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post #12091 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post
Wow that must be an expensive disk. If you mean the Panasonic DMP-BD75, I see it for only $90 at TigerDirect, but I don't see anything about any Avatar disk. Do you have to get it from certain places for that? I'll check out the neg reviews on it.

I see the BDT110 with the Avatar rebate at Amazon, but they don't have the disk with the BD75.

Thanks guys, I'll look into these.
Avatar is not offered with the BD75 because it is not a 3D capable player. It is a basic, Blu-ray and DVD player with streaning options. If you are looking for a simple player that is reliable, it's a great player.

S~
post #12092 of 15133
Which 1 of these 2 should I get Sony BDP-S780 or Panny BPT 310.
I am not interested in streaming, only the best Blu-Ray/3D quality.
I only need the one HDMI port.
I now have the Sony 5000ES and love the video.
The S780 claims 16 bit video, Panny???
The Pany has the 3D avatar disc coupon.
Is the Sony video processor better?
post #12093 of 15133
The only reason to get a 310 is for the second HDMI port. Your choice should be between the sony and the 210.
post #12094 of 15133
I'm still not sure what blu-ray player to pair with the Sony HX929 tv. Of the choices below, which would you choose and why? (streaming is not important to me as the tv has wifi built in. I"m primarily concerned with picture and video quality).

Sony S580
Sony S770
Sony S780
post #12095 of 15133
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

The only reason to get a 310 is for the second HDMI port. Your choice should be between the sony and the 210.

I listed my only choices, if the 210 was offered I would have listed it.
post #12096 of 15133
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Avatar is not offered with the BD75 because it is not a 3D capable player. It is a basic, Blu-ray and DVD player with streaning options. If you are looking for a simple player that is reliable, it's a great player.

S~

Makes sense, thanks.
post #12097 of 15133
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Correct, no disk with the 75. And the Avatar disc is indeed expensive because Panasonic has an exclusive deal, so you can't buy it anywhere. Prices have been dropping, but I think you can still get around $100 on ebay and even more on amazon. Early on, some were selling for over $120, which is more than I paid for my player.

Looks like one may be outta-luck on selling the disk for a decent price. Yesterday when I checked there were two pages of them for sale, and just glancing at the 1st page I saw prices all over the place from as low as $34 up to $188. (I don't understand why anyone would try and sell one there for $188 when some are selling there for $34????) But even if I could sell one for 40 that's still 40-off the cost of the player. But it appears they may not be much in demand now.


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.....even more on amazon.

Evidently the folks at Amazon aren't checking Ebay. Good for the sellers.
post #12098 of 15133
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Originally Posted by tigerhonaker View Post

No it is not the Price on a unit.
It is the Fact that un-like the older DVD units that one could buy and simply watch.
The New Blu-Ray units are not like that.
They need to be hooked up to your computer to up-load the up-dates as they come out.
And it seems that is just the way they are constantly changing so the up-dates are a Necessity.
So, I kept my old DVD Player and still have not gone with the Blu-Ray unit.

Honestly I think they are a Pain in the @ss.

Terry

They, like many other technologies, still sound like they're not ready for prime-time. It should depend on the player as to whether or not they'd have to be hooked up to the net for FW updates, I'm sure some can update via USB or card slot. But you shouldn't need to do it more than once, (right?), unless some really flaky disk comes out that requires an update.
post #12099 of 15133
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Insignia is a fine low-cost player. Panasonic BD75 is probably a better upscaler though and less expensive than the recommended 110 if you don't want to deal with selling the avatar disc. I think my 110 cost me a net of around $15 after selling the disc.

Better upscaler than the BDT110, and yet it's cheaper?? Is the (non-3D of course) PQ on them the same?
post #12100 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

They, like many other technologies, still sound like they're not ready for prime-time. It should depend on the player as to whether or not they'd have to be hooked up to the net for FW updates, I'm sure some can update via USB or card slot. But you shouldn't need to do it more than once, (right?), unless some really flaky disk comes out that requires an update.

No, it's a continual process. BR disc authoring is still fluid and the studios keep inventing features, often just stupid menu tricks, but still a player needs updating if it is to handle them.

-Bill
post #12101 of 15133
FYI, in researching these I see a Panasonic DMP-BD60K seems to be really nice, and rather expensive, but TigerDirect has then in stores only* for only $99.96. I see some places (that still have them) are selling them for up to $300. So that's cheap. Sucks that there are no more stores in LA.

*Stores:
Florida
- Aventura, FL Limited Stock
- Ft. Lauderdale, FL In Stock
- North Jacksonville, FL Limited Stock
- West Kendall, FL Limited Stock
Illinois
- Orland Park, IL Limited Stock
North Carolina
- Durham, NC Limited Stock
Texas
- Arlington, TX Limited Stock
post #12102 of 15133
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Insignia is a fine low-cost player. Panasonic BD75 is probably a better upscaler though and less expensive than the recommended 110 if you don't want to deal with selling the avatar disc. I think my 110 cost me a net of around $15 after selling the disc.

Better upscaler than the BDT110, and yet it's cheaper?? Is the (non-3D of course) PQ on them the same?

To add: Yeah I'm seeing some neg's on it regarding the DVD up-conversion. Why would it be worse than the cheaper BD75? Is there a way its up-converting can be turned off?
post #12103 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

I've had zero issue on Blu Ray or DVD playback with my Panasonic BDT110. It's not $87, but can be found for about $110 and comes with a free Avatar 3D disc (via rebate). You can sell that disc on ebay and get way below your desired $87 price point.

BTW, where did you see it for $110? Cheapest I've found so far is (with the Avatar rebate) $112.00 at OneCall minus MrRebates/FatWallet 2%.
post #12104 of 15133
I'm sure everyone will find this a stupid question, but keep in mind I personally don't even use a DVD player. The other day I was wondering what happens when you stop a disk or turn the player off before a disk is completed, and you need to go back where you left off on the disk? I'm seeing complaints on the BDT110 that it "won't remember the disk place". Is that correct? Will any remember it?
post #12105 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

Better upscaler than the BDT110, and yet it's cheaper?? Is the (non-3D of course) PQ on them the same?

You misread that, he meant better than the insigna.
post #12106 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

FYI, in researching these I see a Panasonic DMP-BD60K seems to be really nice, and rather expensive, but TigerDirect has then in stores only* for only $99.96. I see some places (that still have them) are selling them for up to $300. So that's cheap. Sucks that there are no more stores in LA.

FYI, the 60 is two generations ago. The 75 and x10's have better video processing.
post #12107 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

I'm sure everyone will find this a stupid question, but keep in mind I personally don't even use a DVD player. The other day I was wondering what happens when you stop a disk or turn the player off before a disk is completed, and you need to go back where you left off on the disk? I'm seeing complaints on the BDT110 that it "won't remember the disk place". Is that correct? Will any remember it?

Remembering resume points is fairly common, but check with the specific model threads or online docs to be sure.

In general: resume points for DVD and Blu-ray discs without java can be saved. Blu-ray discs with java do not have player-based resume points, but many are including on-disc programming to do something similar.

-Bill
post #12108 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

I'm sure everyone will find this a stupid question, but keep in mind I personally don't even use a DVD player. The other day I was wondering what happens when you stop a disk or turn the player off before a disk is completed, and you need to go back where you left off on the disk? I'm seeing complaints on the BDT110 that it "won't remember the disk place". Is that correct? Will any remember it?

No, for dvd's players are differentiated by how many dvd's they remember or if the remember the play position if ejected from the player. Most of the complaints I have seen are operator error. Blu-ray disc are dependant upon how the disc was authored.
post #12109 of 15133
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

You misread that, he meant better than the insigna.

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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

FYI, the 60 is two generations ago. The 75 and x10's have better video processing.

Thanks guys.
post #12110 of 15133
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Remembering resume points is fairly common, but check with the specific model threads or online docs to be sure.

In general: resume points for DVD and Blu-ray discs without java can be saved. Blu-ray discs with java do not have player-based resume points, but many are including on-disc programming to do something similar.

-Bill

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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

No, for dvd's players are differentiated by how many dvd's they remember or if the remember the play position if ejected from the player. Most of the complaints I have seen are operator error. Blu-ray disc are dependant upon how the disc was authored.

Thanks for the info. This is all new news to me. What I'm looking at right now is the BDT110, and in a search for this issue I found its thread at this forum and the info is confusing; some are saying it should, some are saying it's not remembering. So is the consensus that it depends on the disk?

I assume you can make a note of the time or 'counter' position on the player's display and resume to that point, "goto" that position when re-inserted?
post #12111 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

Thanks for the info. This is all new news to me. What I'm looking at right now is the BDT110, and in a search for this issue I found its thread at this forum and the info is confusing; some are saying it should, some are saying it's not remembering. So is the consensus that it depends on the disk?

I assume you can make a note of the time or 'counter' position on the player's display and resume to that point, "goto" that position when re-inserted?

For DVD's, as long as you don't take the disc out of the drawer, it will resume where you left off. For BD's, it depends on how the disc is authored.

S~
post #12112 of 15133
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

For DVD's, as long as you don't take the disc out of the drawer, it will resume where you left off. For BD's, it depends on how the disc is authored.

S~

Ok thank you.
post #12113 of 15133
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post


For DVD's, as long as you don't take the disc out of the drawer, it will resume where you left off. For BD's, it depends on how the disc is authored.

S~

Again, for DVD's that depends on the player. Your Oppo will remeber too many to count, my Panny will forget if the tray is opened.
post #12114 of 15133
I am looking for a 3d Blu-ray player and I am torn between Samsung BD-D6500, Panasonic DMP-BDT310 & LG BX580C10. Can anyone share opinions as to which I should be pick? I will be pairing it with a Samsung UN55D7000 LED 3DTV.

Thanks so much for your help!
post #12115 of 15133
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

Again, for DVD's that depends on the player. Your Oppo will remeber too many to count, my Panny will forget if the tray is opened.

My comment was to clint for how the x10 works with DVDs. As I said, as long as you leave it in the drawer it will resume.

S~
post #12116 of 15133
We got an LG BD530 for last Christmas from my fiancee's parents which was a nice gift.

I've just moved to the US from the UK, so all my DVDs are region 2 (I only bought region-free BRs) and I don't think that the LG will play them - I have a vague recollection that LGs can't be unlocked?

Someone warned that the Oppo can take longer to switch as it talks to the display every time - anyone see this?
post #12117 of 15133
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Originally Posted by rallybug View Post

Someone warned that the Oppo can take longer to switch as it talks to the display every time - anyone see this?

I have not heard that. Every HDMI display chain "talks every time". Some combination of devices display different handshaking behavior, which can be more or less irritating.

-Bill
post #12118 of 15133
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I have not heard that. Every HDMI display chain "talks every time". Some combination of devices display different handshaking behavior, which can be more or less irritating.

-Bill

I think it's fair to say that since the OPPO has two chips in its output stage, and many lesser players have only one, that that added output step can mean the player requires more extensive handshaking than simpler inferior designs.

Or at least that has been my experience.

But it's a MINOR issue in my use -- since what matters most to me are things like optimum quality over a variety of sources, good playback from network and internet sources, SACD and DVD-A compatibility, and a new found love of the ISO support via USB connected drives.
post #12119 of 15133
Besides the Oppo BD players, is anyone aware of any others that have "source direct" for pairing with a video processor? I read on another forum that the newer Sony and Pioneer models may include this feature, but I haven't been able to confirm that.
post #12120 of 15133
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Originally Posted by slb View Post

Besides the Oppo BD players, is anyone aware of any others that have "source direct" for pairing with a video processor? I read on another forum that the newer Sony and Pioneer models may include this feature, but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Winston has a Source Direct column in this table: http://winstonsreviews.com/?page_id=69

-Bill
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