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post #13651 of 16477
My Pioneer receiver does have HDMI. Can I use the Pioneer BDP-140 and then get a splitter to split the HDMI signal? What do you think is the best approach to getting the best of both with sound and picture. I really like my receiver that has all of the good audio features and is only like 4 years old and cost a pretty penny It is the Pio Elite vsx92.
post #13652 of 16477
Guys, help me pick a 3D player. I already ordered the whole new PJ setup (buillding a brand new HT) BB has BR players sale, they have these models:

LG BP620
Sony BDPS590
Samsung BD-E5900ZA
Panasonic DMP-BDT220
Panasonic DMP-BDT320
Onkyo BD-SP309

I don't want to pay more than $150, so these are the choices. Price difference between BDP220 and 320 is like 15 bucks, but I can't make out from specs it 320 has anything I really need worth even that little.

I need:
- just a BR player with excellent PQ
- problem-free playback of self-burned DOUBLE LAYER BD-R... for full-res 3D movies

That's it. Don't need any gimmicks, don't need streaming or other online bs, although updating firmware wirelessly is a good idea. I'm just gonna use it with BR strictly. But that's it.
post #13653 of 16477
Sony or Panasonic.

S~
post #13654 of 16477
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Originally Posted by lance7 View Post

My Pioneer receiver does have HDMI. Can I use the Pioneer BDP-140 and then get a splitter to split the HDMI signal? What do you think is the best approach to getting the best of both with sound and picture. I really like my receiver that has all of the good audio features and is only like 4 years old and cost a pretty penny It is the Pio Elite vsx92.
I'm sure someone has gotten it to work. Might be a few threads in the 3D forums. I would just spend the extra that you would get a splitter for and just go with a BD player with two HDMI outs.

S~
post #13655 of 16477
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Originally Posted by lance7 View Post

My Pioneer receiver does have HDMI. Can I use the Pioneer BDP-140 and then get a splitter to split the HDMI signal? What do you think is the best approach to getting the best of both with sound and picture. I really like my receiver that has all of the good audio features and is only like 4 years old and cost a pretty penny It is the Pio Elite vsx92.

No, a splitter will not work. If your receiver is not 3D compatible, you need a BluRay player with dual HDMI outs, such as the Panny 310 (last year's) or 500 (this year's), Sony 790, or Oppo 93.
post #13656 of 16477
I've done my research, and cannot figure this one out.

I am wanting a blu-ray player that has a built in web browser that can access adobe flash live streaming sites to play the video, be able to play content from my PLAYON server, be able to play h.264,mpeg1, mpeg2, and mpeg4 video files from my server, and play mp3 and flac audio files from my server.

I currently have a PS3 (web interface is terrible, and only works on a few streaming sites, and offers no way I know of to move the cursor to the "full screen" button on the video player).

I just returned a Samsung 5900, as it crashed trying to stream PLAYON files, and it had the slowest and absolute WORST web interface I have ever seen.

Am I stuck with the PS3, and using a laptop plugged into the big screen or is there a BD player out there I have missed?
post #13657 of 16477
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Originally Posted by cR4p View Post

I was wondering what were the benefit(s) in getting a more expensive bluray compared to an entry level player like a PS3 for an example, I understand that some of the more expansive BD player offer 7.1 output with high quality DAC’s but in a situation where the audio will be bitstreamed to the receiver is there any impact on the quality of the video on 1080p material.
I have an a Lumagen Radiance scaler so better scaling is not really a driver since I will send everything in native resolution and let the radiance do the scaling if needed, so my question is when comparing bluray 1080p video, is there any noticeable difference between a cheap & expensive player.
My current setup is PS3-->Lumagen Radiance-->Sony VW-1000-->Screen Innovation Black Diamond Zero Edge 144’
If there’s any difference what are the current popular options?
Thanks

You have a very good projector. The differences that are present between bluray players are minimized with the smaller displays, but become more evident when using larger displays, especially projectors. I have an Oppo BDP-83 (for two years now), and use it on a comparatively small display (47"). Bluray content is displayed very well, DVD upscaling is stellar with it.

One of the discrepancies that was found was the improper mapping of the color palette on other bluray players, as opposed to the Oppo, which does it correctly. It is the squashing of the top and bottom colors of the color range for the top and bottom 5 or so values. The question is whether the improvement in true color display is worth it for you to spend $500 for. Not sure what other differences there may be, but my thoughts are that when possible, Oppo seems to take the right path.

There are many other benefits that I've found, like being able to use DLNA at least a year ago on a player that was already superseded by the BDP-93. The continual updates over the internet avoided having issues with not being able to play titles (for me). Oppo's service is outstanding, both in having real humans available at all hours for contact and the very fast repair service. The new development and strong support continue for my soon to be ancient player, despite the '93 being out a year or so ago.

If this is an HT only setup, the non-HT audio options may not appeal to you, but for me, the audio options of SACD, DVD-A, FLAC, etc, as well as being able to use a hard drive for media have been great. Most of those functions were also added after the sale, so I have felt throughout that I was not only buying a player with the features then, but a player that would grow in time because the company was committed to it.

There are many good bluray players, but in my view one company makes great players, and that is Oppo. The new Sony and Panasonic players are impressive, but they are where Oppo was a year ago and will be once again behind when the new players from Oppo come out. In my opinion, of course, but leavened with direct experience with Oppo. In your case, with the components you've chosen and paid for, an Oppo seems to fit.
post #13658 of 16477

Help with player selection

I am having quite the time wading through the numerous threads on players so I thought I would list my requirements and see what you all think.

I don't need WiFi, I will have network access in my rack.

$300 or less.

I have a Pioneer Elite 49txi for decoding and guess I only would only need optical out , so the Burr-Brown decoders in the Pioneer can do their thing.

1 HDMI out heading to a DVDO iScan Duo and then to a JVC RS45 projector

I like the Oppo 93 specs and reviews..but the $500 seems overkill. We will be watching movies 99% of the time. I don't need NetFlix (hate it anyway) and such. I guess being able to play VOBs off a server would be nice but I dont and wont have a media server at first.

Thanks for the help/suggestions.
post #13659 of 16477
The "obvious" current generation choices in your price range are the Sony BDP-S790 and the Panasonic DMP-BDT500. Check their manuals (both are available for downloading) to see which has more of the features you want.
post #13660 of 16477
Hello all,

I'm trying to decide between these two players for stereo only audio playback. I understand the differences between the two in terms of DAC quality. The 93 did really well in the audioholics bench test, but not quite as good as the 95 (which was exemplary). I guess I'm wondering if I'd be able to tell the difference between the two on my current setup, which is an hk3490 receiver and a set of Polk Monitor 70's. I intend to use the analog stage on the player, not send data via HDMI (which my receiver does not support).
post #13661 of 16477
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Originally Posted by Snackcakes View Post

Hello all,

I'm trying to decide between these two players for stereo only audio playback. I understand the differences between the two in terms of DAC quality. The 93 did really well in the audioholics bench test, but not quite as good as the 95 (which was exemplary). I guess I'm wondering if I'd be able to tell the difference between the two on my current setup, which is an hk3490 receiver and a set of Polk Monitor 70's. I intend to use the analog stage on the player, not send data via HDMI (which my receiver does not support).

Welcome to AVSForum.

OPPO, right? You might ask in the BDP-95 thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1311806/official-oppo-bdp-95-owners-thread. Plenty of people there have used both.

-Bill
post #13662 of 16477
I am looking around for a blu-ray player to go with my recently purchased Panasonic TC-P60GT50. I see some of Panasonic players are highly rated.

Is there any advantage to buying the same brand blu-ray player as your TV, or is it the opposite, that mixed components might provide more flexible functionality?

I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
post #13663 of 16477
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Originally Posted by la2051 View Post

I am looking around for a blu-ray player to go with my recently purchased Panasonic TC-P60GT50. I see some of Panasonic players are highly rated.
Is there any advantage to buying the same brand blu-ray player as your TV, or is it the opposite, that mixed components might provide more flexible functionality?
I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Not really an advantage, unless you're one of those that likes all of their components to match. With that said, you won't go wrong with either the Panasonic or Sony players to go with your new plamsa. I have both.

S~
post #13664 of 16477
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Originally Posted by la2051 View Post

I am looking around for a blu-ray player to go with my recently purchased Panasonic TC-P60GT50. I see some of Panasonic players are highly rated.
Is there any advantage to buying the same brand blu-ray player as your TV, or is it the opposite, that mixed components might provide more flexible functionality?
I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Panny blu ray remotes only work with panny tv's. Sony BR remotes work with most major brands of TV's. So, if you switch TV's or use the BR player with a non-panny brand, the limited tv functions won't work anymore.

Panasonic players are also very limited in media support. No SACD support, and I've only gotten my panny to play back mp4's, no other kind of video file.

However, panny players are fast loading and dvd upconversion looks excellent. I currently own both a sony and panny player, so I really like both, but each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.
post #13665 of 16477
If all of your components, TV, AVR, and BD player , support HDMI control then all the components can be controlled by any remote. I have a Panasonic TC-50GT30 with Viera Link, a Sony 790, and a Pio VSX-1021. With HDMI enabled, the Pio powers up when the TV is powered on. When I power up the Sony BD player, the TV and AVR power on and switch to the correct input. I can use the Pio remote and Panny remote to control the basic BD player functions, FF,RWD, PAUSE, SKIP, etc.

So, with HDMI control on all your components the Panny's inability to be programmed for a non-Panny Component isn't that critical. Personally, I'd go with this years Sony. I haven't noticed any difference in either BD or DVD playback plus full SACD DSD over HDMI is really sweet. I also had problems with a "weak" HDMI board on my Panny 210 that made activating 3D a PITA. No problems with this years Sony.
post #13666 of 16477
Does anyone know if the Costco model Samsung BD-EM57C can do 1080P from netflix???
post #13667 of 16477
Replacement for Samsung C5500

I, and a friend, have the C6500 and don't have any issues with it. But, unfortunately my daughter has issues with her C5500. It has issues playing files from the DLNA serve that her husband set up. It has issues playing BD and DVD media, but doesn't have issues playing files from the USB port.

They are looking at getting a replacement for the player.

I just need suggestions for brands that support DLNA, USB and media playback of MP4 and MKV files (with DTS and AC3 audio). More so MKV files. I'll then go looking thru the various player threads and manufacturer sites.

Based upon an above posting, Panasonic is out of the running as they don't support the range of media files.

Oh, and support for internet playback (Netflix, etc) not required. If needed, the TV can do that.

Thanks.
post #13668 of 16477
Your daughter might do better to investigate whether their DLNA server can be updated or adjusted to work better with their Samsung C5500. They're likely to be disappointed searching for the Holy Grail of the perfect Blu-Ray player that works with any old DLNA server and file format. The chances of getting things working are likely better if you stick with a Blu-Ray player that's a known quantity to developers and update the DLNA server software version. Many DLNA servers have parameters that can be adjusted to adapt to different clients, including the Samsung C series. Even if the DLNA server is embedded in a NAS, it's probably a standard software product like Twonky that can be updated to the latest version for a fee that's less than the cost of a new Blu-Ray player. As for Blu-Ray and DVD disc compatibility, the C5500 should be identical to your C6500 as long as you both have the same firmware version.
post #13669 of 16477
I need your expert opinion in help me decide a DVD/Blu ray player please. I don't care about internet apps etc. I need a really good player that upconverts standard DVD's to 1080p and good quality Blu ray player. The USB should be able too play AVI/MP4/M4V/MKV etc. Don't care for region free or not. Price range lower than $250 or so.
post #13670 of 16477
I am in need of a new BR player that supports 3D playback and was looking here for suggestions. I really would prefer than I not pay over $300. Any recommendations would be awesome.
post #13671 of 16477
The Sony BDP-S590 and Panasonic DMP-BDT220 are well regarded here. They're about $150 or less.
post #13672 of 16477
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Originally Posted by amesdp View Post

Your daughter might do better to investigate whether their DLNA server can be updated or adjusted to work better with their Samsung C5500.

While there indeed might be issues with the DLNA server, that isn't the main issue. Unfortunately I didn't list all of the problems. It tends to hang, A LOT. They are constantly pulling the power cord to reset it. Discs won't load (BD or DVD). Discs will hang while playing and they can't eject a hung disc. Powering down won't clear the hang, unless the AC is removed from the unit.

Hence the reason for replacing the player.
post #13673 of 16477
So if I need to decide between The Sony BDP-S590 and Panasonic DMP-BDT220. Which one would give a better picture quality and closer to Oppo BDP-93?
post #13674 of 16477
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Originally Posted by parry View Post

So if I need to decide between The Sony BDP-S590 and Panasonic DMP-BDT220. Which one would give a better picture quality and closer to Oppo BDP-93?

My preference is for the Panasonic for BD/DVD PQ, and Sony for streaming quality and abilities. I have the Panasonic 320 and Sony 790.

S~
post #13675 of 16477
I own both the sony 590 and panny 220. BR PQ is the same on both units, but DVD's tend to look quite a bit better on the panny. The panny dvd upconversion looks sharper but also generates more artifacts. I have no information on oppo dvd upconversion in comparison to a 2012 sony or panasonic.

There have been anecdotal reports of oppo BR PQ being superior if only marginally, but I don't find them credible. I believe Oppo uses a marvell processor in some models, and it's processing can't be defeated/turned off completely even in "direct" mode, so that could be responsible for the differences in PQ. Having said that, it's impossible for oppo or any company, for that matter, to produce an image with additional pixels. Any difference is due either to 'sweetening' (edge enhancement, contrast boost, etc) or a defect with the player (see sony rgb issues).
post #13676 of 16477
Thanks for the quick feedback guys. It seems like the concensus is for Panny ..even in the Oppo thread..people are talking about it..

Do you know what video formats can Panny play? like divx/avi/mp4 etc?
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

My preference is for the Panasonic for BD/DVD PQ, and Sony for streaming quality and abilities. I have the Panasonic 320 and Sony 790.
S~

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Originally Posted by johncourt View Post

I own both the sony 590 and panny 220. BR PQ is the same on both units, but DVD's tend to look quite a bit better on the panny. The panny dvd upconversion looks sharper but also generates more artifacts. I have no information on oppo dvd upconversion in comparison to a 2012 sony or panasonic.
There have been anecdotal reports of oppo BR PQ being superior if only marginally, but I don't find them credible. I believe Oppo uses a marvell processor in some models, and it's processing can't be defeated/turned off completely even in "direct" mode, so that could be responsible for the differences in PQ. Having said that, it's impossible for oppo or any company, for that matter, to produce an image with additional pixels. Any difference is due either to 'sweetening' (edge enhancement, contrast boost, etc) or a defect with the player (see sony rgb issues).
post #13677 of 16477
Since you are in Canada it does support divx for sure.

S~
post #13678 of 16477
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Since you are in Canada it does support divx for sure.
S~

But I was gonna buy the US version.. any difference there?
post #13679 of 16477
US version does not support divx or avi. That's why I said I prefer the Sony for streaming whether apps or dlna.

S~
post #13680 of 16477

Dual Band Blu-ray Player?

Hello,

I am hoping someone can recommend to me a good dual band WiFi capable Blu-ray player. I recently purchased a new dual band wireless router thinking all 802.11n devices would pick up the higher 5Ghz frequency only to learn that none of the devices in my house are capable mad.gif . I currently use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player in my HT setup and think now is the perfect opportunity to purchase a dedicated blu-ray play capable of dual band wireless. I do a LOT of streaming from Netflix and Hulu Plus from the PS3 as well. Needless to say, I am trying to get all devices updated to 802.11n and I am trying to find a good Blu-ray player that will support dual band frequencies so that way I can double my network speeds. Netflix and Hulu plus is a must on the device as well due to the fact that I cut cable out and only stream and watch blu-rays.

The reason I am also asking for help is because when I perform a Google search I do find links to blu-ray players, but when you go to the site I never see anything listed in the details that specifically states that the player is capable of dual band WiFi, just that it has imbedded WiFi.

Thanks in advance for recommendations.
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