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post #11911 of 15216
7/25/11 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by iamfrancois View Post

hey all, I am looking for the best 2D and non-internet blue-ray player for cheap.

A refurb Insignia will run you under $60. It streams, but you don't have to use it.

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Originally Posted by mrconos View Post

...From my research, both units seem to be essentially equal in quality/features, with each being a little better in different areas but balancing out to around the same overall grade...

DLNA is much better on the LG, but the Panny adds DD5.1 and subtitles to netflix. The biggest difference is price. Selling the Avatar disc that you get with the Panny can bring $100 or so on Amazon.
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post #11912 of 15216
7/28/11 at 12:29am
are there any airplay capable blu-ray player?
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post #11913 of 15216
7/29/11 at 10:57am
So I narrowed down my decision to OPPO BDP-93 and Panasonic BDT-210. My main concern is picture/sound quality, I don't care to much about internet gadgets and extra inputs/outputs.

Will it be wort investing $300+ for OPPO or should I just get BDT-210?
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post #11914 of 15216
7/29/11 at 11:39am
I just received an Oppo BDP-93 about a week ago, and sent it back. I was replacing a 6 year old Samsung player, and thought there would be a drastic improvement. I'm using a 42" Samsung LCD display, and a good sound system using a Yamaha RX-V757 and Paradigm Atoms for surriund sound using a Dayton Subwoofer.
I read the whole Oppo manual and did the setup, and then started watching and listening. I had issues with the OPPO logo burning into my screen, or screen retention.I started watching Avatar and 15 minutes into the movie I could still see a ghost OPPO in the background. I tried a few different adjustments, but never could get rid of it. Granted after about 15 or 20 minutes it gradually went away, but its not something I need from a $499 unit.
Then I listened to a few CD's and what struck me the most was the lack of bass. I hooked up my old Samsung then the Oppo and the bass just wasn't there.
Well thats just one person's opinion, but you know what i just ordered from Amazon, thats right a Panasonic BDT-210 !
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post #11915 of 15216
7/29/11 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by Bsmooth View Post

I just received an Oppo BDP-93 about a week ago, and sent it back. I was replacing a 6 year old Samsung player, and thought there would be a drastic improvement. I'm using a 42" Samsung LCD display, and a good sound system using a Yamaha RX-V757 and Paradigm Atoms for surriund sound using a Dayton Subwoofer.
I read the whole Oppo manual and did the setup, and then started watching and listening. I had issues with the OPPO logo burning into my screen, or screen retention.I started watching Avatar and 15 minutes into the movie I could still see a ghost OPPO in the background. I tried a few different adjustments, but never could get rid of it. Granted after about 15 or 20 minutes it gradually went away, but its not something I need from a $499 unit.
Then I listened to a few CD's and what struck me the most was the lack of bass. I hooked up my old Samsung then the Oppo and the bass just wasn't there.
Well thats just one person's opinion, but you know what i just ordered from Amazon, thats right a Panasonic BDT-210 !

A source device cannot cause image retention or burn in. There are digital signals; it's not as if the player sends more high-voltage HDMI than another.

The OPPO has a moving screen saver, or you can have the video switched off entirely as an option. If you are seeing image retention on an LCD it is mostly likely because you have the display setting on "torch" mode. Always calibrate for best results.

-Bill
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post #11916 of 15216
7/29/11 at 11:58am
Say what you want I'm just telling you what my experience was. It was there I saw it, and it has been calibrated, and I'm not talking about any moving screensaver this was the Logo that comes on when the player is turned on.
I actually have turned down the display from what it was calibrated at, it was too bright for me, which is why that OPPO logo really surprised me.
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post #11917 of 15216
7/30/11 at 10:34am
I purchased a Samsung BD-P1590 last year and I have been terribly unhappy with it.

From playback issues, to slow loads, to lack of Netflix (on Canadian models), it just seems like a piece of garbage.

This player was "recommended" by my installer as I also have a Samsung TV (63" 550 model Plasma I think). He said something to the effect of Blu-Ray players and TV's work best together when they are from the same company.

So, here are my questions...

1. Is that true? Am I confined to looking for another Samsung, because reading the reviews here (by in large) they are not VERY positive as far as Samsung BD Players go.

2. If I do stick with a Sammy, any recommendations? I just read some threads on the BD-P 5700 and I was very underwhelmed.

3. A PS3 isn't really an option for two reasons... not really a gamer and I have all of my components hidden and connected via an RF base and an MX-980 remote, so if I got a PS3 and wanted to use it for gaming, I don't think it would work since it would be hidden under my staircase.

4. I do want something with Netflix, so please consider that when making your recommendations.

Thanks.
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post #11918 of 15216
7/30/11 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by mrconos View Post

I've narrowed my decision down to these two 3D capable Blu Ray players. I am going to hook it up to my LG 47LW5600. I am leaning towards getting the LG, to keep the same brand throughout my set up (I also have a LG sound bar that I got for free with the TV). From my research, both units seem to be essentially equal in quality/features, with each being a little better in different areas but balancing out to around the same overall grade. The only advantage I could think of for getting the Panny is to have the different internet suite/access, but it seems they have both similar functionality there, and if anything the LG might be better.

Any opinions for deciding between these 2 devices?

I'd like to hear recommendations at well of these to players. Which one loads a Blue-ray disc faster, as well as which one performs better with 3D? And I'm aware that the display performance of the TV comes into play with 3D.
I've been reading the forum area of the LG model not playing DVDs properly, which LG's been trying to fix with various firmware updates. I've also read issues with the Panny model having an issue or two as well, needing firmware updates.
So, which of these two players do people recommend? I can buy the LG for about $150 and the Panny for about $175. Although the price difference doesn't matter to me. It is the performance and peace of mind that does matter.
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post #11919 of 15216
7/31/11 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by Razal View Post
I purchased a Samsung BD-P1590 last year and I have been terribly unhappy with it.

From playback issues, to slow loads, to lack of Netflix (on Canadian models), it just seems like a piece of garbage.

This player was "recommended" by my installer as I also have a Samsung TV (63" 550 model Plasma I think). He said something to the effect of Blu-Ray players and TV's work best together when they are from the same company.

So, here are my questions...

1. Is that true? Am I confined to looking for another Samsung, because reading the reviews here (by in large) they are not VERY positive as far as Samsung BD Players go.

2. If I do stick with a Sammy, any recommendations? I just read some threads on the BD-P 5700 and I was very underwhelmed.

3. A PS3 isn't really an option for two reasons... not really a gamer and I have all of my components hidden and connected via an RF base and an MX-980 remote, so if I got a PS3 and wanted to use it for gaming, I don't think it would work since it would be hidden under my staircase.

4. I do want something with Netflix, so please consider that when making your recommendations.

Thanks.
Anyone?
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post #11920 of 15216
7/31/11 at 6:20pm
LG is what I recommend and use.

Is NF available in Canada?
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post #11921 of 15216
7/31/11 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post
LG is what I recommend and use.

Is NF available in Canada?
Any particular LG model? Will I encounter any issues between a LG BD Player and a Samsung TV?

Back when I purchased my BD-P1590 Netflix was not available in Canada in any capacity, hence it was not on the player, but now they offer a limited streaming version of what is offered in the US.

When I say limited, I'm guessing that in the US all new releases are available for streaming on Netflix and if that is the case, it is different than in Canada where the streaming titles are smaller and older.
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post #11922 of 15216
7/31/11 at 11:43pm
^^There are some new releases here available for streaming in the states, but certainly NOT all. I'd say more than 85% of streamed contents from Netflix are old.
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post #11923 of 15216
8/1/11 at 8:53am
I'm trying to find more information about streaming NetFlix on various players. I currently use a Tivo and a PS3, but want to replace the PS3. The Tivo has a painful NetFlix interface and the PS3 interface recently became horrible. So, before I buy a new Blu-Ray player, I'd like to get more information about how each device lets you select what to watch from NetFlix.

Basically I want is a UI that makes navigating your current list fast and easy, lets you select what to see by genre (and sub-genre), and shows you program information when you hover over a movie's title.

I (obviously) also want a player that reliable connects to NetFlix and also provides the highest possible quality PQ. I mention this, because my PS3 sometimes has a problem connecting, and my Tivo seems to provide lower PQ than the PS3 (for the same show streamed on the same night).

Can anyone help me with my quest. I've gone through dozens of youtube videos and not really gotten good information.
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post #11924 of 15216
8/1/11 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

I'm trying to find more information about streaming NetFlix on various players. I currently use a Tivo and a PS3, but want to replace the PS3. The Tivo has a painful NetFlix interface and the PS3 interface recently became horrible. So, before I buy a new Blu-Ray player, I'd like to get more information about how each device lets you select what to watch from NetFlix.

Basically I want is a UI that makes navigating your current list fast and easy, lets you select what to see by genre (and sub-genre), and shows you program information when you hover over a movie's title.

I (obviously) also want a player that reliable connects to NetFlix and also provides the highest possible quality PQ. I mention this, because my PS3 sometimes has a problem connecting, and my Tivo seems to provide lower PQ than the PS3 (for the same show streamed on the same night).

Can anyone help me with my quest. I've gone through dozens of youtube videos and not really gotten good information.

Just bought the Panasonic 310 and set it up yesterday. I like the Netflix UI better than my PS3's. Easy to navigate both my queue and recommended or new titles. I can't hover and get info like you want, but not too bad. Honestly I don't stream as much as I could, because I'm just not satisfied enough with video quality of Netflix streaming in my home theater.
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post #11925 of 15216
8/1/11 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by palpitatn View Post

Just bought the Panasonic 310 and set it up yesterday. I like the Netflix UI better than my PS3's. Easy to navigate both my queue and recommended or new titles. I can't hover and get info like you want, but not too bad. Honestly I don't stream as much as I could, because I'm just not satisfied enough with video quality of Netflix streaming in my home theater.

Good info about the Panasonic... and too bad about it not having a hover capability. I really like that feature.

I agree about the video quality, I'd usually rather watch a even DVD than most of the streaming stuff. But there is a fair amount of stuff that you can only get via streaming.
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post #11926 of 15216
8/1/11 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by Razal View Post

I purchased a Samsung BD-P1590 last year and I have been terribly unhappy with it.

From playback issues, to slow loads, to lack of Netflix (on Canadian models), it just seems like a piece of garbage.

This player was "recommended" by my installer as I also have a Samsung TV (63" 550 model Plasma I think). He said something to the effect of Blu-Ray players and TV's work best together when they are from the same company.

So, here are my questions...

1. Is that true? Am I confined to looking for another Samsung, because reading the reviews here (by in large) they are not VERY positive as far as Samsung BD Players go.

2. If I do stick with a Sammy, any recommendations? I just read some threads on the BD-P 5700 and I was very underwhelmed.

3. A PS3 isn't really an option for two reasons... not really a gamer and I have all of my components hidden and connected via an RF base and an MX-980 remote, so if I got a PS3 and wanted to use it for gaming, I don't think it would work since it would be hidden under my staircase.

4. I do want something with Netflix, so please consider that when making your recommendations.

1. No, it is not true. It makes no difference whether the brands match (unless you want to use the same remote for both devices).
2. I wouldn't recommend a Samsung.
4. I strongly recommend the Panasonic players (110, 210, or 310, depending on the features you want -- they have the same PQ).
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post #11927 of 15216
8/1/11 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by Bsmooth View Post
Then I listened to a few CD's and what struck me the most was the lack of bass. I hooked up my old Samsung then the Oppo and the bass just wasn't there.
Are you hooked up via analog or digital audio? If digital, all players should sound the same. If analog, I guess it just comes down to personal preference.
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post #11928 of 15216
8/1/11 at 3:10pm
Hello everyone

I'm trying to decide between Panasonic DMP-BT210 and Sony BDP-S580 player

Is one better than the other in terms of picture quality (both Blu-ray and DVD)?

And does one also have features that make one player preferable to the other?

Thank you
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post #11929 of 15216
8/1/11 at 3:27pm
Thanks Bill!
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post #11930 of 15216
8/1/11 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

I agree about the video quality, I'd usually rather watch a even DVD than most of the streaming stuff. But there is a fair amount of stuff that you can only get via streaming.

This statement was quite serendipitous for me and not something I even contemplated.

Are you saying that most Netlix movies are streamed at a video quality LOWER than a DVD???

That makes a HUGE impact on whether I want Netflix now. I just "assumed" it would be in 1080i (at the very least).
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post #11931 of 15216
8/1/11 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Razal View Post

This statement was quite serendipitous for me and not something I even contemplated.

Are you saying that most Netlix movies are streamed at a video quality LOWER than a DVD???

That makes a HUGE impact on whether I want Netflix now. I just "assumed" it would be in 1080i (at the very least).

There's a whole forum here dedicated to Netflix, etc. if you want to dig deeper. But the short answer is PS3 and Roku 2 stream Netflix HD at 1080p. Others stream HD at 720p. SD titles don't look quite as good as DVD, but HD titles look better than DVD. Many titles which aren't available on disc at all may look VHS quality simply because they came from VHS sources. So no one can make a blanket statement about Netflix PQ because it's all over the map and from all different sources. Some is fantastic, some is terrible.

All that being said, I plan to drop Netflix entirely after having it for several years because the recent price increase has made it a terrible value. The stream plan alone isn't worth $8, and the DVD plan alone isn't worth $8. The combined plans were worth $10, but that no longer exists.
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post #11932 of 15216
8/1/11 at 11:32pm
Sorry if this question is not appropriate for this thread. Is there a consensus for what is the best way to receive streaming content such as Netflix? Assuming a PS3 or Roku are a not an option, what gets you the best PQ: a standalone blu-ray player, stream directly to an internet-enabled TV, or use some other device such as a Wii (I'm guessing this is the worst option)?

More to the point of this thread, I'm trying to choose between a Panny 210 and a 110. Depending on the answer to the above question, I'm thinking I may not care about having wireless on my blu-ray player if I don't end up using it much for streaming.

For that matter, is content streamed wirelessly on the 210 just as good as the same content on the 110 through hardwire? I know wireless beats wired anyday in terms of convenience, but do you lose any stability or quality of the picture through wireless?

I know these are basic questions, but I'm a total blu-ray noob in the market for my first player.
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post #11933 of 15216
8/2/11 at 11:06am
I need your help!! I am torn between 2 blu-ray players. Panasonic DMP-BDT210 and the LG BD 670. I am mainly looking to stream local media, but need a blu-ray player as well so im not going the route of a roku or wd live. My main concern is which one is the most stable of the two in holding a solid signal. I cant stand when a movie buffers or pauses, which of these players give the best streaming quality? i would perfer to use the built in wireless, but if that is not possible for perfect streaming i can wire it. thank you for you time.
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post #11934 of 15216
8/2/11 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by laterally View Post

Sorry if this question is not appropriate for this thread. Is there a consensus for what is the best way to receive streaming content such as Netflix? Assuming a PS3 or Roku are a not an option, what gets you the best PQ: a standalone blu-ray player, stream directly to an internet-enabled TV, or use some other device such as a Wii (I'm guessing this is the worst option)?

More to the point of this thread, I'm trying to choose between a Panny 210 and a 110. Depending on the answer to the above question, I'm thinking I may not care about having wireless on my blu-ray player if I don't end up using it much for streaming.

For that matter, is content streamed wirelessly on the 210 just as good as the same content on the 110 through hardwire? I know wireless beats wired anyday in terms of convenience, but do you lose any stability or quality of the picture through wireless?

I know these are basic questions, but I'm a total blu-ray noob in the market for my first player.

I got a Panny 310 just because of the deal I was able to get. Otherwise I was set on the 210. My home theater room doesn't have a convenient way to connect Ethernet cable, so I wanted to get the 210 with the wireless capability. Even when I was setting up the Panny I got an alert saying to get the best reliable connection I should have a wireless N router. So far, no problems with wireless connection...
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post #11935 of 15216
8/2/11 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by bucs1985 View Post

I need your help!! I am torn between 2 blu-ray players. Panasonic DMP-BDT210 and the LG BD 670. I am mainly looking to stream local media, but need a blu-ray player as well so im not going the route of a roku or wd live. My main concern is which one is the most stable of the two in holding a solid signal. I cant stand when a movie buffers or pauses, which of these players give the best streaming quality? i would perfer to use the built in wireless, but if that is not possible for perfect streaming i can wire it. thank you for you time.

Don't know about the LG, but I really like my Panny 310. I would have bought the 210, but I got a better deal with 310. I have had ZERO wireless connection problems.
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post #11936 of 15216
8/2/11 at 5:23pm
bummer, it appears the 210 does not support avi files through the dlna. does the LG 670 support avi from local media?
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post #11937 of 15216
8/4/11 at 6:24am
Hey Gang. Does anyone know of any low-end (sub $200) blu-ray players that will send video via HDMI while simultaneously downmixing audio to 2-ch analog audio outputs? It seems that this used to be more common, but is becoming less so in current models. I just found out the LG BD630 can't do it, and am looking for an alternative.

Thanks!
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post #11938 of 15216
8/4/11 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by scissorfighter View Post

Hey Gang. Does anyone know of any low-end (sub $200) blu-ray players that will send video via HDMI while simultaneously downmixing audio to 2-ch analog audio outputs? It seems that this used to be more common, but is becoming less so in current models. I just found out the LG BD630 can't do it, and am looking for an alternative.

Thanks!

The Panny players (110, 210, and 310) do it if you don't output 24p video. Otherwise (if you want to use 24p), you can get around it using digital audio out and a digital-analog audio converter.
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post #11939 of 15216
8/5/11 at 4:26pm
I am struggling to make a decision whether to go with the Oppa 93 or 95. That is not the only decision. Some of these players have this Multi region feature.

I am trying to decide which one fits my needs the most. Price is not the concern even though what idiot would want to pay more if he did not need too!

Here is my need for this player:

1) Netflix- alot of Netflix
2) Blue Rays
3) Some DVDs
4) Might play some music but not much


I will show my ignorance here but as far as Multi Region is concerned, I cannot possibly see where I would need that. Can you even by it now without that or is it a part of the player now.

Based off of my needs, could you offer feedback on the way to go?? I will be using the Onkyo 5508 pre/pro on a JVC RS60U projector with B$W 800 speakers and SVS PB Ultra 13 sub. I want this to sound good and look awesome.

Appreciate the guidance for my particular needs!!!
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post #11940 of 15216
8/5/11 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by daxhughes View Post

I am struggling to make a decision whether to go with the Oppa 93 or 95.

In Maine we call it Oppah.

Bill
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