BD-UP5000 Universal Player Samsung [OFFICIAL OWNERS THREAD] & FAQ - Page 112

Yup, did mine and 3:10 is fine. Sunshine due Saturday. Anybody try "Ratatoullie" to see if the angle icon is gone?

Screen Messages Off should take care of that problem, right? At lest on my Samsung BD-P1400 it does.

Yeah, but then you don't get the status bar on the screen either.

Nope. I use coax, and I had dropouts w/ Gladiator.

Doug

No one's sure what we'll get, but it seems logical that once the player can extract the advanced audio formats from the disc you'll get bitstream of the undecoded audio to your receiver (via HDMI) but the player should also be able to decode it to PCM via HDMI and multichannel analog outs and reencoded to DTS via HDMI or S/PDIF. For analog, PCM and reencode, you would NOT need to update your receiver.

I suppose there's a possibility that shortcomings in the Broadcom SoC could prevent decoding of these audio formats. In that case, you should still get bitstream, but you'd need a receiver that could decode them.

OK I just completed the update via ethernet and noticed that my settings reverted back to factory defaults. e.g. I had to turn anynet off, and the HDMI settings for sharpness & noise reduction were also off (I had them both set to low before the update). I left all the settings alone and then checked the speaker setup. I had to change those back to accommodate my 5.1 speaker setup. I did notice though that when I did the audio test I got sound from all my speakers, wheas before the upgrade, I only hear sound from the 2 front & center speakers, not the rear. I have my audio connect to my AVR by SPDIF coax, since I do not have HDMI. I set the audio to bitstream re-encode & popped in Harry Potter Order Of Phoenix in HD-DVD to see if the PQ & SQ was different than before. I notice the PQ looked excellent w/o the sharpness enabled (previously it was on low to get the same PQ) and I got excellent sound from all 5.1 speakers when set to TrueHD (not just the fronts, as before). The Dolby Digital 5.1 also sounded very good, just a slight bit lower - my AVR showed DTS for both settings.

Note that my AVR can't decode TrueHD - so I am not sure why it sounded better than before the firmware update or why I now get sound from all my speakers when using that selection. Anyway - I am very pleased so far & plan to keep the unit. Maybe others with 1.3 HDMI AVRs can check if they are getting TrueHD or DTS-MA. I cannot with my equipment. I don't have time to check for the audio skips I experienced with SD while using bitstream setting but will later.

TrueHD via HDMI 1.3 is STILL 2 channel. I'll check DTS-MA in a bit.

Is it bitsreaming 2 channel TrueHD now or is it still sending out in PCM format?

My receiver says PCM.

Okay, so no change there.

Marty, PM me with the address and I'll drop it in the post to you. I've used mine now and my player claims to be upgraded.

For those that remember, I'm going to drop my copy of HD DVD Aeon Flux into the player tonight, let it go and see what happens.

Seggers

I confirm no changes in audio processing.

The one thing I was hoping this disc compatibility update would have fixed is the 4:3 for SD. Nope. It still stretches all 4:3 whether or not there's an anamorphic flag set on the disc.

"I confirm no changes in audio processing"

Any change in the LPCM clipping in analog outs?

In Settings is your TV setting still set for 16:9?

On second thought, that shouldn't matter. That is telling it what display is being used.

I'm not sure about your previous experience with Samsung, but this may be an issue that doesn't get fixed. I had the first Samsung upconvert DVD (DVI, before HDMI existed) player and it did this with 4:3 movies as well.

This is great news! As soon as I'm back from the grind tonight I will start the first of what I hope are a succession of continuing updates to bring this player to it's potential.

Can the 5000 output DD + over bitstream? or only DD

I will chime in that your theory correctly applies to me; that is, I am using coax and have no audio dropouts.

DD+ gets downmixed to DD when you bitstream it.

I'm glad that my TV lets me squish 1080p to 4:3. It's nice to get the stretched upconvert to 1080p and then decide how to view it with a quick change on the TV.

I've actually got a few letterboxed DVDs (4:3 with black bars stored), so I'm worried that if they fix 4:3 without adding a setting for how you want to see it, it would make it even harder to get those movies to fill the screen.

Ideally, we would have 3 settings we can easily switch between while playing: correct apsect ratio, stretch wide, stretch both ways. For me, if Samsung would just allow stretching 1080p tall on their 71 LCD, I'd be set!

New Firmware downloaded and installed today.

Confirmed... HDDVD of Soprano's Season 6 Pt II Disc 1 will not play. Menu locked.

I have no dropouts and am connected solely by HDMI. (Connected to a HDMI 1.2 receiver). Perhaps it is an issue with just certain titles?

I haven't noticed a problem with that either during the actual movie with mine. I've had the 5000 since 12/22 and have the 5000 going to a Oppo HDMI switch box then to my 52" Toshiba DLP (720p) that only has one HDMI input. I have the digital coax (Kimber Cable Silver) going to my Angstrom 100 which only does DD. (Will upgrade that this year sometime.) The Angstrom has always had a problem with glitchy pops when accessing the menu or skipping scenes and the scene changes between the FBI stuff. I was using an upconverting (HDMI) Toshiba before and have always had this problem. I haven't noticed that it's any worse than before although annoying. I don't have any drop outs or glitching during normal movie play even during layer changes or anything. At this time I don't have any way to use the multi-ch analog outputs.

I think I've been one of the lucky ones with the player as all of my SD disc's have played and all of the HD-DVD and Blu-ray disc's that I've used have played but I have not tried any of the disc's on the known-bad list except Live Free... which ran perfectly. I've used the player almost nightly since I purchased it and the first disc to freeze up was last night on Terminator 3. Ended up rebooting and then it played right through without a hitch. Go figure!

By "titles" do you mean movies? Because I definitely have had the problem in every single movie I put in whether it is owned or rented as well as SD, Blu, or HD. I've probably tested a dozen SD, 4-5 HD, and 6-8 Blu.

I'm connected to a 1.3 receiver via HDMI. I've experienced several audio drop outs during Ratatouille and Meet the Robinsons on Blu-Ray while playing the uncompressed PCM tracks. I've also experienced a few audio drop-outs during Harry Potter 3 on SD DVD. I watched Live Free or Die Hard on Blu-Ray bitstreaming the core DTS track and I didn't have a single drop.

I've got the same display limitation so when the 5000 stretches 4:3 I need to use "Normal" setting on my Sony LCD. That fixes the aspect ratio, but the image doesn't fill the screen.

The PLAYER really needs aspect control in addition to the TV Display aspect setup setting, and you need to access it while the movie is playing. Or they need to do it "automagically" based on info on the disc like my Sony DVD player did -- worked great -- never touched the aspect setting in the menus.

Nice to see the update. My 3:10 to Yuma works great, and the PCM 7.1 Uncompressed sounds awesome. HDMI to Onkyo 805. No audio drops (although I only watched half the movie to test everything out.) Certainly a step in the right direction for Samsung.

Same here.

Netflix shows that it is also available on BD. Can someone post if there is a problem playing it on BD. It appears to be a problem with Season 6 Part. 2 only. Part. 1 played fine. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Part 1 a double sided disk with both DVD and HDDVD(from Netflix). Part 2 is HDDVD only.

Scott

how do i burn the file from a mac???

i put three different burn formats and the 5000 says disc cant play

Used the iso mode from toast and burned from the mac disc burning in the finder????