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post #14851 of 15128
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Originally Posted by dryasanne View Post

Just about to buy a Sony 590 from Amazon.com

At $115.00 this is just perfect price


Other players with 3D and built in wifi I should consider at this price?

I already have two, the oppo 93 which I am about to sell
-- and the fantastic Sony 790

Most of all I would just buy another 790, I am so happy with it.

But its kind of pricey, what are the cheaper alternatives - that plays Life of pi in 3D and Skyfall just as perfect as my Sony 790 and Oppo 93 ?

PS
This new sony 5100 - whats the "big deal" with this, compared to the older 590 ?? Its only 10-20 dollars more expensive, I guess.

OK. I"ll bite. Why would you sell your 93 to buy a 590? The 590 and Panny 220 (being replaced by the 230) are very popular. But the 790 and the Oppos are better and you already own them. It would make more sense to go with the newer models (Oppo 103, Panny 230 of 330, etc) since at least they have new features.
post #14852 of 15128
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Originally Posted by dryasanne View Post

PS
This new sony 5100 - whats the "big deal" with this, compared to the older 590 ?? Its only 10-20 dollars more expensive, I guess.

apw2607 just posted a summary of advantages that the 5100 has over the 590 in
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1396469/official-sony-bdp-s590-and-bdp-390-thread/3210#post_23084461
post #14853 of 15128
So what player should I buy?

Mostly will watch non3d movies on the new 80" sharp.
Though it would be nice to show off the 3d capabilities when friends come over.
Guess it would be nice to upscale, but hardly have any DVDs anyways.
Wait fr 2013 models?
Budget 200-300 bucks.
post #14854 of 15128
All players will upscale, and most have 3D. Panasonic and Sony are the most popular brands in your price range. You could either get a discount on a 2012 model, or get a 2013 model. PQ will be the same. The new models have added web browsers and are faster loading. Check out the Panny and Sony dedicated threads.
post #14855 of 15128
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

All players will upscale, and most have 3D. Panasonic and Sony are the most popular brands in your price range. You could either get a discount on a 2012 model, or get a 2013 model. PQ will be the same. The new models have added web browsers and are faster loading. Check out the Panny and Sony dedicated threads.


Is the PQ really better on a OPPO? Sorry, complete newbie here.
post #14856 of 15128
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Originally Posted by R0ckets11 View Post

Is the PQ really better on a OPPO? Sorry, complete newbie here.
No.
post #14857 of 15128
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

No.

Then why would people pay $500 or more or a bluray player?
post #14858 of 15128
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Originally Posted by R0ckets11 View Post


Then why would people pay $500 or more or a bluray player?

You can see the features on OPPO's web page or in the FAQ in my signature. Plus build quality, customer support reputation, standard two year warranty.

-Bill
post #14859 of 15128
The problem with Oppo is of course not PQ.
When you have a better Japanese player, like Sony 790, you will learn;

A) the remote sucks, not as is, but you have to point straight at the IR eye, not at any angle. The Sony - you can use the remote any way you like, its perfect happy with reflected signals from the ceiling.

B) thus roomie universal. With an Global Tech Ir blaster

C) i just moved my Oppo. All the sudden it got out of range. That means I have to buy a iTach serial controller for my Oppo They are expensive.


The bad remote, the need for iTach, the cumbersome region changing - it all sums up in getting something else, more userfriendly.
post #14860 of 15128
drysanne, the remote is better with the newest Oppo models.
Agree that PQ is very similar with all BluRay players for BluRay discs, although PQ for upscaling SD DVDs does vary, as does AQ if done via analog. And of course the Oppos play SACDs and DVD-As.
post #14861 of 15128
Hi, I'm looking for a new player to go with my new TV. Main features I want are Netflix, Youtube, and the ability to connect to a DLNA media server (or possibly some other server that is easy to set up).

Now I can find lots of players that do that, but what I really need is one capable of connecting to a 5Ghz N network. I would connect it to the 2.4 Ghz band, but I still have some older devices that need that for G. I'm having a really hard time finding any information about what kind of networks these players support. Pretty much every site I look at just says built-in wi-fi, as if that was all the information I needed.

I'm also on a budget and am looking at players under $150, although I may be willing to go above that if it has what I need. Any help anybody can give me would be appreciated.


Or perhaps I should get a roku and a cheap player to just play my discs?
post #14862 of 15128
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Originally Posted by magic88889 View Post

Hi, I'm looking for a new player to go with my new TV. Main features I want are Netflix, Youtube, and the ability to connect to a DLNA media server (or possibly some other server that is easy to set up).

Now I can find lots of players that do that, but what I really need is one capable of connecting to a 5Ghz N network. I would connect it to the 2.4 Ghz band, but I still have some older devices that need that for G. I'm having a really hard time finding any information about what kind of networks these players support. Pretty much every site I look at just says built-in wi-fi, as if that was all the information I needed.

I'm also on a budget and am looking at players under $150, although I may be willing to go above that if it has what I need. Any help anybody can give me would be appreciated.


Or perhaps I should get a roku and a cheap player to just play my discs?

I would suggest the Sony BDP-S5100. However, I don't know of any current players that support 5 GHz Wi-Fi. Since you want to do DLNA, I would strongly suggest using a wired connection to the player instead. If running Ethernet is out of the question, look into Powerline or MoCA.

If you must do Wi-Fi, you can always get a bridge with 5GHz, but that may not cut it for HD video over DLNA.

Roku is a good option for streaming services like Netflix, but they don't have an official YouTube app, they don't support DLNA and they're not ideal for local streaming because of limited codec support.
Edited by Vampidemic - 3/18/13 at 6:19pm
post #14863 of 15128
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Originally Posted by magic88889 View Post

Hi, I'm looking for a new player to go with my new TV. Main features I want are Netflix, Youtube, and the ability to connect to a DLNA media server (or possibly some other server that is easy to set up).

Now I can find lots of players that do that, but what I really need is one capable of connecting to a 5Ghz N network. I would connect it to the 2.4 Ghz band, but I still have some older devices that need that for G. I'm having a really hard time finding any information about what kind of networks these players support. Pretty much every site I look at just says built-in wi-fi, as if that was all the information I needed.

I'm also on a budget and am looking at players under $150, although I may be willing to go above that if it has what I need. Any help anybody can give me would be appreciated.


Or perhaps I should get a roku and a cheap player to just play my discs?

You're probably better off with a cheap player and a roku 3. The Vizio player has dual band connectivity, but there are complaints about consistent connectivity.

If you want a higher end player, you can get one but would need a media bridge like this one to have it perform reliably. It would give you the option of connecting other (three more) devices at good speeds wirelessly, but if you're only interested in the bluray, it's superfluous.

You would still need a player with DLNA capabilities.
post #14864 of 15128
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

You're probably better off with a cheap player and a roku 3. The Vizio player has dual band connectivity, but there are complaints about consistent connectivity.

If you want a higher end player, you can get one but would need a media bridge like this one to have it perform reliably. It would give you the option of connecting other (three more) devices at good speeds wirelessly, but if you're only interested in the bluray, it's superfluous.

You would still need a player with DLNA capabilities.

... or buy the cheap BD player + a 5Ghz WAP ... or Powerline.
post #14865 of 15128
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

... or buy the cheap BD player + a 5Ghz WAP ... or Powerline.

True, if it's a possibility. However you get connectivity, the idea is to get the best you can. The request was for DLNA, Netflix and Youtube, bluray and DVD (I believe). The cheaper players may not have DLNA.

Best thing to do is to check the threads for the lower priced players, see that all of the three are handled well. Go with that and whatever connectivity works for you.
post #14866 of 15128
Within my Budget.. and it will probably be only used a BR player.. dont really care bout all the other options..I have a PS3 that i use for everything but the player itself if finally starting to show its age.

Within my budget.. looking at the PAN 220, 320, 230 and maybe the 330. Trying to keep it under $200. Always liked PAN products.
post #14867 of 15128
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Originally Posted by kreepy View Post

Within my Budget.. and it will probably be only used a BR player.. dont really care bout all the other options..I have a PS3 that i use for everything but the player itself if finally starting to show its age.

Within my budget.. looking at the PAN 220, 320, 230 and maybe the 330. Trying to keep it under $200. Always liked PAN products.
If you don't want any options, then why not consider the $80 BD79? No point in buying features you'll never use.
post #14868 of 15128
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

True, if it's a possibility. However you get connectivity, the idea is to get the best you can. The request was for DLNA, Netflix and Youtube, bluray and DVD (I believe). The cheaper players may not have DLNA.

Best thing to do is to check the threads for the lower priced players, see that all of the three are handled well. Go with that and whatever connectivity works for you.

you can still pick up BDP-S590 for $94. It has DLNA, Netflix (SuperHD support), and Youtube. Not too shabby. Although if Youtube was a priority, i would go for the Sony BDP-S3100 that has the Youtube HD interface.
post #14869 of 15128
Thanks everyone for your help. I'm going to go with the Sony BDP-S3100 and get a media bridge for the couple of devices that don't support N. It's a little more money than I really wanted to spend, but I think I'll be happier for it.
post #14870 of 15128
I am looking for a blu ray player, other than Sony, that has a rear USB under $250. I like being able to start a blu ray from where I stopped it. It seems none of the players can do so without a USB stick plugged into it. I really do not like having a USB stick hanging out the front of the player. All of the new players do not have rear USB????

There reason I do not want a Sony is because I tried the S590 and the S790, both of which had serious audio lag when hooked up VIA HDMI to my Yamaha RX-A820, HDMI to my Samsung UN65ES8000. I recently purchased an LG BP530, no audio lag, but no rear USB!! I just can't win......
post #14871 of 15128
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

I am looking for a blu ray player, other than Sony, that has a rear USB under $250. I like being able to start a blu ray from where I stopped it. It seems none of the players can do so without a USB stick plugged into it. I really do not like having a USB stick hanging out the front of the player. All of the new players do not have rear USB????

There reason I do not want a Sony is because I tried the S590 and the S790, both of which had serious audio lag when hooked up VIA HDMI to my Yamaha RX-A820, HDMI to my Samsung UN65ES8000. I recently purchased an LG BP530, no audio lag, but no rear USB!! I just can't win......

From everything I've read on this forum starting a blu ray disc from where you stop it is disc related not player related.

My Panasonic DMP-BDT500 has a rear USB port but is for the Communication Camera only.

Al
post #14872 of 15128
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

I am looking for a blu ray player, other than Sony, that has a rear USB under $250. I like being able to start a blu ray from where I stopped it. It seems none of the players can do so without a USB stick plugged into it. I really do not like having a USB stick hanging out the front of the player. All of the new players do not have rear USB????

There reason I do not want a Sony is because I tried the S590 and the S790, both of which had serious audio lag when hooked up VIA HDMI to my Yamaha RX-A820, HDMI to my Samsung UN65ES8000. I recently purchased an LG BP530, no audio lag, but no rear USB!! I just can't win......
All my sonys could resume without using a USB stick, depending on the title of course. Also the audio lag is easily adjusted in the player setup.
post #14873 of 15128
My 2009 Panasonic can resume on Blu-rays, provided the disc is authored that way. This is not a player issue and it is not related to a USB stick as I don't use one.
post #14874 of 15128
DVD's will normally resume but Blu Ray Discs depend solely on the manufacturerer of the disc and it doesn't matter what player you have.

Al
post #14875 of 15128
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

. Also the audio lag is easily adjusted in the player setup.

There is an audio delay option on the blu ray player, my AVR, and my TV, but that will not help me at all. My problem was the audio was DELAYED. All 3 units gave me the option to further delay the audio, which would make my problem worse. There are no options to ADVANCE the audio or DELAY the video....... What cured my problem was switching to a non-Sony blu ray.

I have to disagree with the statements on resuming discs. The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, Dredd, Brave, Breaking Dawn Part 2, Wreck it Ralph, Skyfall, Total Recall, and several other discs would not resume without a thumb drive plugged in on all 3 units I have tried, but would resume with a thumb drive installed. I had the Sony 590 &790 here at the same time comparing the 2, then returned them for the LG 530, all with the exact same results.

So far I am still on the hunt for a non Sony unit with a working rear USB......
post #14876 of 15128
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

There is an audio delay option on the blu ray player, my AVR, and my TV, but that will not help me at all. My problem was the audio was DELAYED. All 3 units gave me the option to further delay the audio, which would make my problem worse. There are no options to ADVANCE the audio or DELAY the video....... What cured my problem was switching to a non-Sony blu ray.

I have to disagree with the statements on resuming discs. The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, Dredd, Brave, Breaking Dawn Part 2, Wreck it Ralph, Skyfall, Total Recall, and several other discs would not resume without a thumb drive plugged in on all 3 units I have tried, but would resume with a thumb drive installed. I had the Sony 590 &790 here at the same time comparing the 2, then returned them for the LG 530, all with the exact same results.

So far I am still on the hunt for a non Sony unit with a working rear USB......

I'm not saying some Blu Rays won't resume. What I'm telling you is that if a Blu Ray movie will resume playing at the point where you turn it off it's because the manufacturer of the disc made it that way and not because of the player you have. Maybe those Sony players do need a thumb drive in order to resume a Blu Ray, I wouldn't know that but what I do know is in order for a blu Ray Disc to resume playing where it was after being turned off is soley up to the manufacturer of the disc. This is common knowledge.

I own two of those movies you posted and I will try them to see how they work in my Panasonic.

Al
post #14877 of 15128
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Originally Posted by timmay77 View Post

There is an audio delay option on the blu ray player, my AVR, and my TV, but that will not help me at all. My problem was the audio was DELAYED. All 3 units gave me the option to further delay the audio, which would make my problem worse. There are no options to ADVANCE the audio or DELAY the video....... What cured my problem was switching to a non-Sony blu ray.

I have to disagree with the statements on resuming discs. The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, Dredd, Brave, Breaking Dawn Part 2, Wreck it Ralph, Skyfall, Total Recall, and several other discs would not resume without a thumb drive plugged in on all 3 units I have tried, but would resume with a thumb drive installed. I had the Sony 590 &790 here at the same time comparing the 2, then returned them for the LG 530, all with the exact same results.

So far I am still on the hunt for a non Sony unit with a working rear USB......
That is a problem. Seems like I could go ahead or behind on the audio (had to do that on Total Recall since sync was really terrible on that one), but maybe I'm remembering wrong.

I watched Skyfall (from Redbox) a few nights ago and resume worked fine on my Sony which has never had a USB plugged into it. Seems like it worked on some of those other titles too. Maybe it acts different if you never plug in a thumb drive versus using a thumb drive for a while, then removing it. Probably starts storing resume points externally then gets confused when the drive is removed. Just a theory.

My old Panny 220 had a rear USB and worked pretty well as I recall, except for DLNA of course. I've seen those for $100 or so a couple of places, or under $70 for refurb/open-box.
post #14878 of 15128
Well I tried the two blu rays that I have from your list, The Dark Knight Rises, Total Recall, and both of them will resume playing where they left of after being turned off. They will even resume after being taken out of the player and put back in. Some discs won't and some will. Like I said, that depends on how the manufacturer formatted the disc. I haven't used either of the USB ports on my Panasonic DMP-BDT500 although the rear port is only used for the Communication Camera and I believe the Panasonic DMP-BDT220 is the same way.

Al
post #14879 of 15128
I'm sure it has something to do with how the disc is formatted, but I have found EVERY disc will resume where I left off, not matter what, if there is a USB installed. That is what I want.....
post #14880 of 15128
Hi everyone. I'm new to AVS so apologies If this been posted here a million times recently.

just spent a heap on speakers, and the next thing to upgrade in my setup is the bluray player. I'm currently using a PS3. the local high shop reckons they do an okay job, but that I can do much better as the video processor in the unit isn't awesome.I think they were recommending an Oppo as an alternative, but would be grateful for some advice and recommendations.


I'm not really sure what else I should be looking for in a bluray player, but it must be 3d compatible, upscale DVD and have network connectivity.

Main use will be music dvds and bluray, movies, receiving steamed video content from my network.


Grateful for all advice and suggestions please.
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