BD-UP5000 Universal Player Samsung [OFFICIAL OWNERS THREAD] & FAQ

Samsung BD-UP5000 FAQ

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cwmich,
Please, what is your display, and what is your viewing distance?

Other potential questions:

What if any player/s are you replacing this one with? If yes to either, does it outperform them? And on the difficult scenes from Mission Impossible 3 how does it handle the Vatican wall scenes in chapter 7? Any moiré on the steps in chapter 8?

Neglected my number one concern. Will it output TrueHD via analog out to more than 2 channels?

I think that's #3 on the list.

AcidRock also got it today and hopefully is putting it thru its paces right now...

11.) Does it play dvd+Rs?

MSRP is $799 and that's about the cheapest you can get it for right now. Maybe 5-8% off of that if you really work at it. It should drop some after the holidays.

I suspect that, as you suggested, it is just the same offer with new dates and for the 5000. We should know tonite when cwmich cracks his box open...


Yeah, mine was $799 with free ground shipping from the Crutch (I guess I am an owner, sort of, it shipped ). Pretty much standard MSRP price at this point although there has been talk of discount coupons some places on the tracking thread.

For contrast and comparison to the real owner's reviews soon to show up here, below are links to the press reviews:

HD Guru

Gizmodo

CNet

Sound and Vision

Electronic House

I really hope this OWNERS thread would stay on topic as to the performance and review impressions of the 5000 by its OWNERS. Questions by posters relevant to the abovementioned is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I am now an owner and will have the unit home in a couple of hours. Details here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post12493212

I need to pickup bluray content (I only have HD-DVD from my xbox360 elite HD-DVD drive), so I may need a couple of suggestions.

Something from Fox and an import HDDVD both with DTS-Master Audio.
Something recent from Disney/Pixar for Java interactivity and speed testing.
Something to test 7.1 discrete decoding.

And...
A wrist pad for your keyboard because the questions aren't going to stop coming.

Another std DVD question, please. Will it output them at 1080p24 like some of the Toshiba HD DVD players?

Dick Fogg

Prelim. reviews all say yes, forced 24p. That is one of the big ones for me as well - I eagerly await the first owners' take on this - ESPECIALLY anyone using it with an RS1 and/or a Crystallio II VP.

This is my biggest concern since I just took delivery on an Integra 9.8 Controller. I am awaiting delivery of the 5000 from Amazon. They said not till after 1/22/08. I have heard rumors of software upgrades that are not ready yet. I still don't know whether it will Bitstream advancedd audio codecs.

my qu 13: does the production model have a non-adjustable crossover and if so, is it fixed at 100Hz or 80 Hz ?

OK I have one for those that have the unit and have HD DVDs to test. I would like to know how Samsungs variation of "HDi" is. Per an insider for Microsoft Samsung sis not use HDi and instead used their own version for HD DVD advanced features. I would just like to see if anyone can notice a difference at all. Most of the other questions that have been asked though would cover me . Congrats to those that have received the unit you are very very lucky.

Unboxing impressions:

No freakin HDMI cable. Just a standard AV set (Left / Right / Composite).

I gotta start digging for a spare or go back to the store.

More info. Manufacturing date is 2007.11 (so, November). Serial ends in 00902N. Manufactured in China at Factory ID: "C"

Model # ends with /XAA

120V only. My guess is the N on the end of the serial is for "North America"

The only way to know for sure is to see if the player will actually play it. The manual also says it won't play DVD+R discs, but maybe it will. It you have any DVD+R I would like to know if it indeed will play in this machine. My Sony BDP-S1 will play BDMV created discs but not BDAV.

Here's another:

Can it output multichannel PCM via HDMI?

This is the way you're supposed to get digital audio out of a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player right? (Because of the internal mixing)

I'd expect MPCM via HDMI would NOT do any down-mixing, speaker distance, room EQ or bass management since the receiver should be able to do it on a digital signal.

I guess the 7.1 analog inputs are "down stream" of the DSP which handles this stuff for Dolby Digital, DTS, etc which is why everyone wants the player to do it.

I just got the computer and I dont have any BD-RE or BD-Rs to confirm it. I was just making sure it it would or wouldnt before I st it up in my system. I also have a Panasonic 30 and at Tosh 35 sitting in my living room. We are under a winter storm warning so I guess I will have plenty of time to play around with all of them. I just need to get to the store and get some discs. Does Wal-mart carry BD-Re, -Rs?

More info:

the HDMI input is really low to the bottom of the chassis, and this is causing me problems on the rack shelf (Gruber two space) since it has a lip. I've had to shim the player up so to not stress the HDMI cable.

So, the System Information Screen says:

S/W:071108.02_1114_0924.11_XAA
Region: A/1 (BD/DVD)

Looks to me like a software build date of November 8th, 2007.

I've hit my first couple of snags:

1) I am set up for 6.1 (just a single center surround). The analog setup does not give an option for one or two center backs. Just two.
2) There are no crossover point settings for analog out. My system (JBL performance PT800s towers and PS1400 subs) needs cross over at 80. The manual says in crosses at 100, but my subs will be happy with that (ok up to 150 in normal use).

Stuff that seems to work so far:
-Picked up a DHCP address (checked my router, the networking settings don't seem to show what the IP leased is)
-Set to 24P, which changed even the setup menu to it. My BenQ W10000 sees it, which is good because it is going HDMI through two switches (first, a Zektor HDMI5, then into a Zektor MAS71). Eventually, this will go through only the Zektor MAS71, but I am using a different components HDMI cable for the moment. I'm really tired of buying things today.

More as I go.

For giggles, since I am sitting away from it for the moment, but using my laptop (use your imagination), I checked for the following network stuff:

ping - nope
http - nope
https - nope
ssh (port 22) - nope
telnet - nope
ftp - nope

Speaking of network stuff, I turned on the NTP (network time protocol) option and it picked up the time, which was a good confirmation of the connectivity.

Boot time from standby (red led) to a menu is about 40 seconds. It says "Load" on the display and the HDMI output is off / not usable.

I checked my network logs on this boot, and saw it hit NTP servers on boot.

Next, I hit System Update, and it says no need to update (latest firmware installed)

Checking my router logs, the request went to:

http://203.254.223.77

For rigour, the log really said protocol TCP and port www, which just means what I typed above.

Now, when I type that into my browser, I get a pop-up which has lots of unprintable characters (probably need to set my locale to Korea), and then when I hit ok, I got redirected to:

http://liveupdate.blurayplayer.samsung.com/login.jsp

Which is a page for the DVD Division Administrator System. Not sure what good this does, but hey, I'm just being, well, me...

Folks - easy on the questions. If you look at the top of the thread, I already started the question list.

I'll hit stuff as fast as I can, but I am going to take a break and go see I Am Legend at midnight (in a few hours) on the local Imax. I'll hit this again after.

I'm going to start bringing up discs now, and I'll start with the DTS-MA thing with Die Hard.

Give me a bit.

Ok - Die Hard:

53 seconds (all seconds counted doing "1 onethousand, 2 onethousand, etc.") from door close to the FBI warning.
The Samsung loading screen was about 11 seconds, then from there was another loading screen, blank screens, etc.

I'm on the menu now.... wait for it....

Ok people... Given my trip to drop off the wife today at LAX, then to hit the Best Buy where I found this thing, it is quite fiting that, yes....

with DTS-MA, on Die Hard, I hear all channels going out the analog outputs, confirmed as John McClaine's plane lands at LAX.

DTS-MA, uh, maybe not. See the FAQ:

http://bd-up5000.wikidot.com

DTS-MA decoding at launch FTW!

I'll be at BB tomorrow trying to score one of these.