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Originally Posted by jontyl View Post

Awesome, thanks for the extra info, mdavej. I'll probably order one of the Sony 390s from Amazon today.
We have 2 of the older version of that player.(Model S370) Have been quite pleased. Mainly do streaming, but do play 3 or 4 Netflix discs a month.
post #14012 of 16474
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Originally Posted by flaquito View Post

I could also use some advice on taking the plunge into the BluRay world. However, it seems that my priorities are a bit different from most. I'm not terribly interested in streaming, because I use a Roku, although if the player comes with Amazon VOD, I could repurpose the Roku.
Here's what I'm looking for:
- reliability and build quality
- low cost
- 3D for future-proofing would be nice.
Here's my current setup:
- Samsung 720p LCD TV (will eventually be replaced, probably with another Samsung, but not for a while)
- Onkyo HT-RC360 (so high-quality upconverting on the BluRay player isn't necessarily a priority)
Ideally, I'm looking at the sub-$100 range, but I want to get the most value out of what I spend. Any suggestions? Any other information I should provide?

I would look at Panasonic DMP-BDT 220 and Sony BDP-S590. You could also go down to Sony BDP-S390 if you want to skip the 3D support. These are not sub $100 players new, but if you want reliability and 3D I think you need to pay $100 or more. Watch for sales, I got the Costco equivalent of the BDP-S590 on sale for $100 several weeks back.

I have not used the Panasonic myself, but one nice feature I have heard about is a zoom function for cropping non-anamorphic DVDs to 16:9. I had that on some of my older Panasonic DVD recorders and miss not having it on my current Blu-ray players. Might have gone for the Panasonic myself except that DLNA support was important to me and Panasonic is not known for good DLNA.
post #14013 of 16474
My wonderful Phillips DVP-5982 has just died on me. I've tried getting a cleaner, and still no luck. I think it's permanently dead. As pretty much all noteworthy special features have moved to Blu-Ray, I've been dragging my feet about the changeover, but now I'm apparently going to have no choice but to switch over.

Unfortunately, there's a rather significant stumbling block in the form of region-coding. Whereas my wonderful little Phillips player could be unlocked with a few keystrokes, evidently the manufacturers of Blu-Ray caught onto this and have made it considerably more difficult to unlock BR players. Apparently, it requires some actual physical modding which generally has to be done by a third party. I'd rather do it myself, but apparently that is quite difficult. Thinking of looking at eBay, but there're so many choices, I don't know where to start! There is, of course, the famed Oppo BDP-93, but it's a $500 player with $150+ mod!

A bit of an explanation, this is unbelivably long-winded, so if anyone gets to the end of this post, they deserve a medal. I mean, my initial thought was to buy a mid-range player (I work at Meijer and can get a 10% discount, but we mostly have mid-range stuff at best, sadly.), but I then discovered that unlike DVD, BR can't simply be hacked with the remote. Since I still have a CRT TV with a coax connector, so it seems like a bit of overkill, but but every special feature worth a damn seems to have moved to BR. I've thought about buying something pretty good to prepare for the future, but apparently region-free BR is pricey. Then there's the world now. I'd like to be able to do stuff like stream YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, etc. but that's not essential, plus I have my computer for it, or if need be, I can buy a Roku box or something.

I'd have to imagine that pretty much all BR players come with HDMI hookups and will upscale DVDs and have 1080p at this point. I have no interest in 3-D (though I have a sinking feel the industry will attempt to force my hand on that count), but I would like to be able to connect wireless for what are apparently nifty features. I have a few VCDs and a number of multi-region DVDs I'd like to play, and I'd like to be ready for multi-region Blu as well.

I live with my parents at the moment, though of course that could be changing soon. I've always thought of building some some small home theater, the problem is location. I tend to watch my DVDs on bed in my room, where there's no room for surround sound and such. I could always set up a proper HT in the basement and just get a nice LCD TV and stereo for my room, but any level of HT is expensive, and I'm notoriously frugal even with a significant amount of money saved up... I also have an irritating Aspergers-inflected tendency to research the living hell out things before I buy them in an attempt to balance money and quality. Anyway...

I'd consider anything over the $200 mark a bit pricey,
I'd probably go up to about $300, but I don't know if I can get anything decent enough in that range. Admittedly, now DVD players are cheap and Blu-Ray players are getting cheaper (I work at a Meier where we have DVD players at ridiculously low prices, but if you're looking for something region-free, then you can't just grab whatever.). I WAS going to buy a BR player and put my old one down in the basement when I never had one, but so much for THAT plan....

Advice from anyone? I've been unsure who to ask, but I've heard this is one of the best AV and home theater forums on the net....
post #14014 of 16474
You can easily get Pioneer Elite BDP-53FD for $300 or less from many vendors now that they've just released (the virtually identical but new for this year) BDP-62FD.
post #14015 of 16474
My opinion if you haven't got a tv that has a hdmi kind of a waste a time looking at bd players..

ya better off sticking with dvd player for dvd playback..
post #14016 of 16474
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

You can easily get Pioneer Elite BDP-53FD for $300 or less from many vendors now that they've just released (the virtually identical but new for this year) BDP-62FD.

Yeah, but is it region-free?
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Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28 View Post

My opinion if you haven't got a tv that has a hdmi kind of a waste a time looking at bd players..

ya better off sticking with dvd player for dvd playback..

Yeah, well, I should upgrade that anyway, but its getting to the point where every single damn special feature is on Blu-Ray, so I could think of this is as preparation, and in any case, there's no point in buying all of this stuff on DVD if I'm going to have to buy it again on BR to get the other stuff.
post #14017 of 16474
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 View Post

My wonderful Phillips DVP-5982 has just died on me....

Advice from anyone? I've been unsure who to ask, but I've heard this is one of the best AV and home theater forums on the net....

I've heard that some of the Insignia BD players (Best Buy house brand) are easily modified to be region free. You should be able to find details by searching.
post #14018 of 16474
thing is you waste your time using the br player to playback dvd material anyway..
post #14019 of 16474
Not necessarily. If you use decent players such as Pana BDT220 or Oppo 93, the upscaling quality of those machines are amazing.
post #14020 of 16474
Standalone BD players are readily available for $100 or less. 3D players are maybe $50 more, but usually include additional features besides just 3D.

In the U.S., many major brands (like Sony and Panasonic) don't even let their BD players play PAL region 0 (all-region) DVDs. Sharp (and thus Pioneer) players do play PAL region 0, though, upscaling them to 1080p/60. Apparently downloadable firmware mods are available for some players to make them multi-region.

For DVDs, this problem can be gotten around by playing the discs on a computer. If your DVDs are all from one other region (my imported discs are all Region 2 -- from the U.K.), then you can set the computer's DVD player permanently to that region. (That's what I did.) Software packages are available which will play any region, too. AnyDVD is often mentioned.

In my bedroom, I use an external standalone BD player for all my Region 0 and 1 DVDs and a laptop (connected by HDMI to a surround-sound receiver) with an external USB DVD drive for Region 2.
post #14021 of 16474
I have a question for you guys. I've been reading through AVS Forum for a few weeks and been trying to get an idea between 2 Bluray players. I just purchased the Panasonic DMP-BDT500 for $260 shipped (new) and had the option of picking up the Sony 790 for a few bucks cheaper. I can still cancel my order over the weekend. What would you guys go with and why?
post #14022 of 16474
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

I would look at Panasonic DMP-BDT 220 and Sony BDP-S590. You could also go down to Sony BDP-S390 if you want to skip the 3D support. These are not sub $100 players new, but if you want reliability and 3D I think you need to pay $100 or more. Watch for sales, I got the Costco equivalent of the BDP-S590 on sale for $100 several weeks back.
I have not used the Panasonic myself, but one nice feature I have heard about is a zoom function for cropping non-anamorphic DVDs to 16:9. I had that on some of my older Panasonic DVD recorders and miss not having it on my current Blu-ray players. Might have gone for the Panasonic myself except that DLNA support was important to me and Panasonic is not known for good DLNA.

Thanks. I was wondering if the BDP-S590 might be the way to go. Think I'll start looking for a good deal on a refurb. Oddly enough, Amazon has the S590 and S390 for the same price.
post #14023 of 16474
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Originally Posted by LRC253 View Post

I have a question for you guys. I've been reading through AVS Forum for a few weeks and been trying to get an idea between 2 Bluray players. I just purchased the Panasonic DMP-BDT500 for $260 shipped (new) and had the option of picking up the Sony 790 for a few bucks cheaper. I can still cancel my order over the weekend. What would you guys go with and why?

Panasonic for its analog audio outputs. Sony for its network streaming inputs.
post #14024 of 16474
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

I've heard that some of the Insignia BD players (Best Buy house brand) are easily modified to be region free. You should be able to find details by searching.

Hmm, but would I still be able to update it?

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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Not necessarily. If you use decent players such as Pana BDT220 or Oppo 93, the upscaling quality of those machines are amazing.

My friend has a first-generation Playstation 3 (or rather had one before it broke), and it played and upscaled regular DVD quite gorgeously. I was under the (perhaps misguided) impression that any BR player worth a damn would do that now with and HD TV and and HDMI hookup.

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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

Standalone BD players are readily available for $100 or less. 3D players are maybe $50 more, but usually include additional features besides just 3D.
In the U.S., many major brands (like Sony and Panasonic) don't even let their BD players play PAL region 0 (all-region) DVDs. Sharp (and thus Pioneer) players do play PAL region 0, though, upscaling them to 1080p/60. Apparently downloadable firmware mods are available for some players to make them multi-region.

Is there any concrete list of what does what and how to modify things? With DVD, it was a simple case of checking to see if the player could be accessed with a remote hack, this seems significantly more complicated....
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For DVDs, this problem can be gotten around by playing the discs on a computer. If your DVDs are all from one other region (my imported discs are all Region 2 -- from the U.K.), then you can set the computer's DVD player permanently to that region. (That's what I did.) Software packages are available which will play any region, too. AnyDVD is often mentioned.

I use VLC for the moment, a bit rudimentary, but effective.
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In my bedroom, I use an external standalone BD player for all my Region 0 and 1 DVDs and a laptop (connected by HDMI to a surround-sound receiver) with an external USB DVD drive for Region 2.

I'm trying to get one machine that'll solve all my problems, a player that can play everything. If I can connect that to a mid-price HDTV I might have an at least temporary solution.
post #14025 of 16474
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 View Post

Hmm, but would I still be able to update it?
No. But your choices are get a $40 insignia you can easily hack but not update, or pay a couple of hundred for a region locked player with 3rd party firmware to make it region-free, or several hundred more for a proper region-free player. I'd personally go with the $40 option until I ran into issues.
post #14026 of 16474
I guess I am a bit like many here who want a BD player that also can play other media.

My other media is stored on NAS and is a compilation of all my discs - DVD and BD.

Is there any particular BD players that do well with VOB and M2TS files? Of the latter,
I am interested in the HD audio and sub-titles. My guess from what I have been reading
is that Oppo 93 or 95 and also the Panasonic 330 and 500 models might* do well with
my NAS. Presently I use a Dune 3 base media player but would be happy to retire it
(along with my old model PS3 that I use to play discs) and get a BD player that "does it all."

Is this a worthwhile venture and also, does the Marantz BD player 5005 (I think that is the model)
do the above? It is difficult to tell which players also upscale well for the VOB files. I will
be watching on a newly purchased Panasonic VT 50 plasma.

Any help would be extremely appreciated. (Posted or PM)

Thanks in advance

- Phrehdd
post #14027 of 16474
The new OPPO models are the BDP-103 and -105 (the latter is not released yet).

They do play VOB and M2TS, with subtitles and HD audio in the latter. These work on local storage, over DLNA, and in the new players on SMB shares.

One machine to do it all: I don't know. I've always presumed specialty components would be better than a combined appliance, but times change.

-Bill
post #14028 of 16474
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

No. But your choices are get a $40 insignia you can easily hack but not update, or pay a couple of hundred for a region locked player with 3rd party firmware to make it region-free, or several hundred more for a proper region-free player. I'd personally go with the $40 option until I ran into issues.

I"m actually starting to think I should go the reverse, get a powerful player that'll update and upscale to prepare for the future, or hell, just buy an HDTV and be ready. Of course, apparently it's harder to find and HDTV that can handle PAL on this side of the pond, so that's a whole new problem.
post #14029 of 16474
Of course, if you use a BD player which can upscale PAL DVDs to 1080p60, then you don't need a TV which can do it. BD players are usually a lot less expensive than quality TVs.

You might try locating a (now two year old) Sherwood BDP-5004. The firmware that they shipped with initially included multi-region support. Later shipments didn't. So far as I know, there were only the two firmware versions for that player.
post #14030 of 16474

Cambridge Audio BD751 or Oppo BDP-93 or wait for Oppo BDP103

Hi

My Oppo BDP 83 has died on me and not worth repairing. I have a basic Samsung BD player to tie me over. Question is do I wait for the new Oppo 103 or buy now and get either the CA or Oppo 93. The new Oppo uses the Marvells Kyoto G2H video processor. Is this different from the current Marvell used in bot the CA and the 93 and has 4k video upscaling. If buy now shoud I get the CA or Oppo? I can get both at the same price although the CA is 2nd hand but only 6 months old. My amp is Denon 4810 and the TV is Pioneer Kuro 9th gen.

I will use the player for BDs and DVDs and multicahannel playback (SACDs and DVD-A). It will not be used for 2 channel as I have seperate system

Any advise appreciated.
post #14031 of 16474
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Originally Posted by danieljoseph View Post

Hi
My Oppo BDP 83 has died on me and not worth repairing. I have a basic Samsung BD player to tie me over. Question is do I wait for the new Oppo 103 or buy now and get either the CA or Oppo 93. The new Oppo uses the Marvells Kyoto G2H video processor. Is this different from the current Marvell used in bot the CA and the 93 and has 4k video upscaling. If buy now shoud I get the CA or Oppo? I can get both at the same price although the CA is 2nd hand but only 6 months old. My amp is Denon 4810 and the TV is Pioneer Kuro 9th gen.
I will use the player for BDs and DVDs and multicahannel playback (SACDs and DVD-A). It will not be used for 2 channel as I have seperate system
Any advise appreciated.
Just sign up for the BDP-103 here, some people have already received their pre-release units. (48 states only)

This unit is newer then Cambridge's product, hence newer QDEO.
post #14032 of 16474
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Originally Posted by danieljoseph View Post

Hi

My Oppo BDP 83 has died on me and not worth repairing.

OPPO will repair it for about $60. (Check with them for the exact price).

Anchor Bay still produces the best DVD image. I don't think they're making the chips anymore.

-Bill
post #14033 of 16474
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Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

I guess I am a bit like many here who want a BD player that also can play other media.
My other media is stored on NAS and is a compilation of all my discs - DVD and BD.
Is there any particular BD players that do well with VOB and M2TS files? Of the latter,
I am interested in the HD audio and sub-titles. My guess from what I have been reading
is that Oppo 93 or 95 and also the Panasonic 330 and 500 models might* do well with
my NAS. Presently I use a Dune 3 base media player but would be happy to retire it
(along with my old model PS3 that I use to play discs) and get a BD player that "does it all."
Is this a worthwhile venture and also, does the Marantz BD player 5005 (I think that is the model)
do the above? It is difficult to tell which players also upscale well for the VOB files. I will
be watching on a newly purchased Panasonic VT 50 plasma.
Any help would be extremely appreciated. (Posted or PM)
Thanks in advance
- Phrehdd

Based on what I have heard about the Dune players and the claims on their Web site, you may have trouble matching the media playback functionality in any BD player (with the exception of the Dune BD players). In particular, Blu-ray players with media playback may be able to handle the VOB files and M2TS files, but they generally cannot mount Blu-ray or DVD images and play menus and things like that which I believe the Dune players can.

Panasonic players have a good reputation as Blu-ray players, but not as network media players, so if you get a Panasonic, you will want to keep your Dune. For example, I don't think any of the Panasonic players can handle HD Audio from files on a NAS and you probably will need a DLNA server to remux or transcode content in order to play VOB files.
post #14034 of 16474

Want one box with: ATSC / Netflix / BluRay / DLNA / 802.11 ???

I have an Epson 8350 projector (has HDMI input). To feed the projector, I want a single player that has all of the following:

ATSC Tuner (use with OTA antenna)
Netflix
BluRay player
DLNA client
802.11

For the life of me I can't find anything that has all this. Anyone have any ideas?
post #14035 of 16474
It's the ATSC Tuner that you won't find in any device that does the other things. It's probably never going to happen either.
post #14036 of 16474
Ok, my second Insignia region free player just crapped out on me and I don't want to shell out $500+ for an Oppo. Can anyone recommend a reliable region free bluray player in the sub $200 range?
post #14037 of 16474
How does it fail exactly, discs unreadable? If so, you may just need to clean the hub/spindle. The problem with Oppo is it uses exactly the same drive as Insignia, so if your drive is failing, then Oppo will fail too. If it's something else, then another player is in order.

If you get any panasonic, you can buy a region-free firmware for it.
post #14038 of 16474
I already have a panasonic BD500 and would love to just buy a hardware mod for that if it is available, reliable, and does nto require soldering. My first Insignia would not power on, my current Insignia gives me a "No Disc" error with any disc inserted.
post #14039 of 16474
Any opinions on a refurbed Samsung BD-D5250C? Amazon has it as a refurb (Samsung RBBD-D5250C/ZA) for $59.00.

Just looking for a basic player to put with my upstairs TV (Panasonic 50G25) connected to Vizio VHT215 soundbar. Will be used to watch BDs, Region 1 DVDs, and maybe stream some Netflix. Will use hardwired internet through Actiontec Moca adapter.
post #14040 of 16474
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Originally Posted by Gronnie View Post

Any opinions on a refurbed Samsung BD-D5250C? Amazon has it as a refurb (Samsung RBBD-D5250C/ZA) for $59.00.
Just looking for a basic player to put with my upstairs TV (Panasonic 50G25) connected to Vizio VHT215 soundbar. Will be used to watch BDs, Region 1 DVDs, and maybe stream some Netflix. Will use hardwired internet through Actiontec Moca adapter.

I would stay away. Samsung players don't have the best reliability. And a refurbed one (with a track record of an issue)?
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