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post #91 of 107
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Originally Posted by SpenceJT View Post

You've certainly got time to research it a bit.

Everything that I have read so far indicates that the 5500 will not include the REON HQV chipset, nor will it include multi-channel analog audio output. It is also stated that the 5500 will be BDJ profile 1.1 compliant, but appears to fall short of indicating that it is capable of upgrading to profile 2.0, which is something I would expect to be in the press release, were the unit 2.0 capable.

Of course time will tell, and things can change, but I'd have thought if the 5500 had these specific features, they would have been highlighted in the press release.

I've got until the end of the month to decide on the fate of my BD-UP5000.

There is also the LG BH200 dual format player which has the minimum hardware requirements for BD-LIVE (profile 2.0). Both the Samsung BD-UP5000 and BD-UP5500 are only PIP (profile 1.1) players with a firmware upgrade. Of course you would need to wait for June for the Samsung BD-UP5500 that will list for $599.

Quote for Samsung dual format players
The deck's ethernet connection will enable firmware upgrades and web-enabled features with compatible HD DVD discs. (Company reps tell us the deck will not be BD-Live compliant, meaning it will not support web-enabled features on certain Blu-ray discs.)
http://www.highdefdigest.com/tags/show/Dual-Format_Players
post #92 of 107
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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P24 View Post

There is also the LG BH200 dual format player which has the minimum hardware requirements for BD-LIVE (profile 2.0). Both the Samsung BD-UP5000 and BD-UP5500 are only PIP (profile 1.1) players with a firmware upgrade. Of course you would need to wait for June for the Samsung BD-UP5500 that will list for $599.

Quote for Samsung dual format players
The deck's ethernet connection will enable firmware upgrades and web-enabled features with compatible HD DVD discs. (Company reps tell us the deck will not be BD-Live compliant, meaning it will not support web-enabled features on certain Blu-ray discs.)
http://www.highdefdigest.com/tags/show/Dual-Format_Players



Dont the samsung and the LG use the same broadcomm reference boards? So what did LG include that samsung didnt to enable it be upgrade to BD Live?
post #93 of 107
More memory allegedly.
post #94 of 107
The LG also has an USB slot. In theory it's closer to BD live then the 5k can ever be. Profile 2.0 spec require 1GB onboard storage but I'm sure a USB drive would accomplish the same thing. What's odd about the 5k is the main board has USB 2.0 traces on it, but no hardware port.
post #95 of 107
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Originally Posted by ChicagoTC View Post

The LG also has an USB slot. In theory it's closer to BD live then the 5k can ever be. Profile 2.0 spec require 1GB onboard storage but I'm sure a USB drive would accomplish the same thing. What's odd about the 5k is the main board has USB 2.0 traces on it, but no hardware port.

Additional storage over local ethernet is not really any more complicated than USB. In theory, any player with an ethernet port could be pointed to a local network share (eg. a drive on your PC or NAS) for storage with just a minimal change in the interface allowing you to point it there.
post #96 of 107
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Most likely the 5500 will never make it to retail & Samsung will drop support for the 5000.

Samsung has done well to support BDP1000 so far and UP5000 will be supported until the issues have gone.
post #97 of 107
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Originally Posted by teo4348 View Post

and UP5000 will be supported until the issues have gone.

how can you know this .. seriously

they have said NOTHING
post #98 of 107
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Originally Posted by halfsane View Post

how can you know this .. seriously

they have said NOTHING

What gives me hope is that Samsung did release a FW update for the 1400 that allowed for DTS-MA bitstreaming. A little bit of hope for Broadcom since LG released a FW for their 100. And Justforcuriousity's interjections one of the hundred 5000 threads here.


I still have until the 27th, and the lack of anything from Samsung has me concerned as well.

They do not respond to e-mails, and their CSR's aren't helpful either.
post #99 of 107
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Originally Posted by tostitobandito View Post

Additional storage over local ethernet is not really any more complicated than USB. In theory, any player with an ethernet port could be pointed to a local network share (eg. a drive on your PC or NAS) for storage with just a minimal change in the interface allowing you to point it there.

Understood as I type this on a notebook backing everything up to a 2TB NAS, It's nice to watch my SD movies on my laptop will obsessing over the 5k
I'm a network/security engineer by trade and the Sammy was the 21st node on my "little" network

Anywho back on topic, the board and ethernet port make this very easy I just don't think it's going to happen. I do however think this is a MINOR issue. The majority of 5k and blu-ray 1.1 owners really don't care about fancy web content, myself included.
post #100 of 107
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Originally Posted by teo4348 View Post

Samsung has done well to support BDP1000 so far and UP5000 will be supported until the issues have gone.

Now that Blu-ray disc has won the format war and without a market for dual-format DVD players Samsung has no incentive to fix the BD-UP5000 & I doubt the 5500 will be carried by any of the big box retailers. Sorry.
post #101 of 107
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Originally Posted by teo4348 View Post

Samsung has done well to support BDP1000 so far and UP5000 will be supported until the issues have gone.

Do you work for Samsung or have a vested interest in their products?

They've given no real reason for optimism at this point. If it takes a year to fix playback issues for current BDs, I don't think anybody is going to be happy. I've had 2 discs in a row not play and there is no record of problems with those discs in their db according to the rep.

Also, about 4 reps have confirmed that full TrueHD and DTS-MA will NEVER happen on this unit because of hardware limitations. That was a real kick in the teeth!

**UPDATE: latest F/W available tomorrow. TrueHD and DTS-MA by May according to phone talk w/Samsung exec
post #102 of 107
Blu ray officially won?
post #103 of 107
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Blu ray officially won?

They have in fact not 'won'. However as Kosh used to say.

"The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."

In other words, it's all but over except for a few remaining nails.

Spence
post #104 of 107
I am inclined to believe now, that the silence of Samsung on this BD-UP5000 player is a sign that they are caught between a rock and a hard spot. In other words, if it were my company and my responsibility and I had a solution to a problem that customers were kicking at my door about, I would most definitely tell them immediately that a fix is coming for sure.
By not officially and immediately telling us that the promised firmware update fixes for the DTS-HD-MA and other audio decodings is still real and coming, makes me think that the probability that they (and Broadcom) goofed on their hardware design implementation is highly probable. The silence is just too ridiculous and I think they just don't know how to word it to customers that "... we are sorry, we goofed, there will not be any firmware fix for the promised audio updates...".
Really if I were the owner of the company, I'd have already released an official statement to calm and keep my customer's by now. Here silence is not golden! :-(
But being the way I am, I still am hoping they figure out how to fix the crippled player.
post #105 of 107
I better go downstairs and tell my HD DVD collection they lost...
post #106 of 107
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I better go downstairs and tell my HD DVD collection they lost...

I just told mine, they're all pissed off now.
post #107 of 107
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Blu ray officially won?

It's all but a done deal, think Blu-ray.
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