RS2/ PRO-FPJ1 Owners: Setup Discussion Thread - Page 8

I can't understand half of it but it sounds good. At first I though the was saying its a little technically improved over the RS1 but at the end it seems as if it's a knockout. The opened mouth comment from someone who routinely views Sim2 and other high end projectors is very telling.

I am considering exactly the same setup. Debating between the RS1 or the RS2. Have been looking at DLPs, waiting for reports on the new BenQ 20000. Wonder if the RS2 will be bright enough on, say a Carada BW. Room is 100% light controlled. Dark blue drapes almost all around. Dark rug, black velvet all around screen and charcoal grey ceiling with black felt panels. Since the RS2 would need an external processor, price may be similar for both.

My old projector was a Sony 1251Q CRT, which served me well for 14 years, but brightness did become an issue the last 2 years or so. (96x72 Stewart 150 4:3 screen).

RobZ,
tough translation indeed. Andrea states " This is the best projector I have ever reviewed. This is the one I would buy today if I was buying a digital projector. Applauses and my compliment to JVC".

He thought it was the best he'd reviewed? He's been a long time CRT guy hasn't he? In the RS2 pricing thread I remember him stating that he felt it was an RS1 with a few little improvements to the menus, etc. Maybe that was before he actually tested it.

BTW, I believe the review is only on the Italian page and not the English version.

His review starts with :"Il miglior proiettore digitale che mi sia capitato di provare." which translates " The best projector I HAVE EVER reviewed". I speak fluent Italian. I follow his reviews and I was amazed that he would state this. He has reviewed projectors which are much more expensive than the RS2, so this is very significant. I bought my Marantz VP12-S2 as a result of his recommendation several years ago. I am upgrading to an RS2 as soon as Jason from AVS becomes available/interested.

Based purely upon this , Art's review, and Greg Roger's review I'm possibly going to regret buying anything other than the RS2. However, a few first impression posts have me undecided. Foer example: RS1 First Impression and another impression. Also: Cine4Home

Yeah that link you posted definitely doesn't make the projector sound that good. It is interesting to see the different views. The dudes that are the hardcore reviewers extoll its virtues. I guess one thing is they do know what to look for to do a good projector to projector comparison.

I saw some dude post a shot with the most horrible looking light corners. I saw another shot with some serious uniformity issues. Mine doesn't have these issues. Anyhow, I feel your pain. It does cost more. I was originally going with the RS1, but when the RS2 came out I coudn't resist the upgrade.

Dude , if you're referring to the Italian reviewer, I'd be interested in hearing exactly what you are basing this on? I see superlatives . . .

For the price of a new RS1 or VW60 I think the RS2 is almost a no brainer (possibly less than $2k more). I got lucky with the RS2 demo deal from AVS so it makes it a tougher decision. Now the RS2 is approximatey twice the price.

He's basing it on the two AVSer first impressions I posted links to. RS1 First Impression and another impression.

I don't see any review of the RS1/HD1 from Andrea Manuti so it's impossible to determine his opinion other than the RS2's performance.

I followed those links. Basically, they say the RS2 *is* better than the RS1, so "definitely doesn't make the projector sound that good" seems un-warranted. And the main thrust of your post was the Italian reviewer and he definitely liked it.

Yeah I was basing this on RobZ's most recent link. Not the Italian one.
I thought that the Italian one was very complimentary even though I don't know what a ducking is.

The first link that Robz posted said it was better, but not that much. He had the following quote:
"If you have a HD-1 STAY WITH IT...."

I was in no way trying to downplay the RS2. I have one and love it. I think it is way better than the RS1s that I have seen. I was just mentioning that the review he posted was exactly glowing praise.

The one thing that I see with the RS2 that is pretty rare is a virtual concensus among trusted professional reviewers that feel that the RS2 is one of the best digitals available at any price. However, I'm far from a pro reviewer and my opinion will be more in line with the average projector enthusiast. For this reason, I'm searching and reading the AVSer opinions and getting an idea of the thoughts on it. I'm scarred by the fact that a few years back I bought my H79 for $6200 and sold it for barely over $2k after 150 viewing hours.

Ummm, yeah, that one was completely inscrutable.

I'd be "scarred" by that experience as well. Scared, too.

In that the RS2 is incremental, I'd agree with that. In that the RS2 is incremental over a complete CATEGORY KILLER, I think the review he posted was glowing praise.

Yeah good point dude.

Robz,

I am sorry that you were so scarred by your last projector purchase.

This is my first post at AVS. After reading the various screen threads I decided on a SMX 120" wide 2.35 aspect curved AT screen for a ht in a vacation home in Lake Havasu. Chris, I thought I would be the first in LHC until Rubin told me that he recently sold to someone in LHC. I bet it was you. Needless to say, I have already found reading AVS threads expensive.
After installing the SMX, I was planning to go with the RS2 with the Panamorphic lens. Cameron, I never really heard whether you resolved your alignment issues. I will also be using some vert. lens shift. How much shift are you using?
With all the pj in the 5k-10k range, has anybody on this thread had buyers remorse with their RS2 purchase? If so, what pj would be their first choice now?
Enjoying the informal candor,
Doug

Hmmm. Alignment issues? I had some ceiling mounting issues when I added the panamorph system while attempting to keep everything secured to a floating joist. I have come up with a prototype to deal with that problem, but other than that, everything else is just peachy. No buyers remorse at all.

I have mine ceiling mounted and am using a 2.35 120" wide screen. The screen is mounted lower than a 16:9 would be by a little bit so I use a touch more vertical shift. I also use a tiny tiny bit of horizontal as my RS2 is mounted about 4-5" off center. No problems with the shifting. It isn't in the extreme range, but the vertical is more that I would like.

I have a hard time sleeping now and often I even see rainbows at night. My wife doesn't understand that treatment is necessary (purchasing an RS2). It's the only way I can confront my fear of Projector Depriciatopathy. I wonder if there is coverage under my BC/BS plan?

Cameron, I was referring to the #5 post where the image was off by 7". It sounds like the problem must have been resolved.
Thanks for the reply,
Doug

Ah that issue. Well if your RS2 is not centered with the screen, the zoom is not perfectly linear. It really isn't a problem with the projector, but it did change the way I am doing things. At around post #5 I was trying to do CIH without an Anamorphic lens or dedicated VP. That has changed quite a bit for me as I found a really good deal on a Panamorph/sled combo. Then at that point, I purchased a RadianceXD for a dedicated VP. The final setup is killer, but did cost more than anticipated.

I am not very good at staying under-budget with anything.

I doubt there is anything under BC/BS, but maybe if you are signed up with Afflack. They cover all sorts of weird crap.

I'm sure your wife will understand your need of therapy.

I say go for it dude!

Hmmm. Budget,what an elusive concept. Try owning an airplane. I never discuss my budget with my wife until the project is over. It avoids line item vetoes.
Is it proper to ask where you got your Panamorph/sled combo. I have been all over the net trying to fine a good price on that puppy. Thanks for the info, looks like a vp in now in the budget.

Yeah let me look it up and send you a PM. It is rebranded by Optoma, but is the same thing.

Quick Question:

How do you adjust focus on the RS2? I recently had the opportunity to view one in a dealer's showroom but it was slightly out of focus and the remote and menu system seemed identical to my RS1 (and I couldn't find a focus option). I even went into the service menu and nada.

Sort of had me wondering if I was viewing an RS1...

Thx

It has the same remote as the RS1.

From Projector Reviews:

Thanks Cameron,
Doug

I talked to my local dealer who carries JVC at MSRP only. He has the RS1 ($5500) and said he wouldn't get the RS2 for a month or two.

So, my decision is based upon reading and is why things get confusing. I finally read Greg's review today. The projector sounds excellent but from what I understand the CR from the RS1 was 16400:1 and the RS2 25200:1 but the modified ANSI CR is the same on both at around 310:1. He often mentioned the improved gamma settings and it actually seemed to me that that was what he felt was the biggest improvement (in addition to the better CR of course). Couldn't the same level of gamma adjustment be made with a Lumagen HDP?