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post #12871 of 13502
I'm one of those who has gone with an Oppo player a while back. When the loader when south (for Blu-Ray) on my BD-UP5000, I got a second one via eBay, which worked fine for a couple of months, then IT too had the loader go south :-( At that point I decided to forego the BD-UP5000 for Blu-Ray, and reserve it for HD-DVD and sometimes DVD use.

I did some scrimping and saving and got an Oppo BDP-93 for my main system and I've been quite happy with it, I also got an inexpensive but decent quality BD player for my bedroom setup.

I continue to monitor this forum because I still like the BD-UP5000 picture quality.

I'm gradually replacing my HD-DVD releases with B-D releases as they become available. Most of the ones I watch have come out on B-D, only a couple of them on my wish list are not out (yet).
post #12872 of 13502
The Secret World of Arriety played just fine for me yesterday on my 1.4 player. Watching Chronicle now. That loaded up, but when the menu was supposed to come up it got stuck in a video preview loop that plays when you select the version before the menu. I'm not sure what the issue was. I just hit stop then menu and it went right to the version (theatrical/directors cut) selection then to the menu. So if you rent it and run into the loop (sound familiar?) hit stop then disc menu and you will be fine. By doing that you get to see the new fox idler logo/screen that does not come up on this player since they updated that a while back. Better than a blank screen while loading.
post #12873 of 13502
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

The Secret World of Arriety played just fine for me yesterday on my 1.4 player. Watching Chronicle now. That loaded up, but when the menu was supposed to come up it got stuck in a video preview loop that plays when you select the version before the menu. I'm not sure what the issue was. I just hit stop then menu and it went right to the version (theatrical/directors cut) selection then to the menu. So if you rent it and run into the loop (sound familiar?) hit stop then disc menu and you will be fine. By doing that you get to see the new fox idler logo/screen that does not come up on this player since they updated that a while back. Better than a blank screen while loading.

I ejected and reloaded Chronicle and it worked fine this time, however a pop-up did come up and ask me if I wanted to restart from where I left off. The general trend lately with these newer movies that have this feature is that they are a bitch to get going the 1st time then are fine after that. It is either a trend or my loader is going out in my main 1.6 machine, but that makes no sense since the last several movies I have played have loaded up fine and played all the way through with out any issues whatsoever (sans the loading issues on just a few titles).
post #12874 of 13502
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Originally Posted by cjennin2 View Post

Just curious why nobody has gone with one of the Oppo universal players? The $500 one is sounding like my 5k replacement more and more though I haven't had near the issues that some others have had. My 5k is all original and other than occasional 1.4-1.6 shuffle it's been ok.
I went Oppo and never turned back (starting with the BDP-83 and then the BDP-93 that followed shortly after). I actually had to send both back for repairs (faulty flash memory on the 83 causing a failed firmware upgrade and a defective HDMI-related board on the 93 causing lots of handshake issues) during the warranty period, but Oppo was sterling in all respects. They covered the cost of return shipping and made the necessary repairs to the point I would consider buying from them again in spite of an apparent QC problem (or just bad luck). Both players have been perfect otherwise.

Kludge is way more frugal than me, so I don't blame him for getting the Yamaha for $13 (!?). I also use HDMI for audio, so any minute differences in audio quality that might have been subjectively detected in the D/A converters of both players will be of no consequence.
Edited by vinnie97 - 6/25/12 at 12:45pm
post #12875 of 13502
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Originally Posted by cjennin2 View Post

Just curious why nobody has gone with one of the Oppo universal players? The $500 one is sounding like my 5k replacement more and more though I haven't had near the issues that some others have had. My 5k is all original and other than occasional 1.4-1.6 shuffle it's been ok.

Several of us have (years ago now). Just ask in the Oppo threads. Few hang out here any longer.
Many have moved to the BDP-93, but I'm still using the BDP-83, since I prefer its DVD upscaling.
The BD-UP5000 sitting in the basement is a painfully slow, cantankerous POS. I can't stand to use it. Why not sell it? It might be more satisfying to throw it out a window.
post #12876 of 13502
Might be insane, but took a flyer on a "0X000000FF....comes up every time" unit on ebay. I'll try some firmware jumping first, and maybe a lens cleaning - any other tips?
post #12877 of 13502
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Originally Posted by hancox View Post

Might be insane, but took a flyer on a "0X000000FF....comes up every time" unit on ebay. I'll try some firmware jumping first, and maybe a lens cleaning - any other tips?

I think you will find that either the loader or the main board in that unit is toast in that order. Most likely the loader. Did they say that it comes up with all media or just BD/HD. Perhaps a master system reset and a kick in the pants might get it going. It might have gotten a bad firmware update also. If someone bricked it, there is not much that can be done. I will have to check the service manual for a brute force reset that might be available. If unit does boot then, yes you can try taking it back to the oldest f/w you happen to have on disc and go from there.
post #12878 of 13502
The new Sherlock Holmes, Game of Shadows loaded up and played without any issues, twice. The menu graphic even displays. There is a very long load time at the BD loading/idler screen. Must be a bunch of code that has to load. I did not hear any loader chunking and churning, just a long time reading and processing. I will have to watch it again when it comes on the premium channels since I fell asleep the 1st night I had it, got distracted by the laptop on the 2nd partial view and ran out of time last night before I had to take it back to the red monolith. Also on the 2nd load the resume where you left off function worked great and put me back to the end credits where I was before and the entire system had been turned off and back on and off for about 24 hours in between.

I love free rentals. I have had about 4 RB ones and a couple BB ones in the past few weeks.
post #12879 of 13502
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

I think you will find that either the loader or the main board in that unit is toast in that order. Most likely the loader. Did they say that it comes up with all media or just BD/HD. Perhaps a master system reset and a kick in the pants might get it going. It might have gotten a bad firmware update also. If someone bricked it, there is not much that can be done. I will have to check the service manual for a brute force reset that might be available. If unit does boot then, yes you can try taking it back to the oldest f/w you happen to have on disc and go from there.

All media, supposedly, which half-gives-me-hope it's firmware
post #12880 of 13502
Hmmm - hoping my hopes aren't completely dashed. Doesnt sound like it's even spinning the discs.
post #12881 of 13502
Uh oh, dead motor?
post #12882 of 13502
Could just be the belt, but if I remember right that only runs the tray? Could also just be a bad power/control cable connection as well. I gave all my broken loaders to the local goodwill when I moved, otherwise I would have parts if it is the motor. More likely the entire loader is toast.
post #12883 of 13502
Well this is annoying. Just got the UK version of T2 on HD in that mail today. For whatever reason it won't go into 24fps mode, and since it is a DTS-HD MA title there are frequent tiny audio dropouts. I also own the german steel box version, but it is still sealed and will remain that way. I only have these for collectors purposes. T2 happens to be a movie that I own each and every high def version of and most of the DVD versions (including the D-VHS). I don't know why I collect it, might be because it is one of those movies that have tons of versions and releases all with different qualities. If I were to actually watch the movie it would be on the most recent BD release, which of course I own. I haven't yet picked up the BD version that includes the statue/figurine since the BD is the same as what I already have.

I'm sure this will play fine on my A35, so no big deal. Just disappointing that wither the mastering of the disc prevents 24fps or the 5K is misinterpreting things, or the disc is coded incorrectly.

Have a good weekend.
post #12884 of 13502
I forgot to mention that recently Safe House and Jeff Who Lives at Home both loaded played without difficulty. I got my Yammy player on Monday, but it is still boxed up in front of me. I've been busy with other things and hope to break it out this weekend and give it a whirl. It's going to take some time to get set up since I have to find one of my wireless gaming adapters and get that going for it's online capabilities and I also need to scrounge up a USB memory stick for BD live.
post #12885 of 13502
The Giorgio Morodor restoration of Metropolis loaded and played without difficulty for me the other night. Also I popped in High Road to China and verified that it also loads and plays, though I have not viewed the entire movie. It's too bad that is the only source for that movie, one of my favorites from the era. It is definitely better quality than the DVD laserdisc/VHS rips that were out before and I assume better than the DVD version also released by Hens Tooth. I wish now that I would have rented or borrowed the DVD from the library. The sound is 2.0 mono, though it sounds great. I forgot that movie was low budget and had a mono soundtrack. My guess is that the 5K with it's superior DVD upscaling would look just as good or possibly better than the BD. Not sure about the audio if DD 2.0 would degrade the soundtrack much? It is expensive, but I found a used copy online for not too bad and used my freeshipping.com account to get a rebate on the shipping cost.

Trying to decide if I want to own one or both of the Metropolis restorations on BD. I like the soundtrack that Morodor did for the movie, but it really does not match up well and hasn't held up to the test of time. Some of the music has aged well, but not all of it. It does sound rather fantastic, esp. in 7.1. I have the Complete Metropolis in my queue that includes the original orchestral score for the movie and you can even download an MP3 of an actual live performance that matches up with the movie. I guess I might have to own both at some point? I have always been fascinated by that movie given when it was made and the vision of the future that Lang had. Too bad the movie was cut up and many parts lost over the years.
post #12886 of 13502
sorry about the shamelss plug, but i'm dumping both my 5k's and going back to 2 players for dual format.
post #12887 of 13502
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Originally Posted by tbase1 View Post

sorry about the shamelss plug, but i'm dumping both my 5k's and going back to 2 players for dual format.

No Need to apologize. It's going around. I have had my new Yammy in the box sealed up for the past couple weeks. Haven't had time or wanted to have to drag it out yet. I have 60 days with Crutchfield to beat on it anyway. I have a bunch of environmental, furniture and other issues to deal with before I have the space anyway. I think I am inheriting a nice console from my daughter that hope will accommodate my stuff. Plus I have a new set of front speakers for stereo only music listening that are also in their boxes that I need to hook up. Want to do it all at the same time. Hopefully this week or next I can find time to make sure the Yammy works ok. I really need a new AVR with more inputs, but I am resisting the expense at this point. I can just share one of the HDMIs on my present AVR with the Roku, 1.4 version Sammy and the Yammy until I figure something else out. Actually I won't have to even touch the 1.4 Sammys again, unless I am testing titles since I have the Yammy (if it works).

Now I am trying to decide how long I can hold onto the Sammys before I unload them (or if I am even going to do that). They are way fun to tear apart and play with. My guess is that any kind of HD-DVD player is going to hold some value well into the future?

Speaking of value. I knew that the 5-disc BD version of Blade Runner was out-of-print. What I did not know is that also the single disc directors cut is also out of print due to the new BD package release? Anyhow, I have my sealed 5-disc listed for 100 clams. I wish now I would have bought a BD suitcase when I bought my HD-DVD suitcase as they are now worth upwards of $300.
post #12888 of 13502
Journey 2 the Mysterious Island and Big Miracle both played for me yesterday without any issues.
post #12889 of 13502
In case anyone cares at all Burning Palms loaded and played without difficulty. Stupid, only slightly entertaining movie that is a cheep rip-off off a poorly done Twilight Zone/Outer Limits type concept. A couple of the tales were mildly entertaining. Believe the "one to avoid" rating on highdefdigest
post #12890 of 13502
I could not get the movie Intruders to load up and play on the 5K. it got as far as loading up the BD-Java idler that paints Hollow Face on some parchment then freezes. I was able to hit Menu, but all it did is change the display to Menu and continue to freeze. I had to break out the Yammy BD-P1010 that I have had in the box for nearly 3 weeks since I got it. I was looking for a reason to get it out and try it. Great machine, and it had no trouble with Intruders which has a DDTHD soundtrack. I also tried both versions of Casino Royale and Live Free or Die Hard since some of my new friends over in that forum were having various problems with those titles. Seems the 5K is not the only player out there that has issues with some discs. Nothing major compared with the issues on the 5K.

BTW - if you are bummed that the 5K can't play Intruders, don't be as you are missing absolutely nothing. Don't waste your time with that movie. Not only does it suck, the PQ and SQ are very lack luster.
post #12891 of 13502
Hello Guys,

I have a very long in the tooth BD-UP5000. I just finished creating a Blu-ray video in Toast, but the 5000 doesn't recognize the disc. I seem to remember that happening some time ago, with another Blu-ray I had created. It plays fine in my Panasonic upstairs.

So, here is my question: If I replace the BD-UP5000 with something current, is there a current Sammy that will be plug & play compatible with my Universal Remote Control MX3000, or am I going to have to re-program no matter what Blu-ray I choose?

Thanks!
post #12892 of 13502
I have been very remiss on my playability reports as of late. Here is a list of recently played titles that have loaded and played without issue over the past couple weeks; My Life as a Dog (Criterion), 21 Jump Street, Piranha DD and this evening Wanderlust.
post #12893 of 13502
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Originally Posted by rbouch8828 View Post

Hello Guys,
I have a very long in the tooth BD-UP5000. I just finished creating a Blu-ray video in Toast, but the 5000 doesn't recognize the disc. I seem to remember that happening some time ago, with another Blu-ray I had created. It plays fine in my Panasonic upstairs.
So, here is my question: If I replace the BD-UP5000 with something current, is there a current Sammy that will be plug & play compatible with my Universal Remote Control MX3000, or am I going to have to re-program no matter what Blu-ray I choose?
Thanks!

I have found that the same settings on my Harmony remote operate all of my Samsung players (1200, 5000, 4600). So you may not have to reprogram.

Rick
post #12894 of 13502
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Originally Posted by mr.kludge View Post

I have been very remiss on my playability reports as of late. Here is a list of recently played titles that have loaded and played without issue over the past couple weeks; My Life as a Dog (Criterion), 21 Jump Street, Piranha DD and this evening Wanderlust.

Glad to see that you are still in business Mr. K, even if Samsung is not responding. With all of your efforts, you deserve at least a response from Samsung, even if it is just a confirmation that they are no longer supporting what was once the best player on the market.

Both of my 5000s have now been relegated to HD DVD and regular DVD service, which means that they no longer get much use (the 1200 is in a spare bedroom). For blu-rays, I have moved on to Sony for my two main systems. Hassle-free, lots of wi-fi bells and whistles, and a very reasonable price. Two firmware updates in the last two months. Not a single playability issue so far.

Rick
post #12895 of 13502
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Originally Posted by bytown rick View Post

Glad to see that you are still in business Mr. K, even if Samsung is not responding. With all of your efforts, you deserve at least a response from Samsung, even if it is just a confirmation that they are no longer supporting what was once the best player on the market.
Both of my 5000s have now been relegated to HD DVD and regular DVD service, which means that they no longer get much use (the 1200 is in a spare bedroom). For blu-rays, I have moved on to Sony for my two main systems. Hassle-free, lots of wi-fi bells and whistles, and a very reasonable price. Two firmware updates in the last two months. Not a single playability issue so far.
Rick

Well thanks, but I have pretty much stopped sending in reports to them as they don't seem to care. I am thinking if I leave them alone and don't bug them for a year that reverse psychology will kick in and they will release an update....not. One of these days I will gather up the very few recent issues that I have had and slam them in. Besides I have a new toy that so far has played all the discs that won't play in the 5k. I thought about buying a used copy of Splice at the local Blockbuster to verify that it does play in the new Yammy. I'm sure it will. I have too many movies anyhow. I do need to go through all of my BDs that have various issues on the 5K. Have only had time for a couple so far.
post #12896 of 13502
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbouch8828 View Post

Hello Guys,
I have a very long in the tooth BD-UP5000. I just finished creating a Blu-ray video in Toast, but the 5000 doesn't recognize the disc. I seem to remember that happening some time ago, with another Blu-ray I had created. It plays fine in my Panasonic upstairs.
So, here is my question: If I replace the BD-UP5000 with something current, is there a current Sammy that will be plug & play compatible with my Universal Remote Control MX3000, or am I going to have to re-program no matter what Blu-ray I choose?
Thanks!

Man I ment to respond to this and got distracted with life. Anyhow as I recall the 5K is not certified to play BD-R media? I don't have any experience with that since I am an Apple user and they don't support BD directly and I am too cheep to buy a burner when I already have one in all my computers. Besides if I want backed-up content I can find that very easily where someone else has done the work for me. Anyhow I would bet that this is a media issue. Back in the early CD days and in the early DVD days when -Rs and -R/Ws and +Rs etc. I would run into issues where i would use one brand of media on the same computer with the same drive and content and one brand would play and another would not. Just a guess on that. I even ran into many devices like an older Alpine head unit I had in a car that refused to play cheep media burned above 1-2x where Verbatim and Sony etc. would play fine at full burn speed. I never did figure that out, but the player was not certified and did not support -R media anyhow. Also had similar issues with an Aiwa I had in my present car before my daughter willed me a Pio unit that I bought her for Christmas a few years back when I traded her truck for a sedan (and I got a sub out of the deal also :-) The Aiwa would not play a CD that approached 80 min. depending on what media and burner I used. That player was also not certified or supported -R media. The more expensive unit did, but I was too cheep to shell out the bucks.

Oh and yes I can confirm that ALL of the early original Sammy's use the same remote codes. I am not sure of anything past the 5k era however and they may have well changed things up. Not 100% sure, but I remember reading that the 1000 uses different codes. Also the 5K and other Sammy players use different codes than their older DVD and SACD/DVD-A players as I have one and they don't conflict. I think the only difference in the remote for the 5K is the stenciling for HD-DVD and possibly a label or two on buttons that have very slightly different functions.
post #12897 of 13502
Anyone need one for parts? Think i got in over my head on this one.
post #12898 of 13502
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Originally Posted by hancox View Post

Anyone need one for parts? Think i got in over my head on this one.

That all depends on what is wrong with it. If it has a good loader then I would for sure be interested in it I.E. the main or front boards or power supply as shot and the loader is ok. I could use an extra working power supply for cheep to have on hand so I don't have to raid my other units for when one goes. I do have a spare main board and case lid. I have been saving the new lid/cover for when I ever get around to selling my "project" player as it's lid is a little bent and worn, but nothing that anyone else would notice. I also have on hand a crapload of remotes, a spare loader data cable and at least one spare loader (a brand new one from Sammy that was put in for repair on my old original 2nd unit spare that I sent back for a refund through extended buyer protection). The loader I am currently running in my main unit is one from a broken player I bought of eBay some time ago that had a good loader, but dead main board. That loader has been the best yet, at least for BD. I haven't spun up many HDs in quite some time, but I know that it does work for HD and DVD as well as CD since not too long ago I had the house to myself for a couple days after we moved in to the new pad and ran a bunch of stuff through it.

Eventually I will start selling my surplus players. I'm just not sure at one point they will be worth more or less. My guess is they will be worth at least what I paid or more into the future as HD players get more and more scarce?

I know long answer to a short question. Shoot me a note about what is wrong, if anything, with your player and we can either fix it or take it off your hands.
post #12899 of 13502
HI all. The movie Trust loaded up and played without much trouble. There as a scene where there was some loud party music and it sputtered, pixilated and the sound went to crap, but I was able to recover quickly. Since this was a rental that has obviously had a lot of use and I did not clean it as well as I usually do before playing I think part of the problem might have been dirt, grime or dust. However it is a DDTHD title and we know the story on that one. I expected more problems, but the movie does not have much action or loud scenes or elements so it did not trigger the bug, other than that one scene, which was fixed with a pause/play and I also went back and fixed the glitch in audio with my magic audio restore macro I wrote for my Harmony remote.

The movie was rather good for a Millennium release, usually those are the kiss of death, but every once in a while they release one that is ok or even really good, which this one was. I recommend it, but if you have teenage daughters, you might not want to watch it. Either that or you will be taking their Internet connected devices and Internet access away.
post #12900 of 13502
Man on a Ledge loaded and played fine. The movie was much better than I thought it would be and I was told prior to watching it that "it is not what you expect". I wont' say anymore so I don't spoil it for anyone.
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