OFFICIAL "HELP ME CHOOSE A PLAYER" THREAD: Can't decide? Start HERE. - Page 51

Originally Posted by oapy123

dude, he's 80...whats he going to do with a ps3????? Play porno games? lol i think we're gonna go with the BDP-S300 @ CC and use the leftover money towards a nice remote. When all is said and done, he'll be able to watch porn on any one of 4 different formats, all at the touch of a single button

Originally Posted by oapy123

whats he going to do with a ps3?????

Originally Posted by MidniteBlues

Play porno games?

Originally Posted by Syzygy

I'm yet another geezer. My eyes lit up when I saw your emendation to oapy123's post. Are there porno games for PS3? For any game box? That's the only kind of game that would hold this geezer's interest.

Originally Posted by MidniteBlues

FYI, CC has the BDP-S300 on sale for $339.99, the newer BDP-S350 for $399.00 and of course the PS3 for $399.00. (Hey don't knock the Betamax, I still have mine ((altho currently not hooked up)) AND IT STILL WORKS)LOL Thats nice your helping out an old man. Us old geezers (I'm over 50, can't beleive I'm saying I am an old geezer, I feel 25 in my mind) haven't really been keeping up as much as we needed to with all the fancy new high tech electronic gizmos.. I am slowly am catching up with yawl young guns..

Originally Posted by MidniteBlues

Well dude, you asked for sony options and a price range dude, you got that dude.. you didn't say exclude the PS3 ..dude..

Originally Posted by steve ans

no

Originally Posted by oapy123

dude, i figured you would have enough common sense to realize that an old man is not going to want a game console. Srsly dude

Originally Posted by cognitive77

Now, from what I've read, not many people can hear the difference between PCM and bitstreaming. I'm sure there is a difference, but is there that much of a difference. If not, my other concerns would probably be upconversion and video quality.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Jay_Davis

Actually, there is no difference. The people that are hearing a difference are doing so only because of one of two reasons:
- They are hallucinating.
- They have an issue/limitation with their receiver that causes one or the other to sound better.

Originally Posted by JDMoose

I've just started the process of looking into Blu-Ray players. Is there a way to switch the sound through the digital output to my processor without having to turn the sound down or muting the TV? Currently I am using a Denon 2910 DVD player and it has DVI out going to the TV and a digital audio cable going to the processor. I haven't seen any DVI out on any of the Blu-ray players, and my processor does not have an HDMI input/output for switching. One of the salespeople at the home theater store said you can switch it off with the menu on the blu-ray players.

Originally Posted by BillP

Can't you use an HDMI-DVI cable or adapter to connect the player directly to your TV, while using an audio cable from the player to your receiver? That's what I plan to do (my display also only has a DVI input).

Originally Posted by JDMoose

I have a Sony 46Z series. It has an HDMI in for a HDMI to DVI but all the Blu-ray players only have HDMI. If the sound can't be switched with the setup of the Blu-Ray then I guess one would have to use an HDMI/DVI adapter. Blue Jeans cable has them for $12 each. Seems like you would have the option of turning off the sound to the TV since most people with Blu-ray players listen to them through their home theater systems.

Originally Posted by Tarheel72

What's your vote? Go with the Sony quality or give Samsuck another chance and get that great Reon processor?

Originally Posted by BillP

The adapter is <$4 at Monoprice. You don't have to turn off the audio since DVI does not carry audio. So if you use an HDMI/DVI adapter to connect the HDMI cable to the DVI input on the TV, no audio will reach the TV.

Originally Posted by JDMoose

Thanks for the update. I realize that HDMI produces video and audio and DVI video only. Is there a setting on the Blu-ray menu to run video only through the HDMI and audio through the digital audio out?

Originally Posted by cpcat

There are theoretical advantages to bitstream in its inherent immunity to the effects of jitter.

Multi-PCM requires re-clocking in the receiver/processor if jitter is to be suppressed. Assuming this is the case, there won't likely be any difference. It's certainly possible that cheaper receivers will do this "less well" as prices continue to drop. OTOH, bitstream will eventually usurp multi-PCM anyway.

Info on jitter:



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...0&postcount=96

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthrea...7#post12389387

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908665

Originally Posted by mbg10484

hey, whats up? got some questions about blue ray. am getting a samsung 61" dlp in couple of weeks and was thinking about getting a blue ray too...
am mostly looking at basic sony model (STR-DG720)

I'm assuming sony's are probably the best, since they invented the whole blue ray technology.... yes? no?

are ps3's blue ray playing capabilities just as good as stand alone units?
can ps3's upconvert SD dvd's like the stand alone units can?

MAIN CONCERN: how good of quality is the upconverting done by the above mentioned model (STR-DG720)??? I have a HUGE SD dvd collection ...originally I was going to just buy a top off the line upconverting (to 1080P) dvd player, it is an oppo which is supposed to be the absolute best one and uses the best chip set ( DCDi by Faroudja) and I realize still won't quite be as good as blueray, but i also don't have a huge library of blue ray movies

BUT.... now that the blue rays have come down to a reasonable price, if the upconverting qualites compare to that of the oppo, i will just pay a little extra and get it now, and forget about the oppo. and if sony Blue ray's upconvert sux, then will just get the oppo for now and get a blue ray down the road.

Can anyone vouge for the STR-DG720's upconvert capabillities?
Can anyone vouge for the ps3's blue ray player capabilities and or its ability or lack of to upconvert SD dvd's like the stand alones?

Originally Posted by buddahead

Having a 2 year old Yamaha reciever that cost over a grand'I do not want to upgrade yet.What Bd player will give me with the new HD sounds.HDDTS ECT.MY RECIEVER HAS HDMI inputs but does not decde the newwe Blue ray codecs.I have the Magnavox Bd player and it only passes the new sounds.I need the player to decode them .THANKS

Originally Posted by LonnyE

I'm thinking this is a good time to consider my first Blu Ray player.

Background/Criteria:
*Not interested in PS3 (player will be rack-mounted).
*Upconversion not critical (I have an XA2 which is a very good upscaler)
*Want player to be profile 2 compatible or upgradable (yes I understand the difference between 1.1 and 2.0)
*I have a NAD T-175 pre-pro (HDMI 1.3 but it does not decode most advanced codecs within the pre-pro)
*Wont spend more than $700 on player

Looks like the upcoming Sony BDP-S550 would possibly fit this criteria for me quite nicely. Other than waiting for this player should I be seriously considering another player?