Portable DIGITAL Television - Page 8

Anyone have any information or use on this? http://www.amazon.com/Envizen-Digita...dp/B002GP0PKM/

I've wanted a portable TV with a DVD player for a while now, and this one finally comes along. The only caveat seems to be the external battery, but I wonder if the APC battery packs could be used to get more than two hours. The TV is also ten bucks cheaper shipped free at buy.com. It also has an SD slot and appears to be able to be augmented with a better antenna.

As for the APC pack, I'm referring to this: http://www.amazon.com/APC-UPB10-Univ...dp/B000GBN42E/

Thank you for posting that. I have actually been casually waiting for something like this for quite some time. I have seen some of the various portable digital TVs and some of the DVD players and I knew at some point they would converge. I guess the big question now is how well it works. I think that DVD players are kind of a "mature" technology at this point, but I guess the real question is how well the ATSC tuner works. The two reviews posted so far look promising.

Here is the URL for the official webpage:
http://www.envizendigital.com/produc...c-ef6850a.html

I looked through the manual a bit more and it appears that it does not have NTSC receive capability. It will do either NTSC or PAL for DVDs, but one of the places where we camp at still has analog OTA TV and it would be nice if this also did NTSC. Maybe other manufacturers will have comparable units soon.

I saw this link on another forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVKm4...&feature=email

It shows how you can take a regular digital converter box and run it off a 12 volt battery.

Hello, I am new to this forum. I am also looking for portable digital TV player. There is a nice comparison chart of the Envizen Digital Duo Box at betterestore doc com (I can't post link. But if you go to their homepage, click the Duo Box, and you will see the tech spec comparison chart with four other portable digital TV /DVD players) .
Might be helpful for you guys as well.

I like that they add DVD features to the Digital TV player, and still make the price point very good.

I wonder if these devices will soon be replaced with devices with ATSC-M/H receiver? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC-M/H In as much as I would like to have the Envizen Digital ED6850A now, I know that as soon as the ATSC-M/H standard develops, there will likely be additional devices with that. I now that I wouldn't mind having a small device that receives digital TV audio.

http://www.betterestore.com/envizen-...yer-p-150.html


And this makes it seem like ATSC-M/H is moving forward.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post16944776

CNET has a review of the Eviant T7 7-inch portable LCD TV

http://reviews.cnet.com/portable-tvs...CarouselArea.4

The Digital Prism unit is back on sale at CVS until August 15 for $99.99.  I don't remember the model number, but it's the same one (different from the one at Office Depot) that they've had all along.

What I don't understand about that CNET review is that they act as if this is the first digital portable tv they've seen... and IIRC, it had some missing features that the Haier type includes...

As much as it would be nice to have a portable device that will tune ATSC now, I think I am going to wait until devices are available with ATSC-M/H in them.

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/5...ySection=story

Some truly ground breaking news was announced Thursday by Channel Six at the Nebraska Broadcaster's Convention. A new computer chip is in production right now that will allow Channel Six viewers to receive our TV signal, on hand-held devices, no matter where you are in the coverage area.

Let us introduce you to the future of television. "It's not necessarily I-Pod type video, or web video. This is video that is streaming wirelessly, directly from our transmitter," said Vice President of Technology for Gray Television, Jim Ocon.

He is working with Channel Six as a test plan, making WOWT the only station in the market with the technology right now. Mobile Digital Television transmits WOWT's live video, to hand-held devices.

The catch, there needs to be a receiver chip built-in. Because this is so new, those chips are very limited.

"The chips themselves, the little tuners, are actually being built as we speak," said Ocon. "So we expect to see the first consumer devices available at the stores in early 2010 if not the end of this year."

"This gives me goosebumps," said General Manager of Channel Six, Charlie Peterson. "This is the future of the television industry."

Peterson has one of the few cell phones with the built in chip. "The quality is really unbelievable and we're not even working with our better antenna, that we will be installing. So it's even going to get better, but I've been walking around with this, it's really amazing."

Because of a stronger digital signal, the video can be received virtually anywhere within Channel Six's coverage area. "It's designed to work in vehicles or whether you're out on the go, you could have a DVD player with a chip inside, you could have a cell phone, you could have a navigation system, so the possibilities are quite tremendous," said Ocon.

With Mobile Digital Television, it's like having a television in your pocket. Imagine the possibilities during a storm. Viewers will be able to take the hand-held device with them to the basement and have the warnings right in front of them.

"From an emergency alert perspective, I think it's going to be a must, or a need and not a want," said Ocon. "I think this technology is going to save lives."

Best of all, it's completely free. It's not offered through a cable or cell phone provider, so it does not even use cell phone minutes.

"I can't wait to see how quickly this explodes because once you see it working, and once you have it, you're going to want to have it," said Ocon.

For thousands of viewers who have missed Channel Six on the radio, on 87.7, in a few months, if you have a device with the built-in chip, you can take us with you. It will be available 24-hours a day.

I call BS. There is no cell phone on the market with "the chip" built in and I don't believe "well maybe he is borrowing a special pre -production unit" either. This news reporter has something wrong/mixed up.

Thank for the article though Jim1348.

The lack of credible choices for handheld ATSC receivers right now is very frustrating. None of the well-known brands such as Sony, Panasonic, Philips, or even LG have product right now. I am coming around to the point of view that I should spend the $100 or so this year for a product that I will likely look to replace in the next year or two. Not a very good ROI.

I think that is exactly my position on this as well. I wouldn't mind having a portable TV now, but I don't need one. I think the big manufacturers are waiting for the ATSC-M/H standard and then we will see devices from them. I, too, am going to wait for now.

I think we are all waiting for the new standard. I was really shocked that they would switch to digital and not provide for mobile viewing. I should have know something was amiss when I contacted Pioneer to see if they had a digital replacement for their Hide-Away TV module and they replied that they didn't, nor did they have one in the works. The funny thing I noticed about the reporters news article is that they spoke about portable TV like it was a new inovation...A Hello! we had protable AND mobile TV before they decided to take us digital. Right now I'm missing listening to the Today Show on the way to work or watching the evening news while stuck in traffic on the way home. I want my mobile TV back.

NAXA NX566 9" Digital LCD TV

VGA Resolution / 16:9 Aspect Ratio / Full ATSC Digital Channel Receiver / AC Adaptor, Car Cord and Remote Control

# Do you feel space deprived? For those with very limited space, like apartments or dorms, and on a budget, the NAXA NX566 is an ideal solution. It's perfect for small spaces and very affordable to boot! The NAXA NX566 is equipped with an ATSC TV Tuner that receives Digital-TV broadcasts (DTV) as currently used in the USA, per FCC. This compact TV comes with an AC Adapter for home use and a DC cord for use in a car. That makes the NAXA NX566 the "anywhere" TV with its bright 9-inch LCD screen. It has built-in speakers. There's also an earphone jack so you can attach your earphones for listening in complete privacy. A built-in lithium rechargeable Battery allows use on the patio or on a park bench. So gear up with DTV and get this Naxa NX566 Personal TV today. 9" TFT LCD Screen
# Resolution: (640*RGB*234)
# Selectable Screen Mode: Wide (16:9) and Normal (4:3)
# Reception Frequencies: ATV: 55.25 MHz - 801.25 MHz (Air and Cable Channel), DTV: 54 MHz - 803 MHz (Air Channel)
# Full ATSC Digital Channel Receiver within the Coverage Area - Receive Digital TV signals off the air with an antenna
# Full VHF/UHF NTSC Analog Channel Receiver
# Auto Channel Programming
# Digital Up/Down Tuning
# Digital Volume Control
# AV Input Jack
# External Antenna Jack
# Earphone Jack
# On Screen Display
# Full Function Remote Control
# Built-in Speakers
# Detachable Built-in TV Stand
# Accessories: AC Adapter, Car Cord and Remote Control
# Built-in Lithium Battery for complete, portable use (lasts about an hour per charge)
# AC/DC Operation

well I guess this was the wrong place to post this or too late to post it.........thanks anyway.

VGA resolution is 640 by 480, not 234. Although this listed resolution is quite common {and I think they meant 480 by 234, BTW), reading fine print such as the credits at the end of a movie will be problematic with this resolution.

This TV is HDTV in the sense that it can pick up with its supplied antenna (assuming you have good reception where you live) live over the air (OTA) HDTV broadcasts and watch them in a dumbed down resolution that many find to be perfectly acceptable.

"HDTV ready" sets imply they can do the same with the addition of one of three common external products:

A) A live OTA HDTV tuner (which this NAXA unit has built-in).
B) An HD cable box.
C) An HD satellite box.

This NAXA unit, like virtually all of its size, lack either of the two requisite HD quality inputs called "component video" or "HDMI" to allow it to work with an external HD cable or sat box. All it has is a low quality composite video in that will allow for an SD quality signal, but seeing as its native resolution is so poor, this doesn't matter much.

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For those of you that arent as tech savvy like me, and who cant really follow or hope to adopt all the savvy and well-intentioned solutions based on laptops and car inverters. The government didnt think ahead again (what a surprise) so that your average Joe could just pop in store-bought batteries and have some contact with the world during a hurricane black-out when he might be without power for days or weeks. I lived thru that in years past and my black and white analog TV is the only thing that kept my sanity.

The portable TV industry is also in Rip Van Winkle land---so busy flooding the market with portable handheld digital tvs that have native rechargeable batteries (i.e. home electrical power required) which are less than useless in, say, a hurricane black-out. "Brilliant!"

Heres a link to the only portable digital TV that runs on AA batteries. I make no representation its the cheapest or the best---just that I looked online and at brick and mortar at Best Buy and Brandsmart----and ITS THE ONLY FRICKEN ONE I COULD FIND. Now I dont need a computer or physics degree to watch the path of the storm when a hurricane knocks out the power for days.

Shame on the govt and the manufacturerers----given current economic circumstances, thinking ahead has obviously never been their strong suit.


http://www.newimagedigital.com/produ...elevision.aspx

PS Dont forget to buy a box o' batteries, LOL

I bought a 15.6" HDTV 16x9 today at CVS (Craig CLC501). Although it isn't "portable" it has a 12V DC input so I think in theory it could run from a car cigarette lighter or a car battery. The supplied AC transformer is surprisingly small for its hefty 3000 milliamp output. $150 on sale, every input there is: composite , S-video, component, HDMI, VGA, and RF with of course an NTSC/ATSC cable ready tuner ( I assume clear QUAM capable and I assume the HDMI is HDCP). The TV box says 720p but it of course accepts 1080i just fine and has an actual native resolution of 768 by 1368 and looks very sharp on HD inputs. The image on axis is pretty good but after running some test patterns through it I discovered it has very slight white crush and won't pass BTB. Off axis viewing is quite poor. I bought the set because I want the smallest possible HDTV with every kind of input there is for my kitchen and for only $150 I figured I couldn't go wrong.

I went through that site, and can't tell how long the set would run on regular AA batteries (10 of 'em). If it's like an hour or two...wow, changing out 10 AA batteries every hour or two doesn't sound appealing

They offer extended battery packs for multi-hour use. The cheapest (12 hour) is very nearly as expensive as the set itself!

I like that this option is out there, particularly for those in hurricane-prone/disaster-prone areas. It just doesn't seem practical.

The Haier I've got has a car adapter with it (comes in the box) -- so techincally if the power's out and I've forgotten to re-charge the battery lately, or if I have to use it for a while and the battery runs out of power, I can use that adapter to get it to work. Might not be convenient, but at least it would still work.

I can only hope that when the power does go out next time, it's for a short while! Though after late last winter's wind storm, the power was out for almost 30 hours. NOT pleasant when it's still cold weather, and the house's heating system is also electric. (And I don't even live out in the middle of nowhere! Though for those couple of days, you'd think I did....)

I just purchased the Haier HLT71 with a 7" LCD screen from Target (on sale for $99) and I am quite impressed. It has a surprisingly good digital tuner that picked up 6 local digital stations using just the monopole antenna; no doubt it would do better with a good antenna. It also works with cable but I am not sure if cable will still work in a power outage. PQ is pretty good for the low resolution (640 X 234) and okay for TV viewing, but text is difficult to read and that is what I really wanted it for, as a small display for my H/K DMC1000. So even though I will be returning it, for those who want a portable TV during power outages and aren't worrying about reading small text this one is pretty good, IMO.

Too bad you have to return it, dsmith...it's a nice little TV, as far as portables go.

I'd also be interested in knowing if hooking it up to the cable during a power outage will still give it any kind of boost, station or reception wise. I swear at one point, years ago, I was able to hook up an older portable TV (a Sony Watchman) to the cable when the power was out, and it seemed to help the TV tune in the local stations a bit better. I have to wonder if it would work with this TV in the same way...?

I do have a better antenna for it than the one that it comes with, and it does help get a clearer reception on the one good TV station it can bring in, in this neighborhood. (Line of sight/tree/mountain problems.) Still would be nice if I could get in 2 or 3 channels...

DGK

7-inch sold by BestBuy? The Axion model # is AXN-8905, and the Insignia is the NS-L7HTV-1?

Office Depot has the Prism (same as Haier) on sale for $89. (7" ATSC710 244-342)

I bought one of these, and it gets remarkably good reception. Not great with the supplied whip antenna, which is really better for VHF. I took an old UHF loop antenna from an old portable TV and connected it to a balun with screw terminals. It works GREAT, but looks kinda funky. When connected to my antenna system, it picks up 25 digital channels and 3 RF modulated NTSC channels from my Dish receivers. Not a bad picture, either, for the price, but the audio really sounds tinny and harsh. For what it is, I'm happy with it.

Brad

I have a the Envizen ED6850A and guess I am a bit confused. Included with the set was a coax adapter for the antenna, should this be able to tune channels from my cable tv connection (it's not?) I should also mention that this port says RF ANT next to it. Is that significant?

As far as the antenna it seems to be working but I can only get 1 channel.

It seems like a decent unit quality wise but I would like to have it on my desk as a cable tv unit if possible.