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post #11371 of 13494
Oh, I recommend that indeed....well, I actually haven't bought CD-RWs in years but Verbatim is still a viable brand AFAIK. IMGBURN, most definitely. Max burning speed shouldn't be a problem with the size of the firmware upgrade ISO, so long as your burner and disc are in good shape.

http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-CD-RW.../dp/B000B06PNK
post #11372 of 13494
Personally I would not trust anything but verbatim media burned on a mac with toast or disk utility. But to each his own. Recently I had success with kodak cd-wr that was dirt old, but given the slow write speed I don't think it could mess up. I've since decided to write them all to cd-r for backup since the retention time on rw is much less afaik. Also makes it easy to quickly upgrade and downgrade but with this new release that seems like a thing of the past?
post #11373 of 13494
Not everyone has a Mac.
post #11374 of 13494
That's sad. Let me work on that. Windows 7 is a good imitation of a Mac for those less fortunate. And there is always hackintosh.

But that's a topic for another forum. You go with what you know and trust. My wintel knowledge ended with '95 and j have some limited xp knowledge and run two in dark corners of my home and work office just to keep some balance.
post #11375 of 13494
lol, good on ye'. I guess I need to get an Imac or Macbook one of these days!
post #11376 of 13494
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

That's sad. Let me work on that. Windows 7 is a good imitation of a Mac for those less fortunate. And there is always hackintosh.

But that's a topic for another forum. You go with what you know and trust. My wintel knowledge ended with '95 and j have some limited xp knowledge and run two in dark corners of my home and work office just to keep some balance.

Windows 7 is an exceptional operating system. Rock solid.

Enjoy your Mac, they are great as well. But please do not malign Windows 7, or talk of users of Windows 7 as being "less fortunate". That's just BS.

As a longtime Windows user, I've always said that Macs are terrific computers, but it's the Mac users that I can't stand.
post #11377 of 13494
It would be nice if Sammy included in the next update the ability to watch Netflix and listen to Pandora, as I can do on my other Sammy...
post #11378 of 13494
Kilgore, I just bit my tongue...I'm accustomed to that attitude from Mac elitists, lol.

Spectrumsp, Samsung hasn't added any features to the 5000 since May 2008.
post #11379 of 13494
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Originally Posted by spectrumsp View Post

It would be nice if Sammy included in the next update the ability to watch Netflix and listen to Pandora, as I can do on my other Sammy...

With that said it would be nice to see Sammy enable the ethernet port to do anything.
post #11380 of 13494
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Originally Posted by cws_kahuna View Post

With that said it would be nice to see Sammy enable the ethernet port to do anything.

NTP is back working on 1.6 course all you can do is set your clock and you really can't see the clock or use it anywhere so it's useless except for anal folks like me that want it set right and don't like to spend the time setting the date and time after every reset or update. Most of the HD web enabled sites have been sut down long ago. Don't hold your breath on streaming or anything else. Those capabilities we not even envisioned when this was developed. It would be like expecting windows prior to '95 having a built in ip stack.

Sorry for the mac bigot comments. I will keep my comments contained to the 5k here.
post #11381 of 13494
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Kilgore, I just bit my tongue...I'm accustomed to that attitude from Mac elitists, lol.

Spectrumsp, Samsung hasn't added any features to the 5000 since May 2008.

I can keep dreaming, can't I...after all there is a Santa CLaus, right?
post #11382 of 13494
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

NTP is back working on 1.6 course all you can do is set your clock and you really can't see the clock or use it anywhere so it's useless except for anal folks like me that want it set right and don't like to spend the time setting the date and time after every reset or update. Most of the HD web enabled sites have been sut down long ago. Don't hold your breath on streaming or anything else. Those capabilities we not even envisioned when this was developed. It would be like expecting windows prior to '95 having a built in ip stack.

Sorry for the mac bigot comments. I will keep my comments contained to the 5k here.

As I understand it, the upgrade for the 5000 to enable the likes of Netflix and Pandora is simply a software issue, something they have done retro for most, if not all, of their older players...
post #11383 of 13494
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Originally Posted by spectrumsp View Post

I can keep dreaming, can't I...after all there is a Santa CLaus, right?

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...antasGrave.jpg
post #11384 of 13494
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Originally Posted by spectrumsp View Post

As I understand it, the upgrade for the 5000 to enable the likes of Netflix and Pandora is simply a software issue, something they have done retro for most, if not all, of their older players...

I don't think it is that simple. Not sure the chip set in the 5K is capable. I'm sure they might be able to enable it, if they wanted to. They would have to load up all those additional software features, and we might loose HD in the process? I checked the specs on all the older players recently wondering if I should pick up a cheep used one or one with a bad loader to do NF streaming. I did not see that older players of the 5K era had that capability. I did not do alot of research on the forums and Sammy web sites to verify and did not even know that was a possibility that they have done that. It's been 2.5 years and many generations of players since the 5K demise and a lot longer than that since the 5K was designed, engineered and first sold. I've lost count of how many players Sammy has released since and during the sale of the 5k.

Had they mentioned that in marketing as being an upgrade I would be upset, but to my knowledge they did not. There is however evidence that DTS-HD MA internal decode and analog and PCM out was advertised or mentioned. I can see where that one would make folks upset. I say, get over it and buy a modern AVR. Yes I know there are many that paid alot for some esoteric AVR years ago and need the analog out. I would think that you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between core DTS at 1.5 mbps and DTS-HD or DDTHD. I have pretty good ears and don't hear much difference with most movies. I think it is more psychological than anything and I'm more of an audiophile that a videophile. DTS at 1.5 is considered what they call "transparent" or whatever the term is.

Whatever it's still a great machine. If I want to stream NetFlix or Pandora I will do it with my computer or iPad. The video quality is not that great and the audio is only 2ch anyhow asaik.
post #11385 of 13494
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

Whatever it's still a great machine.

Agree. It does more than 98% of what I bought it for. I can quibble about some things, but overall it has worked so well that I have two.

Rick
post #11386 of 13494
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Originally Posted by bytown rick View Post

Agree. It does more than 98% of what I bought it for. I can quibble about some things, but overall it has worked so well that I have two.

Rick

Ya, I like 'em so much I have 3. For some reason I have been able to find killer deals on the 5K, but not on the LG BH200. The LG seems to fetch much more, for what reason I don't know. BD Live can't be that cool and last time I checked it had more HD and BD issues outstanding than the 5K even with the recent Fox issue? I could be wrong on that one since I don't use it as much as the Sammy. Had I ben able to find more open box and return deals on the BH200 I might have 3 of them and only 1 of the 5K. Who knows. I've been partial to Sammy TVs and optical players for a while now, and have not had great experiences with other LG stuff, so I was a little skeptical about it, but it has been a good machine.

And actually for me the 5K has exceeded my expectations. I never expected to have full HD audio streaming on HDMI and DDTHD internal decode to boot. When I first got it and DDTHD discs were only 2-ch that was bad, but at the time I would have been ok with hidden DD audio out SP/DIF converted to DTS since my old AVR loved DTS and hated DD. One of the reasons I'm a DTS collector.
post #11387 of 13494
A Samsung TV apologist too? Oh no. Yea, I had one of their LCD sets but when I was converted to Kuro, I never looked back. Of course, ironically, I'll have to in the future when upgrading.
post #11388 of 13494
Ok guys, where are we on DVDs that won't play with 1.6?

Is there a 1.6 problem disk area/section/thread?

I had several exchanges before I found my current 5000. Previous units would not play:
3:30 to Yuma
Sunshine
I Robot
Avatar
I can't remember what other discs I had problems with.
Do all of these now play?

I haven't moved from 1.3 to 1.6 yet. I will as soon as I feel like we have a handle on what will or will not play on 1.6. I really don't want to screw up what I have with 1.3.

Thanks for the confirmation on Verbatim and Img Burn.
post #11389 of 13494
The disc problem thread is updated to reflect what is known about 1.6.
post #11390 of 13494
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Originally Posted by James A. McGahee View Post

Ok guys, where are we on DVDs that won't play with 1.6?

Is there a 1.6 problem disk area/section/thread?

I had several exchanges before I found my current 5000. Previous units would not play:
3:30 to Yuma
Sunshine
I Robot
Avatar
I can't remember what other discs I had problems with.
Do all of these now play?

I haven't moved from 1.3 to 1.6 yet. I will as soon as I feel like we have a handle on what will or will not play on 1.6. I really don't want to screw up what I have with 1.3.

Thanks for the confirmation on Verbatim and Img Burn.

IMO 1.6 has been the best firmware update to date, I would feel pretty good in giving a recommendation to update your machine.
post #11391 of 13494
I am using the analog outs and have PCM set. Should I have PCM oversampling on or off? Thanks.
post #11392 of 13494
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Originally Posted by buckhunt View Post

I am using the analog outs and have PCM set. Should I have PCM oversampling on or off? Thanks.

In theory that setting should not affect or be applicable to analog out. But try it both ways and see what you get. Also same story on DD dynamic compression (or whatever it is called), however that should have an affect on analog if implemented correctly. I've never used the analogs to any extent on this machine, so someone more experienced would be better here.

I think it is PCM Down sampling? and reduces the sampling rate sent out via PCM on I know HDMI and possibly on SP/DIF. I'm a HDMI guy now (still not a major fan) and haven't used the coax out in over a year and the fiber like never.
post #11393 of 13494
Quote:
Originally Posted by James A. McGahee View Post

Ok guys, where are we on DVDs that won't play with 1.6?

Is there a 1.6 problem disk area/section/thread?

I had several exchanges before I found my current 5000. Previous units would not play:
3:30 to Yuma
Sunshine
I Robot
Avatar
I can't remember what other discs I had problems with.
Do all of these now play?

I haven't moved from 1.3 to 1.6 yet. I will as soon as I feel like we have a handle on what will or will not play on 1.6. I really don't want to screw up what I have with 1.3.

Thanks for the confirmation on Verbatim and Img Burn.

All of those movies have been verified to play over on the problem discs thread. I'm pretty active there making updates, so set your E-mail option on that thread and you will be kept up to date.
post #11394 of 13494
Very well may be down sampling. I was half asleep when I was checking my settings after installing the update. It had been a long time and I could not remember how I had everything set. Thanks for your response though.
post #11395 of 13494
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Originally Posted by buckhunt View Post

Very well may be down sampling. I was half asleep when I was checking my settings after installing the update. It had been a long time and I could not remember how I had everything set. Thanks for your response though.

No problem, glad to help out. I would recommend playing around with settings and seeing (or hearing in this case) what the effects are. Course not everyone likes to tinker like I do ;-)
post #11396 of 13494
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

A Samsung TV apologist too? Oh no. Yea, I had one of their LCD sets but when I was converted to Kuro, I never looked back. Of course, ironically, I'll have to in the future when upgrading.

I have a early generation (like 4th or so) 42" Sammy plasma that has been 100% trouble free and I bought it as an open box that someone said it had issues and it was perfect (crackling in the speakers, I think it was just buyers remorse as it was a $4,000 TV that I got for $900 years ago). We have had it for what seems like eons (4-5 years now). I also have a 50" Sammy DLP (sadly not the LED light engine, I missed out on the good deals there) and did have an issue that needed to be repaired, but Sammy was great to work with there. One guy came out and swapped the color wheel which was not the problem, then the next better guy came out and swapped everything else other than the bulb, case, possibly the power supply and the actual DLP chip. All the digital boards are new and that fixed a strange flicker problem in the lower and sometimes upper right side. It turned out that it was some digital board and not the DLP chip that was the issue. I freaked out a little seeing the guy rip it apart and actually remove the DLP chip and have to replace it in the new board. Worked out great though and we have had no new problems (other than those caused my my Comcast Moto cable box. But that is a whole other story). We use this TV a ton and it keeps chugging away. Still on the original bulb and it is like 2.5 years old with tons of use way above the average. I have 2 spares ready and waiting for when it goes. Also eventually my color wheel will possibly go, but I can probably swap that myself having seen it get torn apart twice now. If not I can get the part for not too much and have the tech that eventually fixed the TV do the work for way less than a new TV would run me. I'm only into the TV $100-200 out of my pocket and I think it was supposed to be $1,500 originally. It was purchased with a combination of Sky Miles, Discover Cash Back, and some SkyMiles that I was able to use to travel for work and they paid me what my tickets would have cost them and then I got a ticket for my mother-in-law on Delta and she paid me back making the TV not too much.

I would love a Kuro, but they are way out of my league. Sad that we are all being forced to LCD, but they are starting to finally come around. I still prefer DLP and Plasma over LCD and there are some newer Plasma TVs that are still more stunning than the best LCDs imoHO.
post #11397 of 13494
Glad to hear you had good experiences...and I agree with you on preference in TV techs.

I probably shouldn't have been blowing money on a Kuro but I wanted to have one of the best TVs ever made. ;D
post #11398 of 13494
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Glad to hear you had good experiences...and I agree with you on preference in TV techs.

I probably shouldn't have been blowing money on a Kuro but I wanted to have one of the best TVs ever made. ;D

Too bad Thomoson (GE, RCA, Proscan) does not make quality products anymore. If they did they would be a good choice for a modern TV. I finally sold one to a coworker that refused to die (the TV not the coworker ;-) had told my wife we would get a big flat non tube flat screen when it did. I got bored waiting for it to go out and found the deal on the Sammy plasma. I don't think I will ever own another TV that will last as long. We had the TV close to 20 years before I sold it. When I bought the 1st Sammy the GE pro monitor went in the bedroom and then was replaced by the plasma when I bought the DLP. It keeps us warm in our bedroom in the winter ;-)

Pioneer has always been a quality company esp. for their TVs and car audio one that you can stick by and never get burned by. I also hear their AVRs are not too shabby and heard some good reports on their HDPs. Always loved their turntables as well, but could never afford them when vinyl was the medium of choice for audio (wish I still had the room for a stereo, full analog only room/set-up).
post #11399 of 13494
We are just not a manufacturing-based country anymore and I fear it will bite us hard soon. Pioneer was one of the last manufacturers to have manufacturing facilities in the US. They just closed them last year upon exiting the display bidness. Yes, I can vouch for their AVRs. And they do make some mean DJ'ing equipment as well (CD decks and mixers...don't know much about their turntables, have stuck with Technics aka Panasonic aka Matsushita for the last 10+ years).
post #11400 of 13494
I need some help. I cut a couple of cd-r disks. Computer said Img. Burn successfully completed the burn but the Sammy says it can't read the disk.

I did a search in this thread for "reset" but didn't come up with how to do the reset. Is it different than just unplugging the player?

I also cleared the memory.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks-
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