BD-UP5000 Universal Player Samsung [OFFICIAL OWNERS THREAD] & FAQ - Page 35

Originally Posted by dougmcbride

Has anyone checked to see if the 5000 will output 1080i over component when playing a SD disc? Based upon reading the manual, it is unclear and it also may be affected if the player is also attached via HDMI so the test would be only attached via component. I thought I read a post a ways back that indicated that it did, but just wanted to see what others are seeing.

Thanks,

Doug

Originally Posted by dougmcbride

I'm waiting for my player to arrive so therefore can't perform this test, but I have been wondering if we would see reduced bass from the analog audio interface. My receiver (Sony STR-DA4ES) has a setting for the analog multichannel inputs to bump the bass up by 10db "for DVD players as the bass level is 10db lower than SACD players" (quotes from the receiver manual).

One way I believe you can check this if you have calibration disc like AVIA and a SPL meter is to play the bass calibration section through the coax/optical interface, and then switch to the analog input and see if the level is down and by how much. Also check your receiver to see if it has the 10db bass boost feature for multichannel inputs.

If folks don't have the tools necessary to to this test I'll do it and post the results when my player arrives but it may be 2 - 3 weeks.

Doug

Originally Posted by K_Thompson

Ditto. If I get this player it will be connected via component cables to an older CRT HD RPTV at 1080i and would like to know if there are any issues with this type of connection, HD or SD. There's nothing specific about this in the FAQ. One person reported a line moving across his screen using the component connections at 1080i, but that may have been a defect in his TV. Further testing would be very helpful. Thanks!

Originally Posted by dougmcbride

I'm waiting for my player to arrive so therefore can't perform this test, but I have been wondering if we would see reduced bass from the analog audio interface. My receiver (Sony STR-DA4ES) has a setting for the analog multichannel inputs to bump the bass up by 10db "for DVD players as the bass level is 10db lower than SACD players" (quotes from the receiver manual).

One way I believe you can check this if you have calibration disc like AVIA and a SPL meter is to play the bass calibration section through the coax/optical interface, and then switch to the analog input and see if the level is down and by how much. Also check your receiver to see if it has the 10db bass boost feature for multichannel inputs.

If folks don't have the tools necessary to to this test I'll do it and post the results when my player arrives but it may be 2 - 3 weeks.

Doug

Originally Posted by Mr. Good Cat

I agree with what you did. I just(literally 5 minutes ago) cancelled my 5000 order. I also have the Panny 30(aswell as PS3 and XA2) and all these players have always worked without a hitch.

The LG BH100, LG BH200, and the Samsung BD-UP5000 are all appearing to be a "Frakenstien's Monster." I don't think CE's can be depended on(right now anyway) to cram all this tech into one machine and get it right....blue laser, red laser, decoding, bitstream, networking, profiles, excessive DRM(you know who I'm talking about), PIP, Java, HDI, etc.

Frakenstien's Monster

I will stick to the seperates

Originally Posted by haggisbingo

I don't believe I have that setting specifically for analog LFE output (Marantz SR8500). I could do it for everything (all audio out), but, I'd rather not. If you have this setting it would be great if you could test when you get the unit.

Originally Posted by DavidHir

In addition, I would be quite shocked if the BD-UP5000 could match the Blu-ray image quality of the Panasonic BD30.

Originally Posted by homerdodge

Xantech IR Repeater Won't Work

Anyone else by any chance use a Xantech IR repeater and does it work with the 5000.
Mine will not.

Originally Posted by dougmcbride

haggisbingo - after reading the thread I referenced above, it seemed as though this is a fairly common feature on receivers and pre-pros - it's just a matter of finding it in case you still have your manual. Mine was pretty well buried in other verbiage.

For sure it does not effect everything - only the analog inputs.

Doug

Originally Posted by haggisbingo

I just checked the manual online and it looks like a no-go, but, I will keep my eyes open for this. Thanks.

It's interesting, the optical out with an LPCM track works really great, but applying it to a TrueHD track doesn't seem to work as well. I thought because both were ending up as 2 channels over optical they would be similar. It appears the LPCM track is including alot more audio info...

Originally Posted by word302

first of all, what are you basing this statement off of?

second, why are you posting in this thread?

Originally Posted by audiomixer

I am glad you think the player is great! Mine gets hooked up tomorrow!

Originally Posted by haggisbingo

I just checked the manual online and it looks like a no-go, but, I will keep my eyes open for this. Thanks.

It's interesting, the optical out with an LPCM track works really great, but applying it to a TrueHD track doesn't seem to work as well. I thought because both were ending up as 2 channels over optical they would be similar. It appears the LPCM track is including alot more audio info...

Originally Posted by haggisbingo

Yeah, I thought the very vocal critics, who are in the minority, are giving the wrong impression, so I put that in my signature.
This player is absolutely fantastic and has worked for me without a hitch. It's easily many times better than the Denon 2910 upconverting player I had before..

Originally Posted by dougmcbride

haggisbingo - I checked a copy of the manual for your receiver (off the Marantz web site) and I think you are in even better shape than most. Check Page 23 and Page 30/31 on setting the trims for each of the channels. Rather than just having a fixed 10dB LFE bump like many receivers, yours allows each channel to be adjusted and saved - which overcomes part of the current (IMHO - minor) shortcomings of the 5000 analog audio setup. Just go in and bump up the LFE channel 10dB and see what you think. If you have a SPL meter you can even set the other channel trim(s) if they are off.

Sorry for the OT post, but I believe the concept may be relevant for those using the analog outputs and feeling like bass is weak.

Doug

Originally Posted by haggisbingo

Yes, please test. With mine, on analogs with an LPCM track I'm not hearing much bass or low tones. Maybe setting everything to large is the answer but it goes against everything else I've read..

Originally Posted by K_Thompson

May I ask why you chose the HD-DVD version over the BluRay version? Just curious. Sorry for the off topic post. You can PM me if you like instead of answering here.

Originally Posted by dougmcbride

Has anyone checked to see if the 5000 will output 1080i over component when playing a SD disc? Based upon reading the manual, it is unclear and it also may be affected if the player is also attached via HDMI so the test would be only attached via component. I thought I read a post a ways back that indicated that it did, but just wanted to see what others are seeing.

Thanks,

Doug

Originally Posted by haggisbingo

Yeah, I thought the very vocal critics, who are in the minority, are giving the wrong impression, so I put that in my signature.
This player is absolutely fantastic and has worked for me without a hitch. It's easily many times better than the Denon 2910 upconverting player I had before..

Originally Posted by kwindrem

There's two different "standards" for subwoofers: same level as the other channels or +10dB (based on the way Dolby originally set up the LFE channel in analog theater sound).

There's mention in the 5000's manual that you may need to compensate for this in the receiver/processor but doesn't really say which it is doing. From the posts, could be you need to add 10 dB of gain in the receiver compared to other sources.

Sub/LFE level is one more selection that should be in the 5000's analog setup!

I don't know for sure but suspect that when all speakers are set to "large", you only get LFE (low frequency effects) channel from the sub out. That's the way many receivers work any way.

Originally Posted by kwindrem

Yes, it upconverts to whatever video format you've selected.

Originally Posted by kwindrem

Yes, it upconverts to whatever video format you've selected.

Originally Posted by alv

Not on mine. The manual says it will pass 480i on component if 1080i/p is selected - however passes 480P on mine.

Originally Posted by tingbro

I agree with you wholeheartedly. As a happy 5K owner, I've not posted as extensively as other b/c I've had little to complain about other than waiting for the firmware update. Again, I want to emphasize that the picture is EXCELLENT and on par with my PS3 on blu-ray movies. I have had ZERO playback and audio issues so far with the 4 HD DVD discs and 11 Blu ray discs I've played (including Live Free Die Hard).

I do think it's important to point out any problems or issues that people experience so that Samsung can be notified to fix them in the future. However, I really get frustrated at general posts by folks who don't own the machine flaming it for not having the features/capabilities they want. It's a free country, by all means get the BD30 or have separate machines. The 5K fills a niche for me - I get picture quality on par with the PS3 without its issues (funky styling, fan noise, inability to power on/off using my Harmony remote), and I avoid having to buy a separate HD-DVD player that would each up my very limited cabinet space.


I also have a 2910 and the 5K does a better upconversion job on standard def, but the difference to me is more subtle (might be b/c the scaler on the Sharp LCD is pretty good already). However, the 2910 is staying b/c of my library of SACD & DVD Audio discs.

Originally Posted by dloose

Is it correct that the 5000 does not remix 7.1 to 5.1? Is this a capability in other players? Generally speaking how common are disks of either flavor that have 7.1 but not 5.1? Another cause of obsolescence LOL - my room works great with 5.1 and I have little room or desire for 2 more speakers. But if lots of content is released in only 7.1 that can't be remixed to 5.1 in the player I guess that becomes a requirement in a new receiver.

Originally Posted by audiomixer

Thanks so much for your input and honesty. I makes me feel better about my purchase. Can't wait to hook it up!