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post #31 of 664
So far I'm not seeing a lot the problem discs, Bourne Ultimatum for instance and some of the other Universal combo discs that seem to be plaguing the Toshiba camp on the list. Is the Samsung better at playing them or will it take longer to find out.
post #32 of 664
I agree some discs are problem causing but I have to admit I have not had a single Blu ray disc issue with the Panny 30k. Also with my Onkyo HD805 HD DVD player. The list for the 5000 is much to large for a unit just coming to market...
post #33 of 664
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

The list for the 5000 is much to large for a unit just coming to market...

The inability of the BD-UP5000 to play all commercially manufactured HD DVDs & Blu-ray discs is unacceptable to me given this is the 3rd generation of HD DVD players to hit the market, duo format or not.
post #34 of 664
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I agree some discs are problem causing but I have to admit I have not had a single Blu ray disc issue with the Panny 30k. Also with my Onkyo HD805 HD DVD player. The list for the 5000 is much to large for a unit just coming to market...

Quite the contrary....almost EVERY new piece of electronic equipment comes to market initially with a high(er) list price. That's the nature of electronics, the price drops as the market demands it. Look at the Toshiba HD players...started out in the $400 range and now some can be found for under $100!!!

I purchased a 50" Hitachi LCD rear projection 3 1/2 years ago for $3,500 and now a comparable unit today is $1,200.00 or less!!!
post #35 of 664
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

The inability of the BD-UP5000 to play all commercially manufactured HD DVDs & Blu-ray discs is unacceptable to me given this is the 3rd generation of HD DVD players to hit the market, duo format or not.

you know, i just don't understand where you are coming from or what your motivations are...

EVERY player out there has issues with commercially manufactured discs...that is the state of these new formats...

although, to be honest, i've not had problems with my XA1 and XA2 players other than *hiccups*

and the same, at least for now, holds true of the 5K for me...i've not had problems playing back a bd disc other than maybe a *hiccup* on one or two...


also, isn't this samsung's FIRST GEN hd dvd player?
post #36 of 664
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

you know, i just don't understand where you are coming from or what your motivations are...

I agree. He stated many posts ago that he returned his, yet he is still here posting about why he did so. Seems like he's trying to justify not keeping it - or he realized the mortgage was due!
post #37 of 664
So far every single disc I tried played without any issues. I haven't tried any HD-DVDs yet (gonna try The Kingdom tonight), but after about 15 BD movies, no problems to report.
post #38 of 664
I have not had any major issues with my Samsung BD-UP5000 playing BD and HD-DVD discs other than the occassional hiccup in audio that others have also reported. The movies play all the way through fine with excellent PQ. I do not see any noticable nor bothersome digital noise other than the grain that is in the source itself. I don't see any crawling ants or dots or mosquitoes in Transformers scene 3 snow scene (maybe I am looking at wrong scene?) The only scene early on with snow/ice scene is the one where it shows his grandfather in the antartic (or antartica) pole on the ice with his crew. And that scene seems to be intentionally fuzzed over to make it like a flash back scene... so it is a bit grainy on purpose?
The other quirks I have experienced is with Ratatouille with the "angle" icon popping up in the middle of the movie and the menus don't seem to work. The player seems to get confused on some menus or during playing of movie and remote control keypresses don't respond until you stop and restart the disc playback.

I chalk all the menu misbehaviours to the already alluded to "Disc Authoring" bugs and not the Samsung 5K. And I hope that these inconsistencies will eventually be fixed with a firmware update as soon as Samsung (and others) get in "sync" with the disc authoring makers.

The only other thing that concerns me about this player is the lack of fully implemented TrueHD and DTS HD MA audio handling. I wanted a new player for the high def audio as well as HD video. Hope that a firmware update enables all of these decoding capabilities.
and fix the crippled analog functionality also.

Other than these concerns (gripes?) I think this player is excellent. It will be kick-ass if they really do fix the deficiencies with the new firmware update.
post #39 of 664
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Originally Posted by blackkat98 View Post

I agree. He stated many posts ago that he returned his, yet he is still here posting about why he did so. Seems like he's trying to justify not keeping it - or he realized the mortgage was due!

The mortgage payment, property taxes, DVC membership dues & post Christmas Visa bill are all due next month... the total charge is (10) BD-UP5000s however, this has nothing to do with my decision to return a sub-par DVD player to Best Buy.
post #40 of 664
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Originally Posted by BenDover View Post

also, isn't this samsung's FIRST GEN hd dvd player?

Exactly....and as you said, other HD players are having problems too (mainly the BD ones with Fox titles).

Im not surprised at all though....Do I wish these players could play absolutely everything? Of course....but Im also realistic.

I understand that fw updates will be required. My complaints will be if they do not release fw to fix compatibility problems and add features (like advanced audio codecs).
post #41 of 664
I was playing POTC-AWE the other day and was having trouble understanding the carribean accents, so I turned on the english subtitles. The only problem is - the subtitles never appeared. The movie played fine and I had no other playback or navigation issues - just no subtitles.

I have screen messages set to off (to get rid of the "angle" messages on ratatouille). I was going to turn this back on and try again, but haven't had a chance yet.

Anybody else seeing this?
post #42 of 664
The 3:10 To Yuma Blu-ray on my Samsung has not gotten past the spinning gears screen that says "LOADING".
post #43 of 664
On some discs I occasionally see some very slight stuttering on movement that looks like a frame or is being "skipped" here and there. I step through the section and every frame plays, and it plays normally at slow speeds. At full speed, however, I get the slight frame-skip stutters. It is very repeatable in on certain shots, but it's definitely NOT there throughout the entire film -- it's only on certain shots.

One example of this is on Black Snake Moan BD. I can't remember the exact time, but without spoiling anything, it was near the end when a car pulls away from a house moving from left to right. The movement of the car jumps a couple times during the shot. I checked the disc (a rental) and it looks clean. I don't know if it's the disc in general, or just this specific disc, or a problem with the player, but (once again) it only does it here and there, it's repeatable, and it doesn't do it on every disc.

This is on a 1080i display.

Larry
post #44 of 664
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Originally Posted by Barbarian View Post

The 3:10 To Yuma Blu-ray on my Samsung has not gotten past the spinning gears screen that says "LOADING".

I wonder if this is related to web content and release dates. This disc isn't supposed to be released until 1/8, so perhaps the web content isn't ready yet. Or worse, perhaps the web content is telling the player that it shouldn't be playing the disc yet.
post #45 of 664
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Originally Posted by dkwong View Post

I wonder if this is related to web content and release dates. This disc isn't supposed to be released until 1/8, so perhaps the web content isn't ready yet. Or worse, perhaps the web content is telling the player that it shouldn't be playing the disc yet.


Wouldn't that stink, as it would mean that the studios would have a way, through the web, to stop their discs from playing if they ever decided to.
post #46 of 664
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Originally Posted by dkwong View Post

I wonder if this is related to web content and release dates. This disc isn't supposed to be released until 1/8, so perhaps the web content isn't ready yet. Or worse, perhaps the web content is telling the player that it shouldn't be playing the disc yet.

"Pan's Labyrinth" won't play either. There will be more...
post #47 of 664
I just tested the Bluray DVD movie Ratatouille which is reported by many (if not all) to have the "angle" icon pop up in the middle of the movie at various points and at the same time these icons occur the audio hiccups or stutters for a split second. Mine as reported earlier is doing the same thing. But someone (sorry I forgot the poster at this moment) mentioned to try and turn off "Display Messages" in the UP5K setup menus. I tried this. Turned off "Display Messages" and then played the Ratatouille movie. It did not pop up any "angle" icons during the movie. However I still heard the audio hiccup where I believe the icons would normally show. So apparently the Samsung BD-UP5000 is still processing the data stream that tells it there are multiple angles available on the scenes and apparently in processing this extra overhead, misses some audio data and thus we hear the audio hiccup. Even when the "Display Messages" is turned off and it does not display the "angle" icon, the audio still hiccups. So there is a bug there. Can anyone confirm if this "angle" icon and audio hiccups occurs with this BD DVD on other players such as the Panasnic BD30 or PS3? If it does occur on those other players, then we can safely say the bug is in the BD DVD authoring itself and not in the player. It would be interesting if someone can confirm this (sorry if this was already done, if it was I did no remember seeing it). Thank You!
post #48 of 664
Also, I just popped in my FF Return of Silver Surfer DVD without an internet connection to the UP5K and it still started playing fine. Last previous report of mine said I had no problem playing this disc and at that time I did have an ethernet internet connection. So this is just to let y'all know that it plays with or without the ethernet internet connected and dismisses the idea that maybe it needs to get some enablement from the internet to play.
post #49 of 664
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Originally Posted by dkwong View Post

I wonder if this is related to web content and release dates. This disc isn't supposed to be released until 1/8, so perhaps the web content isn't ready yet. Or worse, perhaps the web content is telling the player that it shouldn't be playing the disc yet.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), the disc plays fine on my Panasonic 30K and PS3.
post #50 of 664
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Originally Posted by jbernardis View Post

I was playing POTC-AWE the other day and was having trouble understanding the carribean accents, so I turned on the english subtitles. The only problem is - the subtitles never appeared. The movie played fine and I had no other playback or navigation issues - just no subtitles.

I have screen messages set to off (to get rid of the "angle" messages on ratatouille). I was going to turn this back on and try again, but haven't had a chance yet.

Anybody else seeing this?

just picked this title up today and was watching it this evening...same behavior here...select subtitles but no subtitles appear.

wonder if this is limited to this title, to bd, or to both bd and hd dvd
post #51 of 664
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Originally Posted by tenthplanet View Post

So far I'm not seeing a lot the problem discs, Bourne Ultimatum for instance and some of the other Universal combo discs that seem to be plaguing the Toshiba camp on the list. Is the Samsung better at playing them or will it take longer to find out.

Those discs didn't bother most Toshiba owners either.
post #52 of 664
Still no problems here. My current list of titles played is up to:

Matrix Trilogy (HD)
Pirates AWE (BD)
Rocky Balboa (BD)
The Fifth Element (BD)
Top Gun (HD)
post #53 of 664
what was the issue that was reporeted for Pirates AWE aside from the subtitles (which didn't work for me either)...

i know it was something about menus not being legible...on my 70 in. display the text was certainly *smaller* than i think it needed to be but it certainly wasn't miniscule so i just wanted to understand what the issue was...

tonight i'm going to pop it into my PS3 which is connected to a 50in and see what relative size the menu text is there...
post #54 of 664
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"Pan's Labyrinth" won't play either. There will be more...

I just tried it........tried some of the subtitle options, chapters, etc., seemed to work fine.

Not sure why some people are having more disk problems than others.

Regards,
John
post #55 of 664
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

"Pan's Labyrinth" won't play either. There will be more...

Correction - the hd-dvd wont play, but someone has confirmed that the BD does play.

I expect a firmware update soon to resolve this.
post #56 of 664
I got POTC:AWE tonight from netflix and threw it in real quick to see the menus - no problems displaying the skull in the menu and the text seemed to be fairly large (didn't strike me as small at all).

I also havent had problems with Bourne movies or anything else I have thrown at it. It even played Casino Royale after taking longer than normal to start.

I dont know the build date (dont feel like pulling it out to check), but the firmware is 71108.2_1114_0924_xaa. Audio and Video via HDMI through a Onkyo 805 to a Samsung HLS5679 LED DLP.

So far this unit has been better than the XA2 I had before.
post #57 of 664
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Originally Posted by mortifer View Post

I got POTC:AWE tonight from netflix and threw it in real quick to see the menus - no problems displaying the skull in the menu and the text seemed to be fairly large (didn't strike me as small at all).

I also havent had problems with Bourne movies or anything else I have thrown at it. It even played Casino Royale after taking longer than normal to start.

I dont know the build date (dont feel like pulling it out to check), but the firmware is 71108.2_1114_0924_xaa. Audio and Video via HDMI through a Onkyo 805 to a Samsung HLS5679 LED DLP.

So far this unit has been better than the XA2 I had before.

Put in some Pixar films and call me in the morning.
post #58 of 664
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

Put in some Pixar films and call me in the morning.

So are you gonna buy this if they release a firmware this month that solves the compatibilty issues? Toshiba did so soon after the XA2 was released (and continued to release them).

It had ALOT more problems with compatibilty than this unit (mainly on the combo discs and Paramount discs). AND the XA2 is considered a great machine after the firmware updates (by many reviewers). I remember Children of Men combo did not play in the XA2 at first....Also, The Untouchables would skip and stutter until a firmware update was released. That was just 2 examples that come to mind.

Give this product some time. Its not the first time these players have had compatibility issues.
post #59 of 664
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo View Post

So are you gonna buy this if they release a firmware this month that solves the compatibilty issues?

I do own this and besides its quirky nature compared to the A35 (which works perfectly in my system) and the Panny BD30 (which also works perfectly in my system), I choose not to have to deal with "what might come in future". It is just a choice of mine and a strong gut feeling. I had problems with a handful of discs the first day I owned it. Doesn't bode well for me.
post #60 of 664
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Originally Posted by audiomixer View Post

Put in some Pixar films and call me in the morning.

Unfortunately I don't have any to test.
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