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post #15331 of 16461
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Originally Posted by fritowrdo View Post

Looking to add DLNA functionality to my home office.

Current setup:

1. TV - Sony tube TV with component but component is broke.
2. Basic Toshiba DVD player - Connected to TV via composite and AVR via coax.
3. AVR - Onkyo TX-SR304.

I have two AVRs that support DLNA along with my Oppo BDP-93 but those are in other rooms.

Any recommended Blu-Rays that support DLNA along with composite out or are there better options via AVR or TV upgrades?

Thanks in advance!

Time for a TV upgrade. Composite won't carry high definition video.

-Bill
post #15332 of 16461
Quote:
Originally Posted by fritowrdo View Post

Looking to add DLNA functionality to my home office.

Current setup:

1. TV - Sony tube TV with component but component is broke.
2. Basic Toshiba DVD player - Connected to TV via composite and AVR via coax.
3. AVR - Onkyo TX-SR304.

I have two AVRs that support DLNA along with my Oppo BDP-93 but those are in other rooms.

Any recommended Blu-Rays that support DLNA along with composite out or are there better options via AVR or TV upgrades?

Thanks in advance!

Search out a sony bdp-s390. Has DLNA with composite out
post #15333 of 16461
Quote:
Originally Posted by fritowrdo View Post

Looking to add DLNA functionality to my home office.

Current setup:

1. TV - Sony tube TV with component but component is broke.
2. Basic Toshiba DVD player - Connected to TV via composite and AVR via coax.
3. AVR - Onkyo TX-SR304.

I have two AVRs that support DLNA along with my Oppo BDP-93 but those are in other rooms.

Any recommended Blu-Rays that support DLNA along with composite out or are there better options via AVR or TV upgrades?

Thanks in advance!


If you don't plan to buy a TV right away, I think the recommendation to seek out a BDP-S390 is good. The 2013 Blu-ray models omit analog video outputs, so you won't find any newly introduced players that are compatible with your TV. However, as others have mentioned, you won't be taking advantage of Blu-ray quality with composite outputs, so you should consider updating your TV.

What were you planning to use DLNA for? FYI, DLNA support varies significantly across devices. I believe a lot of the AVRss with DLNA are more oriented towards audio playback, whereas BD players are more oriented towards video. The Sonys are pretty good and will play audio, video and photos via DLNA, but they don't show cover art for music or allow you to view photos and play audio at the same time. Also, there is no gapless playback support for audio.
post #15334 of 16461

Best search and browse brand?

Great information on here, thanks. I searched for an answer and couldn't find much that was current.

Which Blu-Ray player brand has streaming search/browse features most like Roku?

On my Roku I can search for a program on Netflix...then if I do the same on Amazon it shows my recent search on Netflix. With my old Sony blu-ray you had to start from scratch.

I don't need a high-end unit, just blu-ray player, streaming with Amazon. 3D not required.
Edited by hometeamdawg - 7/30/13 at 7:47am
post #15335 of 16461

Need need Bluray Player

I am getting tired of using my noisy PS3 as my BD player.

Curious what others recommendations are for a good player ...$100-$120 range.

I really do not care about smart apps or 3D....thou wifi would be nice for getting firmware updates and such. Just good PQ which I realize is pretty much same these days ...more concerned about freezes , easy UI and load speed.

So far I have looked at Sony 3100 and Panny 230.

Thanks,
post #15336 of 16461
Either would be a good choice. I personally haven't had the 3100. I have the Sony S790 and currently have the Panasonic 230. My Panasonic preference, though, is actually last year's X20 model. The 230 drive is noisy on initial disc startup. But then again, the Sony S790 drive is not quiet either. I personally do not like the Sony interface. I prefer Panasonic's.

S~
post #15337 of 16461

Inexpensive but decent Player

I've sold the PS3 I was using for my player on my LG Plasma tv and looking for a good replacement.
Mainly interested in a solid image, other things like DLNA, Apps are optional, unless the unit runs Plex natively
then I'd consider it. I already have an Oppo on my Basement HT, Don't want to break the bank. Any Suggestions?
post #15338 of 16461
Thanks for all the replies.

The main reason is for the audio portion for the music CDs on my DLNA server.

I have the DVD player just to play music CDs while I work. The TV is actually behind where I sit and rarely gets used.

The Onkyo TX-SR304 handles the 5.1 setup in my room with ease and has served me well.

If I will get better performance out of a new AVR for DLNA, I am all ears for something like my Onkyo TX-NR509 in my bedroom.
post #15339 of 16461
Although I've used my bd players and avrs for music playback with DLNA ... Personally the best devices I have to extend my server music collection is apples appletv and apples airport express. It works so seamlessly there my go to devices for music. The original Apple TV supports analog video and audio.
post #15340 of 16461

Best player for scratched Blu-ray discs

I'm done with POS Panasonic players... This is my 3rd player, BDT220, I dont know why I keep buying this garbage... If the discs has as much as microbe poop speck on it, the movie will freeze... They don't even always play new BR right... Plays just fine on PS3, but I don't have it in my theater room, so I need a separate player.

Any recommendations for a robust inexpensive player? I need something really basic, don't need any features at all, just good quality playback and ability to read scratched-to-hell Netflix blurays...

Thanks
post #15341 of 16461
Haven't had any problems reading discs on any of my Panasonic players from the BD10 to BDT320. You might try the Sony. Haven't had any problems reading discs with my S790, either.

S~
post #15342 of 16461

3D Blu-ray player with iso and mkv support

I'm looking for a 3D Blu-ray player (e.g. from LG, Pioneer, Sony, Samsung, Philips, etc) that support Blu-ray-ISO, DVD-ISO and mkv.

Besides, the following features are desired :

- USB 2.0 or 3.0
- BD-Live or Smart TV (so with internet support), at least with the YouTube app.
- SACD and/or DVD-Audio (one can drop this demand, because there are little players (Sony, Pioneer) that support this).

The price must be less than 250 euro's.

Nice players that I have found, meeting my demands :

Asus O!Play BDS-500 (and BDS-700).

But, actually I'm looking for a more famous brand regarding to quality consumer electronics, like Samsung.

Let me know if there's such a player.

P.S.

I also found the Dune BD Prime 3.0 player, but it is too expensive for me.
post #15343 of 16461
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Originally Posted by Vstreamy View Post

I'm looking for a 3D Blu-ray player (e.g. from LG, Pioneer, Sony, Samsung, Philips, etc) that support Blu-ray-ISO, DVD-ISO and mkv.

Besides, the following features are desired :

- USB 2.0 or 3.0
- BD-Live or Smart TV (so with internet support), at least with the YouTube app.
- SACD and/or DVD-Audio (one can drop this demand, because there are little players (Sony, Pioneer) that support this).

The price must be less than 250 euro's.

Nice players that I have found, meeting my demands :

Asus O!Play BDS-500 (and BDS-700).

But, actually I'm looking for a more famous brand regarding to quality consumer electronics, like Samsung.

Let me know if there's such a player.

P.S.

I also found the Dune BD Prime 3.0 player, but it is too expensive for me.

The major manufacturers do not offer ISO support in current players. Some did in the past and removed the feature, presumably due to objections from the content providers.

If ISO support is important you're best value is likely to get a player and a separate streamer. Sony BDP-S5100 will get you great disc playback including SACD and some MKV support. I don't follow the streamers too closely, but I think there are some reasonably priced non-mainstream devices online that can do what you need.
post #15344 of 16461

Best blu-ray player to pair with Emotiva UMC-200?

I recently purchased an Emotiva UMC-200, XPA-3 and XPA-200, and full Klipsch Reference surround system.

I had planned on using my PS3 fat as a blu-ray player, but I found out that it won't stream the HD audio codecs.

Now I'm in the market for a standalone blu-ray player. I've been looking around a bit on my own. I've seen the Oppo players and they look great, but might be overkill for me since I already have a really nice sound processing unit (the UMC-200) and a Mac Mini media center. Would there be any sound or video quality benefit to going with a higher end player like the Oppo, or should I stick with something simple that can stream those codecs? Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance!
Edited by Xac Stegner - 8/5/13 at 10:16am
post #15345 of 16461
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Originally Posted by Xac Stegner View Post

I recently purchased an Emotiva UMC-200, XPA-3 and XPA-200, and full Klipsch Reference surround system.

I had planned on using my PS3 fat as a blu-ray player, but I found out that it won't stream the HD audio codecs.

Now I'm in the market for a standalone blu-ray player. I've been looking around a bit on my own. I've seen the Oppo players and they look great, but might be overkill for me since I already have a really nice sound processing unit (the UMC-200) and a Mac Mini media center. Would there be any sound or video quality benefit to going with a higher end player like the Oppo, or should I stick with something simple that can stream those codecs? Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

How are you going to use it? What mix of HT / Music will you have..?

For Music:

Do you want to play stereo or multi channel lossless music disks (SACD, DVD-A)? If you're playing from a network drive, do you want lossless file support (FLAC, etc. ) ? Do you want good stereo only listening?

For HT:

I assume the UMC-200 will handle the lossless codecs, so I you'd be bitstreaming to it from your player. So any player that can handle HDMI will do. On bluray, the quality is very comparable among all players, differences will be small on smaller displays, only evident on larger. DVD is another matter entirely, if you do any significant amount of DVD viewing, you want something that can handle upscaling well.

Overall:

The tradeoff is price vs. performance. If the bulk of your use is HT and bluray, any player will probably do. The more demanding thing is DVD upscaling and the proper upscaling of streaming input. One extra that new Oppo players provide is the ability to process other sources (cable, satellite, streaming boxes) through its graphics engines to the display.

Price?

Once we know how you plan to use it, the recommendations will come in.
post #15346 of 16461
Xac Stenger - Your PS3 will decode lossless tracks and produce the exact same PCM as your receiver. So, there's no need for a new player if the only issue is lossless bitstreaming.
post #15347 of 16461
Hi folks. Can anyone point me to a mid range (under $150) player that will play 1080p MKVs with HD audio off of USB, DLNA or authored BD-R? I have an older LG (BD690) that will at least play MKVs with DTS-HD, albeit silently (you have to switch to DTS core or another audio track if you've saved them), but any MKVs with Dolby TrueHD or LPCM won't play at all. The only newer player I've tried (Panny BDT230) won't even play the files w/DTS-HD and won't even give me an error message when I try to play them either like the LG does. It just hangs and then crashes instead, so I returned it.

The manufacturers do a good job burying this info in the owners' manuals about exactly which codecs/formats are allowed through the player's different playback options so I'm hoping someone who watches MKVs w/HD audio through their player will just let me know what the model is that's working for you. Thanks!
post #15348 of 16461
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Originally Posted by ElJimador View Post

Hi folks. Can anyone point me to a mid range (under $150) player that will play 1080p MKVs with HD audio off of USB, DLNA or authored BD-R? I have an older LG (BD690) that will at least play MKVs with DTS-HD, albeit silently (you have to switch to DTS core or another audio track if you've saved them), but any MKVs with Dolby TrueHD or LPCM won't play at all. The only newer player I've tried (Panny BDT230) won't even play the files w/DTS-HD and won't even give me an error message when I try to play them either like the LG does. It just hangs and then crashes instead, so I returned it.

The manufacturers do a good job burying this info in the owners' manuals about exactly which codecs/formats are allowed through the player's different playback options so I'm hoping someone who watches MKVs w/HD audio through their player will just let me know what the model is that's working for you. Thanks!

Support for HD audio formats is intentionally omitted or limited due to piracy concerns. Consumer capture devices don't use these formats, so the only use would be to play copies of commercial content. I would not expect them to make it that easy, especially at that price point.
post #15349 of 16461
The Sony tube TV is now gone and a newer Samsung TV in its place.

I am going to do DLNA through an AVR but need a very basic Blu-Ray player.

I am looking at a Sony BDP-BX110 from Costco. The price is right and it has HDMI, ethernet and coax to hook to the non-HDMI AVR.

Mostly to play Blu-Rays and music and occasionally Netflix videos.

Anything in this price range a better choice?

Thanks
post #15350 of 16461
I'm new here and new to HT and quality audio, really. Looking for advice. These forums have been an awesome information source.

I'm thinking of - but not committed to - getting the Panasonic DMP-BDT230. I plan to have other devices (AppleTV, Roku) for streaming services, so I really am only concerned about CD audio quality and DVD/Blu-ray picture quality, both 2D and 3D. And I like the price.

I honestly don't know what other formats I might want/need. I'm hoping one player will be enough for both music and video. I'd like to be able to play DTS 5.1 music DVDs - and I'm not even sure what other formats would be essential.

I plan to use it with a Denon AVR-1713 and an Epson 3020e projector (but I haven't bought either one yet). Was also thinking of getting the budget-friendly Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home speakers. But I'd really like to replace the front speakers with the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1's, and perhaps use only the Diamonds for non-5.1 stuff.

Should I be considering something else, given my priorities and planned system? Any other thoughts on my planned system?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated! Thank you!
post #15351 of 16461
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Originally Posted by FalseAnimal View Post

I'm new here and new to HT and quality audio, really. Looking for advice. These forums have been an awesome information source.

I'm thinking of - but not committed to - getting the Panasonic DMP-BDT230. I plan to have other devices (AppleTV, Roku) for streaming services, so I really am only concerned about CD audio quality and DVD/Blu-ray picture quality, both 2D and 3D. And I like the price.

I honestly don't know what other formats I might want/need. I'm hoping one player will be enough for both music and video. I'd like to be able to play DTS 5.1 music DVDs - and I'm not even sure what other formats would be essential.

I plan to use it with a Denon AVR-1713 and an Epson 3020e projector (but I haven't bought either one yet). Was also thinking of getting the budget-friendly Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home speakers. But I'd really like to replace the front speakers with the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1's, and perhaps use only the Diamonds for non-5.1 stuff.

Should I be considering something else, given my priorities and planned system? Any other thoughts on my planned system?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated! Thank you!

If you would ever want to play SACD's you would want to look at a Sony. Otherwise the Panny's are a good choice.
post #15352 of 16461
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Originally Posted by fritowrdo View Post

The Sony tube TV is now gone and a newer Samsung TV in its place.

I am going to do DLNA through an AVR but need a very basic Blu-Ray player.

I am looking at a Sony BDP-BX110 from Costco. The price is right and it has HDMI, ethernet and coax to hook to the non-HDMI AVR.

Mostly to play Blu-Rays and music and occasionally Netflix videos.

Anything in this price range a better choice?

Thanks
Not really. That's an excellent basic player.
post #15353 of 16461
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

Support for HD audio formats is intentionally omitted or limited due to piracy concerns. Consumer capture devices don't use these formats, so the only use would be to play copies of commercial content. I would not expect them to make it that easy, especially at that price point.

Thanks Vampidemic. I did not realize that. It would be nice to find a player though that would at least play the video files with no audio on the HD tracks (like my LG does with DTS-HD only with TrueHD and LPCM too). I save all my movies to MKV with multiple audio tracks so it would be a simple matter of switching over the DTS core or DD track instead. Otherwise I'd have to use MKVMerge to strip out the HD track and save a different version of every file.

I take it I'm probably not going to have much luck finding that either though, right? Oh well. Guess I could go the HTPC route again. I was just looking for a cheaper option media streamer/disc player in one that could work with the movie collection I already have ripped to my server. Any idea if even the higher end (Oppo's, etc) would allow that? At that price point I probably would just do another HTPC. But just curious.
post #15354 of 16461
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Originally Posted by ElJimador View Post

Any idea if even the higher end (Oppo's, etc) would allow that? At that price point I probably would just do another HTPC. But just curious.

The current OPPO models (BDP-103 and -105) do support hidef audio in MKV containers, both Dolby and DTS. The earlier players did not.

Works from local USB storage, optical disc, and over DLNA and SMB shares.

If your interest is primarily media files rather than Blu-ray and DVD, I would look at a media server product or HTPC. OPPO is fine at what it does, but specialty products probably support more formats, have better interfaces, etc.

-Bill
post #15355 of 16461
Which BD players can function as a DLNA/UPNP Renderer and play gapless (i.e. support the "SetNextAVTransportURI" DLNA command)?
post #15356 of 16461
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

If you would ever want to play SACD's you would want to look at a Sony. Otherwise the Panny's are a good choice.

Someone suggested the Sony BDP-S5100. What do you think of that?

Are there any other formats that I'd be missing out? Ideally, I'd like to have the ability to play all 5.1 formats. Is that possible?

I'm a newbie and not familiar enough with all the audio and video formats to be sure I'm not limiting myself.
post #15357 of 16461
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Originally Posted by FalseAnimal View Post

Someone suggested the Sony BDP-S5100. What do you think of that?

Are there any other formats that I'd be missing out? Ideally, I'd like to have the ability to play all 5.1 formats. Is that possible?

I'm a newbie and not familiar enough with all the audio and video formats to be sure I'm not limiting myself.
Are you talking about disc formats only? All that info is listed in the respective owner's manuals which you can easily download. Are you connected to your receiver via HDMI or optical/coax?

Take a look at these lists and see if there is some specific format you're concerned about. Maybe you could post some specific titles of yours that have these rare formats.

http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_audio_codecs
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.6

The bottom line is if you don't already own some unusual audio format disc, don't worry about it. The SACD capability of sony mentioned earlier that is missing from panasonic is the major difference. Otherwise all players will play all the common formats in the BD and DVD standards.
post #15358 of 16461
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Originally Posted by FalseAnimal View Post

Someone suggested the Sony BDP-S5100. What do you think of that?

Are there any other formats that I'd be missing out? Ideally, I'd like to have the ability to play all 5.1 formats. Is that possible?

I'm a newbie and not familiar enough with all the audio and video formats to be sure I'm not limiting myself.

The Sony won't play DVD-A, if that's of interest to you. If so, you'd need a universal player such as an Oppo, Denon, etc.
post #15359 of 16461
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Are you talking about disc formats only? All that info is listed in the respective owner's manuals which you can easily download. Are you connected to your receiver via HDMI or optical/coax?

Take a look at these lists and see if there is some specific format you're concerned about. Maybe you could post some specific titles of yours that have these rare formats.

http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_audio_codecs
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.6

The bottom line is if you don't already own some unusual audio format disc, don't worry about it. The SACD capability of sony mentioned earlier that is missing from panasonic is the major difference. Otherwise all players will play all the common formats in the BD and DVD standards.

That sounds good, thank you.

I don't already have anything unusual. I'm coming to all of this for the first time with no knowledge. I just don't want to miss out on compatibility with the most common disc formats. I have one music DVD that's DTS 5.1 (Queen's A Night at the Opera), but it seems like other albums I might be interested in are only in SACD.

What's the significance of DVD-A that BillP mentions?

There's a big jump in price from these budget players to the Oppo!
post #15360 of 16461
DVD-Audio is a nearly dead format using Meridian Lossless Packing to compress high resolution PCM. DVD-A and SACD engaged in a VHS-Beta type format war, which they both lost. While SACD survives mostly in jazz and classical circles, new DVD-Audio releases are pretty rare these days and catalogue discs are often prohibitively expensive. In other words, don't worry about DVD-A.
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