Portable DIGITAL Television - Page 14

Does both the MyGoTv and Auvio 7 inch tv's come with the rf connector cable where you can plug in an external antenna that has a f connector?

The MyGoTV website has an adapter available, so I suspect that means that the connector on at least one (or more) of their devices is not an F connector, but needs this adapter to go to an F connector.

http://www.mygotv.com/products-page/.../rf-connector/

It looks like the Auvio has an F connector.

http://www.radioshack.com/graphics/u...0906_PM_EN.pdf

Anyone here hear any updates on production units that supports, what's it called? ATSC M/H ?

I hope to get a portable with that and (*crosses fingers*) component in.

I've been looking for a small TV with component in for about a decade now!

Keep looking! The only Mobile DTV options I am aware of right now are:



-LG DP570MH 7-Inch Portable DVD and Mobile DTV

-Coby TV-To-Go USB Receiver DTV111

-Computer with legacy ATSC and software (Decontis Mobile TV Viewer)

^Thanks for those.

A) How do I find out if ATSC M/H (or do we now call it "Mobile DTV"? ) is broadcast in my area?

B) From my cursory viewing of those three possibilities they all seem to think their supplied rinky-dink whip antenna should do the trick (YEAH, RIGHT) and provisions for an external antenna (or cable) via F-pin jack isn't even offered!?

Since it seems we'll have colonies on Mars sooner than small TVs will be offered with component inputs, another possibility I've contemplated as a work around is getting an ATSC RF modulator. They were $14K when I first looked into it some years back but that means they'll be $7K the next, 3K a bit later, 1K after that, etc, etc. Soon they'll be giving them away with the purchase of any new hovercraft!

I'll finally get my little HDTV needs covered in the year 2020!

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=atscmph

I was looking online tonight and I ran across this Nextar GPS with a built in TV tuner. (It reminds me of the Garmin Nüvi 900T available exclusively in Italy with DVB-H mobile TV. https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=14807 ) Anyway, I don't recall reading that Nextar has ever been a highly regarded brand in the GPS community. I think that this is yet another example of the continuing convergence of electronic devices. Also, with CES 2011 less than a month away, does anybody happen to recall if we usually see new GPS devices announced at CES or are they typically announced at other times? (Who knows, maybe Garmin's next GPS will be a Garmin Nüvi 3795ATSC-M/H with a built in Mobile Digital TV tuner and wi-fi web-browser!)



http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nextar-V4-...e-GPS/14895302

http://www.nextar.com/frontend/prodd...00312,10000399

The Craig 13" is back on sale at CVS (SKU # 723099) for $99. Didn't see the 15."
Did find some other products that 12V inputs also under a Ben Franklin. Here is a brief run down on specs of what I found:

(MODEL #- SIZE-CONTRAST RATION - BRIGHTNESS - VESA-)
(in General, these are 16x10 and all have "anything input", except USB as noted).

CVS:
Craig CLC503 13" 400:1 VESA $100

HHGreg
Curtis LED1337A 13.3" (16x9) 500:1 220 cd/m² brightness VESA $90
Colby TFTV1212 12" (couldn't find any specs) VESA $80
Colby TFTV1225 12" cost more and couldn't find any info/manual on it)

Walmart:
Viore LC13VH54 13" 5000:1 brightness of 200cd/m2 (also has USB as well) $110
(again no manual and I am suspect on the contrast rastio).

Best Buy:
Colby TFTV1525 15" (not does not operate off 12VDC supply) (16x9) 600:1 220 cd/m² VESA $100

The Nextar makes more sense than the Garmin to me. The Garmin looks like a handheld device, so at first glance it seems to make sense to provide access to subscription mobile TV. But combining that with a GPS is just asking for some idiot driver to stick it on his dashboard! I wonder how many wrecks this thing has caused in Italy?

The Nextar, in contrast, has a standard ATSC tuner, not mobile DTV, so the TV won't work when the vehicle is moving. (Mobile DTV would be good for the back seat, but there'd be no need for GPS.)

That has me wondering: is anyone offering, or planning to offer, a combined ATSC/Mobile DTV tuner? Reason I ask is that I expect more and more services (esp. subscription services) will be offered via Mobile DTV only, since offering the same service via both ATSC and Mobile DTV would chew up too much bandwidth. So even though Mobile DTV is rather low-res, it'd still be nice to have one tuner that receives both.

Based on what was announced at CES 2011 recently, it appears as if several Mobile DTV products are coming soon. RCA announced several models and you might be encourages by this statement from them:

".....With nearly 70 U.S. TV broadcasters now transmitting in the new ATSC Mobile Digital TV format, RCA is also introducing handheld 3.5” and 7” portable TV models that offer the ability to receive both standard ATSC and Mobile DTV signals – an industry first. And a tiny RCA tuner/receiver will soon be available for a video-equipped van or other vehicle to allow easy reception of the new “on the go” transmissions....." (Italics added by me.)

Here's a look at what RCA has announced:


3.5-inch Hybrid Portable Television DMT335R ($109): LED backlit LCD screen, hybrid ATSC or Mobile DTV reception, AC power or up to 4 hours of playback time on rechargeable AA batteries, real-time signal strength indicator, closed captioning capability, easel-back stand, English/Spanish display, and monopole antenna.


3.5-inch Hybrid Portable Television DMT336R ($149): Wide-screen, LED backlit LCD screen, hybrid ATSC or Mobile DTV reception, FM radio reception, AC power or up to 4 hours of playback time on internal lithium polymer battery, real-time signal strength indicator, closed captioning capability, easel-back stand, English/Spanish display, and monopole antenna.


7-inch Hybrid Portable Television DMT270R ($169): 800x480-pixel high-resolution wide-screen LCD screen featuring 500:1 contrast ratio, hybrid ATSC or Mobile DTV reception, AC power or up to 3 hours of playback time on built-in lithium polymer battery that can recharge while plugged into a wall outlet or auto power source, real-time signal strength indicator, closed captioning capability, easel-back stand, English/Spanish display, and 360-degree adjustable antenna.


Pocket Mobile DTV Car Tuner Receiver DMT3BR ($119): Features a "discrete" design that is smaller than a deck of cards, hybrid ATSC or Mobile DTV reception, powered by car charger, easy connection to the car infotainment system's audio and video input jacks, remote control, and a monopole antenna.



http://www.rca.com/2011-ces/

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-20027477-283.html

http://www.cydle.com/product_i_srs.aspx

http://bradfortner.wordpress.com/201...011-bwone-com/



The Cydle i30A ATSC Mobile Digital TV for iPhone & iPod Touch interests me because my wife and both of my sons have the iPod Touch. It looks like either the iPhone or iPod Touch can connect with this this device, but I still can't tell if it is just ATSC-M/H or BOTH ATSC-M/H AND ATSC. I would be reluctant to get a device that is only ATSC-M/H.

^Thanks for the update, Jim.

That 7" TV with 480p resolution , instead of most 7 inch LCD TV's measly 234 , intrigues me the most. No point in waiting for a higher rez "1080p 7 inch TVs", if they ever even show up, since my viewing distance is never under 11 inches, so what makes them "better" will never be realized.

Thanks, Jim. Those look interesting; particularly the car tuner. I have a 7" 800x480 LCD screen that'd be a perfect match for it.

I'm still looking for a traditional STB design that'd let me receive "Mobile DTV" with my home TV and antenna (even though they're not "mobile"). Right now that's kinda pointless since the only things on Mobile DTV are duplicated by what's on standard ATSC, but I expect that'll change in the future.

I actually found one of these Nextar GPS's on eBay. Although it comes with a standard vehicle mount, I think it, like the Garmin, was aimed more toward hikers: in addition to the TV, it also includes a micro SD card reader with a .MP3 player and a JPEG image viewer. The latter would be as bad an idea for drivers as the TV (which, BTW, works fine when stationary, although the tiny antenna is pretty useless for the handful of stations still on VHF frequencies).

Edit: It has a jack for an external antenna, but I'd never seen that type of connector before. It looks like a very, very tiny version of a European-style PAL connector. It could possibly be a U.FL connector but I'm not sure. I haven't yet found a compatible antenna, adapter, or matching transformer to plug into it.

I haven't been able to try it myself yet, but from reading the manual it doesn't appear to automatically switch to the GPS when moving. So if you watch TV or view photos with it in your car, you need to be sure to exit and switch to GPS before you start driving.

3D without goofy glasses? I guess eventually, sure, but in 2012?!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/l...e-dtv-eyes-on/

Here's also a great site for us MDTV enthusiasts:

http://www.watchmdtv.com/

Certainly worth following, IMO.

http://getmyelectronics.com/collections/mobile-tv]RCA Portable TV — Mobile TV

This site leads me to believe that the RCA Mobile DTVs are available for purchase already. I would email the company to verify, but I don't see an email address lsited.

They also list some accessories:

http://getmyelectronics.com/search?q=antenna

Your first link was broken; I fixed it above

mygoTV seems to have the same products as the RCA site, but the prices are different. It would be nice to see some reviews of these.

http://www.mygotv.com/

The older ATSC/NTSC portable TV's seem to have better screens. Most of the M/H offerings have 4:3 screens (odd) and none have AMOLED screens, whereas two of the ATSC only models do. Look under "Product."

It's still not clear to me if any offer external antenna options. I can't imagine they will be very effective without them, but I suppose external antenna ports aren't considered "appropriate" for such devices.

Edit: Ok, I tried to go into the store for the Mobile DTV devices and it just says there are no products in that group! So much for the price given on the front page.

Buying a 4x3 TV for watching 2011 OTA TV. What on earth were they thinking?

1. If you want to purchase a mobile hybrid TV in the US, this is the site:

http://getmyelectronics.com/collections/mobile-tv

They are shipping.

2. The cheapest model does have a standard external antenna input.

D'oh! Waited too long.

They just raised all their prices $10.

It really instills a strong sense of quality when they, a multi-million dollar world wide company, feel it necessary to sell the product under the stated proviso that "all sales are final".

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Other mobile DTV stuff:
http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/112970

How did the Craig tv do with the 12v connection to a car?

I am looking for something to use on my sailboat, so the 12v part is identical. Plus, my Atrix cell phone has hdmi output, and a netflix connection. Viewing angle will be 45°, worst case, and distance 8' max.

What do you think of using the Craig? A marine tv will run $500 or more.

^If you mean me, I've never actually done it.

"Boat ready" designs sometimes offer a bit more protection from "salty air", as I understand it. Or sometimes not; they just have a higher price tag and will self destruct in the same period of time.

edit to add: I use mine on my work bench and from exactly on-axis the image is OK, but not great. It varies if even slightly off axis though. If you expect to use it off axis I wouldn't recomend it unless it can easily be returned for a full refund and you want to give it a test spin.
Edited by m. zillch - 11/12/12 at 4:14pm

Christmas 2012 is less than 2 months away. Has anybody here seen any new portable DTVs lately?

Although it has no internal battery power option, the RCA 13" TV/DVD combo I recently reviewed in another thread may be of interest to some here. It has a 12V input, so I guess one could power it from a car cigarette lighter or an outboard battery.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1015575/why-have-kitchen-sized-tvs-vanished/60#post_22514529

The tuner sensitivity is the best I have ever encountered, but that's not surprising. 2012 TVs that cost $99 have more modern and better tuner chips than 2002 TV's that cost $10,000.

[CVS raised the $88 black friday price to 99.99, but still a good deal this week]

EDIT TO ADD: As far as I know, it is ATSC only, no M/H DTV [or whatever they call it these days] as best as I can tell from the display info.
Edited by m. zillch - 11/28/12 at 2:29pm