Los Angeles Dodgers on our new Comcast Sports Net Bay Area (what a mouthful!). I thought I had gotten use to the pop up adds to remind me what I was watching or the ones that told me of some other show I didn't want to see. But then it happened. I was completely relaxed and enjoying the game when out of nowhere, a pop-up ad, accompanied by sound affects, jumped up in front of me advertising the movie "88 Minutes" opening in the next few days. It lasted about 5 or 6 seconds and then it disappeared. I felt like I had been ambushed. It jolted me completely out of the game.

It reminded me of the advertisements movie houses did in the 1950's where they showed an advertisement so fast the customers didn't know it. These ads told customers to buy pop corn or drinks. Luckily, those were outlawed. At least I saw this one. But the feeling felt the same to me. I felt so helpless. I know it may sound like I'm making a big deal out of something so small. But all I could think about is this was the first wave of commercials in programs to see if I would object. Next time, the spots will go for 10 seconds, then 15 and finally a full 30 second commercial in the program.

I use to enjoy relaxing watching a program on TV. Now, I can't help thinking I have to be ready to ignore the eventual pop-up add that may happen at any moment. I like to call this Ambush Advertising. At least I still have the power to not watch the program. I doubt I will give up TV. But knowing I will have to endure this process to see a program I enjoy, I'll think twice before I watch it.

Just watch the Today show on NBC 7 days a week and there are people holding signs for just about anything you can imagine. Birthday signs, Anniversary signs, Engagement signs, Political signs, College signs, etc. Almost the entire 4 hours of the Today show now seem like they are geared towards the "Youtube" generation. Shouldn't these people be busy working or studying or something else during the Today show? It appears the Today show proves that just about anyone in this country wants their 15 seconds of fame.
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post #350 of 3166
4/3/08 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

CBS has joined the low life ranks of NBC, and CW. They are now telling me what I am watching and what comes on later or in a few days. All of this on the HD feed during HD programs. Watching CSI: Miami from Monday night.

I actually appreciate the fact that CBS puts the ads on right at the beginning of a segment and gets them out of the way right away unlike NBC and CW who put ads on during almost the entire show in addition to the brief ads telling you what is on now and what is coming up and they do it more during the middle of the show unlike CBS.

CBS isn't necessarily the villain here. Unfortunately they have to look current like NBC, CW, and ABC who put their ads on during shows. I think if you can convince NBC to stop this habit of advertising during shows the others would likely follow since NBC was one of the early adopters of this practice.
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post #351 of 3166
4/3/08 at 11:17am
3rd post in a row. I have to post this because I am disgusted by some news I just came across on both of the networks which is below.

1 VS 100 apparently canceled by NBC despite the decent Friday night ratings and the botched presentation all season long.

Smallville's creators leaving the show after 7 seasons because of a disagreement with the CW Network thus putting a new team in charge for the show's final season next season.

What is the matter with these 2 networks? Why mess up something that works? Why bombard us with pop up ads and on screen constant ads? Why do these stupid things when the writer's strike is already over? Now is the time for NBC and CW to step up to the plate and start broadcasting quality shows without on screen ads and stop showing us shows like Deal or No Deal for the 200th time.
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post #352 of 3166
4/4/08 at 6:43pm
Watching Earl last night and it reminded me why I don't watch NBC anymore. Tremendous bug taking up nearly the entire width of the screen and about 20% high up for some football movie. The pretenders or something like that.
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post #353 of 3166
4/4/08 at 7:57pm
yea

thats why I download everything it is much better without those adds in there

some places dont do this at all and some do it at different times

I have seen a episode of 24 that was from 3 different cities pieced together because in all 3 cities they had an add on the screen at different times so someone just cut them up and made an episode where there were no adds in the lower 3rd



on a side note, ever seen the movie Idoracy with Luke Wilson - "Ow my balls" show was like that along with every other onen on the TV they showed, it was all adds with a small "youtube" style window in the middle with the show on
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post #354 of 3166
4/6/08 at 5:20pm
FARMER WANTS
A WIFE
NEW SERIES
APRIL 30
CW

That's the latest ad bug on the CW. I guess now we have to suffer through shows being trashed with an ad for a bull***t reality show from now until the end of the month. The CW is definately circling the drain, almost in NBC territory.
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post #355 of 3166
4/6/08 at 6:02pm
Today, I was watching LOTR on TNT and I really loved the airplane flying from the lower right hand corner of the tv screen to the left, with king kong grabbing and swatting at airplanes atop the empire state building. It really added to the mood of the movie. Someone needs to swat TNT.
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post #356 of 3166
4/6/08 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by leftkidney View Post

yea

thats why I download everything it is much better without those adds in there

some places dont do this at all and some do it at different times

I have seen a episode of 24 that was from 3 different cities pieced together because in all 3 cities they had an add on the screen at different times so someone just cut them up and made an episode where there were no adds in the lower 3rd

I hear ya, it is really getting bad! Local affiliates are starting to do lower thirds and promos too.....


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on a side note, ever seen the movie Idoracy with Luke Wilson - "Ow my balls" show was like that along with every other onen on the TV they showed, it was all adds with a small "youtube" style window in the middle with the show on

I have, that movie really showed how tv adds to the decline with dumber and dumber shows.....
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post #357 of 3166
4/6/08 at 8:15pm
Yet another annoyance. On "Dexter" tonight there was an ad stating "This CBS station will be going all digital in Feb. 2009. Call phone #/website for more info". It was a network ad. I'm puzzled why they would run that on the DIGITAL channel?? Obviously if I am watching the digital channel I: A)have a digital converter box/DTV ready TV; B)have a HDTV/digital cable box. That ad SHOULD only be on the SD feed only, since it will be going away in Feb. 09. Think we'll have to put up with more of this crap in the coming months?

I've already seen the local affiliates running crawls during daytime programming about DTV. And I'm willing to bet there will still be some meatheads on 2/17/09 that don't know why their TV stopped working.
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post #358 of 3166
4/6/08 at 8:45pm
Well, this is America afterall, and many Americans can't think for themselves and require the government to tell them what they need to do or, depend on the the government to do it for them.
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post #359 of 3166
4/7/08 at 1:09am
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Originally Posted by nickdawg View Post

Yet another annoyance. On "Dexter" tonight there was an ad stating "This CBS station will be going all digital in Feb. 2009. Call phone #/website for more info". It was a network ad. I'm puzzled why they would run that on the DIGITAL channel?? Obviously if I am watching the digital channel I: A)have a digital converter box/DTV ready TV; B)have a HDTV/digital cable box. That ad SHOULD only be on the SD feed only, since it will be going away in Feb. 09. Think we'll have to put up with more of this crap in the coming months?

Now I know that broadcast TV is run by stupid frakin' idiots.

Thanks for the heads-up regarding this stupidity. I captured the show and extracted the snipe telling viewrs to order Showtime and the snipe about the DTV transition and placed the images on my website. If you want to see them, head on over to my TV Shows page.

When I read what you posted, it just floored me as to how stupid these network people are. I had to see it for myself.

Broadcast TV is right at the brink of the cliff and is about to fall over it. First there was the 42 minute program hour, then snipes, then promo text over the bugs (all screen clutter) and now just plain stupidity.
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post #360 of 3166
4/7/08 at 4:52am
Do I hear 40 minutes? And just in case anyone doesn't know where they are:

You're reading AVS Forum, HDTV Programming.
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