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post #15121 of 16475
I would not trust Rubbing Alcohol with a plastic lens. Better to use lens cleaner for that, and lens Tissue as well vs. a cotton swab that sheds particles.
post #15122 of 16475
I agree, no alcohol on the lens, just the hub.
post #15123 of 16475
Wow, this is a bit harder than I thought it was going to be. I just purchased a 1080p Tv and wanted to see what it's capable of, so I thought a BluRay player would fit nicely with my system. I have an Onkyo 818 with 5.1 speakers and an older pioneer elite DVD player. I was looking at the Oppo 103 but was steered towards a lower cost player because my Onkyo would do the processing. I'm fine with that, BUT as I was looking for the lower priced players, I saw tha, for example, the Sony $250 player (BDP S-790) did not offer DVD Audio. I have some of these discs from my pio elite days when listening via analog but now my Onkyo 818 does not have analog connections. So I would still want a player that would do DVD Audio. Will I still end up getting the Oppo or is there another lower priced option for my needs.

Also, can I even listen to DVD Audio with my current set up with an hdmi connection if I no longer have analog connections? If not, then I'll just forget about SS music I guess, because I will not be replacing the 818 any time soon.
post #15124 of 16475
If you want to listen to DVD-A discs, then you need a "universal" player like the Oppo 103. My impression is that the "universal" players from other companies are in the same price range (u.s. $500 or higher). An HDMI connection will work fine. You don't need analog connections.
post #15125 of 16475
^^^^^ What Selden said.

You won't regret getting an Oppo if that's what you need.

I listen to my DVD-A's through HDMI on my Oppo, great sound.
Edited by hernanu - 5/17/13 at 11:17am
post #15126 of 16475
OK Thank you, guys. Just one question which isn't as important at this point. Will I be able to use the Onkyo processing for everything, including DVD Audio, instead of the Oppo? At this point it would not matter, as I'm sure both are "capable" processors for my needs. I just wanted to simplify everything through the AVR.

Thought I could save a few $$ with a lower priced DVD player, but alas, another $500 on this AV stuff. lol.. I don't upgrade that often, so I'll be good for many years to come. Thanks again.
post #15127 of 16475
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Originally Posted by cissado View Post

OK Thank you, guys. Just one question which isn't as important at this point. Will I be able to use the Onkyo processing for everything, including DVD Audio, instead of the Oppo? At this point it would not matter, as I'm sure both are "capable" processors for my needs. I just wanted to simplify everything through the AVR.

Thought I could save a few $$ with a lower priced DVD player, but alas, another $500 on this AV stuff. lol.. I don't upgrade that often, so I'll be good for many years to come. Thanks again.

The tradeoff is not playing DVD-A's. If you really want that, then this is the way to go, if not, then a Sony may get you SACD instead.

You can set the Oppo to bitstream to the 818. This means your 818 will process the sound, doing the digital to analog conversion at the 818. Since the 818 has analog inputs, and the Oppo has analog outputs, you could also let the Oppo do the conversion and sent it through to the 818 by the analog connections.

You bypass the 818's A/D converters and room correction, but some people like it this way.

I am a fan of HDMI, so have no problem at all doing SACD and DVD-A and everything else through it.
post #15128 of 16475
Looking for a good 3d blu ray player for around $150 with the ability to play region 1 and 2. good sound, picture. It will be used with my 3d samsung 8000 series tv. What would you guys suggest?
post #15129 of 16475
Looking to get some suggestions on what would be the best 3D Blu Ray Player.. Im definitely wanting a outstanding picture and audio quality to go with my brand new 60" Samsung F8500 and my 7.2 home theater. Budget around $200. Please help...

I'm really considering jumping on the sale at Frys for the Pioneer BDP-150 3D Blu-Ray Player. $89.99 but I'm not sure....
http://www.frys.com/search?to=24&cat=-68524&sort=price%20desc&from=0&query_string=&pType=pDisplay&fq=m10099998%20Pioneer

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post #15130 of 16475
The streaming features and file formats available with Pioneer players (which are rebadged Sharp players) tend to be, shall we say, rudimentary. You might want to consider the equivalent Sony or Panasonic players instead.
post #15131 of 16475
May I ask why the Panasonic DMP-BDT230 player has such bad review? The 220 player, the older model, had such great reviews. Why did Panny take such a huge step down?
post #15132 of 16475
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Originally Posted by MrHT View Post

May I ask why the Panasonic DMP-BDT230 player has such bad review? The 220 player, the older model, had such great reviews. Why did Panny take such a huge step down?

You linked to Amazon, where there are currently only 11 reviews. I read a few of the reviews; it sounds like there have been some software issues. Hopefully they will address those issues quickly.

Realistically, the player will need to be out for longer and more reviews written in order to have a better idea of player quality. They may fix the software issues and the ratings may go up. Also, there may be users not having problems that haven't bothered to write.

However, so far the new Sony players have higher ratings and many more reviews, so that's worth considering for anyone looking to buy a new player now.

Note: I would actually read the reviews rather than just look at ratings. Keep in mind that it is common practice for companies to pay to have reviews written about products or services, so don't necessarily believe everything you read.
post #15133 of 16475
I've had almost every version of the Panasonic players since the beginning (BD10 still running strong). For some reason they have had difficulties with this player. A deal on the 220/320 would be better. If interested in streaming, the Sonys are much better.

S~
post #15134 of 16475
Hello,

I'm looking for suggestions for a blu-ray player for my new theater room. I'm looking to stay at or below $300. Needs to have 7.1 capability, 3D and support all the audio formats my AVR supports.

Here is my AVR: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EVGS2E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks for the help!

I was considering the Sony BD-PS790 but I read it doesn't support 7.1 TrueHD audio?
post #15135 of 16475
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Originally Posted by Chad711 View Post

Hello,

I'm looking for suggestions for a blu-ray player for my new theater room. I'm looking to stay at or below $300. Needs to have 7.1 capability, 3D and support all the audio formats my AVR supports.

Here is my AVR: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EVGS2E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks for the help!

I was considering the Sony BD-PS790 but I read it doesn't support 7.1 TrueHD audio?
Sure it does. You will set your player to bitstreamand your AVR will handle the audio decoding. You really don't need the dual HDMI of the 790. S5100 is also a possibility.

S~
post #15136 of 16475
Great thank you. Any other functionality I may be losing with the 5100? If not ill go that route and save some cash! Thanks
post #15137 of 16475
I am trying to find a 3D blu ray player. I don't really need any streaming options as my TV and future AVR have a ton of streaming options. I was looking at the panasonic dmp-bdt220 (last year's model) but most retailers seem to be going out of stock. The bdt230, as mentioned earlier seems to have some firmware issues at the moment. I really want the ability to bitstream any audio present on blu ray discs to my avr. Any suggestions on which one to buy. Thanks.
post #15138 of 16475
Any new player can bitstream all lossless codecs. Panasonics and Sonys are well regarded at reasonable prices. Most 3D players seem to have WiFi and streaming apps.
post #15139 of 16475
Hello,

I'm looking for a budget Blu-ray player in the range of £75 - £150, but really need to be able control the players over IP and also have analogue audio out.

Does anyone have any advice on which manufacturers are open with their IP control protocols?

I really appreciate any advice you can offer!

Thanks
post #15140 of 16475
None are "open", but sony and panasonic IP protocols have been reverse engineered (hacked) and have been posted. Are you going to write your own app or use an existing one?

When you say analogue audio, do you mean full 7.1 or just stereo? If the former, then you probably won't find an affordable player with both analogue and IP control.
post #15141 of 16475
Thanks for your response. Just stereo analogue out is perfect. I will look in to Panasonic machines, is there any specific model that generally gets recommended?
post #15142 of 16475
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Originally Posted by PhoneSlacker View Post

Thanks for your response. Just stereo analogue out is perfect. I will look in to Panasonic machines, is there any specific model that generally gets recommended?
I believe the current Sony and Panny models do not include any analog audio outs (not even 2-channel). You may have to look into previous models (such as Panny 220 and 210). Check out both manufacturers' web sites.
post #15143 of 16475
Yeah Bill, I've seen it called the "Analog Sunset". I read something about here on AVS and a couple other sites not long ago and, if I remember correctly, it has to do with copyright protection.

It's all a little confusing to me but I'm really glad I got my Panasonic DMP-BDT500 with all these analog audio and video outputs. Even though I don't copy discs at this time the analog audio outs really come in handy with the system I have.

Al
post #15144 of 16475
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Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

...I'm really glad I got my Panasonic DMP-BDT500 with all these analog audio and video outputs. Even though I don't copy discs at this time the analog audio outs really come in handy with the system I have.

Al

+1. Panny 500 refurbs going for $190 approx on amazon eek.gif Grabbed 2 myself; go get yours wink.gif
post #15145 of 16475
Hey all,

I searched around and read the past few hundred pages but can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for.

My beloved Sony DVD Carousel (Circa 2001) finally retired - I certainly got my money's worth from that. I've decided to replace it with a blu-ray player. In the past year I've updated everything else (HD TV, Denon 2113CI.)

That last one is the clincher: Denon receiver with Zone 2 directed to an external amplifier which sends audio to 4 other rooms. Nearly all (from what I've learned here at AVS) of today's receivers will only send ANALOG audio to Zone 2, DIGITAL to the main zone only. The workaround is that you have to "double up" your audio lines from the source to the receiver with the RCA Red/White cables.

So. If I were looking for a decent BRP (Similarly feature-laden to the Samsung BDF5900, except I don't need 3D) with Analog Audio Out in the $100-$150 range, and wasn't interested in spending what an Oppo costs.. do I have any options?



I'm thinking that the Receiver people didn't have a discussion with the Blu-ray people when they talked to the Analog Sunset People.
Edited by Montego Murph - 5/30/13 at 10:15am
post #15146 of 16475
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

Yeah Bill, I've seen it called the "Analog Sunset". I read something about here on AVS and a couple other sites not long ago and, if I remember correctly, it has to do with copyright protection.

It's all a little confusing to me but I'm really glad I got my Panasonic DMP-BDT500 with all these analog audio and video outputs. Even though I don't copy discs at this time the analog audio outs really come in handy with the system I have.

Al

The analog sunset is really only for high quality analog video. I think the analog audio is being phased out due to economics and the fact that many lower end AVRs don't have analog sound inputs.

The video phaseout involves Component video, which is the target of the owners and controllers of the bluray spec. The phaseout is dictated by the bluray group (really the studios), and was actually implemented beginning Jan. 2011. Any bluray player built after that could not include component outputs.

If you have an already existing player with component out, the plan is to put in an Image Constraint Token in a bluray disk that will recognize that you're using a component output. This will cause the output signal to be downrezzed from 1080p to 540p, or about 1/4 the resolution of a clean 1080p signal.

This was put in by the studios since they use a security scheme called HDCP to ensure that no copying happens. The problem (for them) is that component out did not support HDCP, so there was a 'hole' in their protection. Of course this blasts people who have perfectly good component based HDTVs, but that is not a consideration for the studios IMO.

So analog sound is fine, just not emphasized in the lower end AVRs, so it probably is being sidelined to make cheaper players that are only HDMI based. The Oppos, for example have it and will probably do so for the foreseeable future.

Here's a good writeup on the analog sunset from consumer reports
Edited by hernanu - 5/30/13 at 9:40am
post #15147 of 16475
Montego Murph,

You might want to consider getting a separate 5-disc carousel CD player for listening to audio in your other rooms.

However, last year's mid-range BD models, like Sony's BDP S-590 and Panasonic's DMP-BDT220, are in your price range and have analog outputs. There might be some still available.
post #15148 of 16475
Looking for a BluRay player with the following attributes.

Wired or wireless, wireless preferred with some reliability.
Built in browser needed to get the video I'm looking for,
Ability to play flash video online,

And, that video is located at www.motogp.com .

Haven't found one yet that does a decent job of playback of live video from that website, and I acknowledge that
the capability may not exist. I can look through the forum for days, but what I'm looking for is a report of actual
experience using that website for this purpose on said machine.

I can continue using a laptop for this but it would be nicer to not need to do this.

thanks,
tjm
post #15149 of 16475
I have a Panny BD85 player, works great with blurays but doesn't seem to be up to the task of streaming 1080 and 5.1 audio via Netflix. I am new to streaming and called Netflix and Panasonic and both confirmed my BD85 does not support 1080HD or 5.1 audio, only 720. Antique already I guess.

What is a suitable replacement for my BD85 that will stream 1080 and 5.1? I'm not familiar with the newer models. I have a BD87 in the bedroom and it has performed like a piece of junk toy. The 85 was great. I'm not tied to any brand.

I'm connecting audio to an older Rotel 1057 receiver via optical and to a Sony 55HX929 display.

Any suggestions? Thanks! smile.gif
post #15150 of 16475
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

I have a Panny BD85 player, works great with blurays but doesn't seem to be up to the task of streaming 1080 and 5.1 audio via Netflix. I am new to streaming and called Netflix and Panasonic and both confirmed my BD85 does not support 1080HD or 5.1 audio, only 720. Antique already I guess.

What is a suitable replacement for my BD85 that will stream 1080 and 5.1? I'm not familiar with the newer models. I have a BD87 in the bedroom and it has performed like a piece of junk toy. The 85 was great. I'm not tied to any brand.

I'm connecting audio to an older Rotel 1057 receiver via optical and to a Sony 55HX929 display.

Any suggestions? Thanks! smile.gif

PS ON paper both these look pretty good to me: Panny BDT500 and Sony S790....thoughts?
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