Philips 3570 ? do you suggest it?

Kejo I grabbed the Philips 3570H while on offer here. So far I am pleased with it. I was a little disappointed because it understood that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory I recorded from tv was copyright (but I havent tried recording it to dvd yet to know what it does in such cases).
I have recorded on SLP which is super long play and cannot see any difference in quality at all - I was very impressed. The picture quality is very good. Recording is easy, you dont have to remember to put it into standby like you used to with VCRs. You can watch HDD or disc while recording TV. The live TV thing works brilliantly - I love being able to rewind when watching football - excellent.
The only thing that annoys me is that if you want to go for example to time 00:20:53 from 00:00:00 you will have to press the button 20 times to get the 20 and 7 backward to get 53 because it won't scroll That is a pain!
It doesn't lose the time when the power goes off (unlike LGs apparently) - I have it set to get the time on AUTO from the teletext signal. This was very important for me because I like to record things when I am away for like a week.
It has progressive scan but no 1080HDMI stuff. It does have RGB out tho. I have only a normal CRT TV with no SCART! And it connects up fine. You can record from external cameras or other devices ... yesterday we had a laugh recording from the Playstation game we were playing!
For the money it is very good. I am very pleased. (I would have loved a Panasonic but dont have the money, Sony I do not trust to be reliable - having said that, my cousin has one he has had for 4 years ok)
Its an excellent bargain
Hope that helps

Are you sure it doesn't scroll?

I've got the very simlar 3575 and it does scroll... the first press of the up arrow moves the counter one minute but has a ~1-sec delay (in case you just wanted to move a minute or two), but if you just hold the up arrow down, it starts scrolling after that 1-sec delay.

Like all scrolling functions, when you get close to the number you want, you don't want to fast-scroll by it, so only then do you want to use single-digit increases by pressing the up arrow 1-minute at a time.

One neat feature of the 3575 (3570 also?), and one I use a lot, when you have two 1-hour shows or more recorded in one session and you want to get the 2nd or 3rd show, if you're currently at 00:35:00 and want to go to 1:00:00 for the 2nd show, you arrow up the hour block one time (single press w/delay) and the counter automatically goes to 1:00:00, not 1:35:00 like my Pioneer does. It's smart enough to know where you want to go, but still gives the option to also change miniutes and seconds if desired.

I don't suppose this would work if you started with the minutes, assuming you really did want to go to 1:35:00 instead of 1:00:00?

That's cool! I have to say I did sit with the button pressedwaiting for the scroll ... but will try again perhaps I didnt see it working.
The only other negative thing I could say is that the texts are rather small to read ... we dont sit that far from our tv but I keep on having to get up and have a look to see what it says.
We have pretty basic tv here still so we don't get program titles and stuff like that and typing in the names is a bit tricky because of the small text (and its a little slow to respond - my fingers are used to speed texting on mobiles!)
Do you US based folks actually get a tv signal that carries info on when the adverts are etc? I have had various recorders that had the ability to tell if ads were on and wait to record (VSC is it called?) but never known if it actually works!

In the U.S., networks and advertising agencies are not sending any advance notices of commercial breaks, in fact they're going the other way. Just to "mess us up" in timeshifting and commercial break uniformity, they're running programs 1-3 minutes long, starting right on the hour, and making commercial breaks staggered in timing and length. Some early commercial, for example, might be only 1-minute in length, while later ones, once you're hooked into the program can run as long as 4-5 minutes.

Wanna move?

LOL, I am so not surprised. I have noticed that US programs they show here are so broken up by adverts - I remembering reading that it was because the average attention span of Americans is very short (ROTFL)! I am sure that is not the case and that it is just for money grabbing reasons. Our ad breaks often last as long as you say .... so our new policy is we go off and do the washing up or something for the first 15 mins of any program we want to watch 'live' and wind it back to the beginning so we can then skip over the ads without catching up to live.
It's great they invent all these wonderful things on these machines but hardly any of them have any real world function! I am glad that it wasn't just my impression that such ad alerting doesn't actually exist for our benefit anywhere, and it's not that we are just backward here
Going back to the scrolling ... you are right it does scroll ... at the speed of a one-legged frog! What is with that? The reason I couldn't tell it was actually scrolling is because you have to press the button down and hold for over 20 seconds for it to change to the next digit... then another 20 s and another .. Yikes! So a choice between pump pump pump those buttons (RSI here we come) or get cramp holding them down till it gets where you want to go.
Real dumb. Unless I have a dodgy IR unit - though it does flash on the receiver's front when it receives and it flashes more frequently than the digits change so prob daft software somewhere.

Well, your 3570 is much slower on the scroll than my 3575. Mine goes pretty fast and you have to go to single presses when you get close to your number.

Must be for us Americans to suit our short attention span!

I tired to post a response of just but it wouldnt allow it!
Oh well, good one Wabjxo

Probably just that slow so my poor old eyes get enough time to squint and make out what the numbers actually are

It does scroll, indeed, but with a rate of 4 seconds for a digit in my case. To be honest, I didn't try the feature until reading your post. I simply type in the HH:MM:SS to get where I want, which is IMHO much faster and more accurate than scrolling. Six button presses get you directly to the desired position.

Hi, I'm new here...

Has anyone done anything with the usb port on this unit yet?

I would like to use an external USB hard drive plugged into the DVR's USB port and then play DIVX files from it and hopefully record on to it. I would also like to be able to edit video on the PC and transfer the footage to the External HDD for playing on the 3570.

Can anyone tell me if this is possible

Thanks for reading this

~Mike~

I use the USB port to play divx movies from a stick. Unfortunately, I can' test it with an external HDD, because I only have NTFS formatted drives and as far as I know, the DVD players/recorders can only access FAT32 filesystems. There is also a size limit of the partition they can access (32-64 GB on some DVD players).

HTH,
Alin

When I put the USB thumb drive in, it will recognize photo and music files but not movie files.

???????

Silly me, I just noticed I am using the 3575, that may be the difference.