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post #15421 of 16470

Where are the Blu-ray players and DVR in one

I need to get a bluray and it would be nice to have a dvr so I can trash my really really old VCR..
But, I cannot find a DVR and Blu-ray Player. I do not want to record to the Blu-ray, I just wan to play.

Thanks.
post #15422 of 16470
There are none. What do you want to DVR?

S~
post #15423 of 16470
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Originally Posted by Webbdawg View Post

I need to get a bluray and it would be nice to have a dvr so I can trash my really really old VCR..
But, I cannot find a DVR and Blu-ray Player. I do not want to record to the Blu-ray, I just wan to play.

Thanks.
In the US, a PC is the only way to combine those, but I wouldn't recommend it. Get a DVD/HDD recorder to replace your VCR and a separate BD player. If you want a good DVR instead, use a PC and Ceton, Silicon Dust or Hauppauge tuner.
post #15424 of 16470
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

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Originally Posted by Webbdawg View Post

I need to get a bluray and it would be nice to have a dvr so I can trash my really really old VCR..
But, I cannot find a DVR and Blu-ray Player. I do not want to record to the Blu-ray, I just wan to play.

Thanks.
In the US, a PC is the only way to combine those, but I wouldn't recommend it. Get a DVD/HDD recorder to replace your VCR and a separate BD player. If you want a good DVR instead, use a PC and Ceton, Silicon Dust or Hauppauge tuner.

Perhaps this is obvious, but most people rent DVRs through their cable or satellite providers. The options mdavej lists can be viable alternatives, especially for those who want to archive content or minimize monthly fees, but it's hard to beat the convenience of the provider systems.
post #15425 of 16470
Good point. Tivo lifetime is another option with no fees, but the upfront cost is pretty high. After renting DVRs for years, I got fed up with the ever increasing fees, so the PC option is working great for me, saving at least $40/month in fees in my 4 TV household. Takes some effort to set up and a few hundred dollars in initial costs, but pays for itself very quickly. That option only works with cable or OTA though, not satellite. See the HDTV Recorder, HTPC, and DVD Recorder forums here on AVS for more info.
post #15426 of 16470
I'm looking for a Blu Ray player for my new theater, which will be paired up with a Denon 4311 receiver, a JVC projector, and eventually a Radiance mini3d vp. It will be used exclusively for BD playback, so I'm not really interested in streaming capabilities or audio outs for music. Basically looking for good video and audio for Blu Ray discs. The Opppo is nice, but I would not really be using most of the features it offers. It looks like I can get a Pioneer BDP-62 and the Panasonic BDP-500 for about the same price i.e. under 200. Any thoughts on which would be better for video, audio, and general reliability? Any other model suggestions? Wireless isn't too big of a concern either, since my equipment rack will be located next to my router.

Thanks
post #15427 of 16470
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

I'm looking for a Blu Ray player for my new theater, which will be paired up with a Denon 4311 receiver, a JVC projector, and eventually a Radiance mini3d vp. It will be used exclusively for BD playback, so I'm not really interested in streaming capabilities or audio outs for music. Basically looking for good video and audio for Blu Ray discs. The Opppo is nice, but I would not really be using most of the features it offers. It looks like I can get a Pioneer BDP-62 and the Panasonic BDP-500 for about the same price i.e. under 200. Any thoughts on which would be better for video, audio, and general reliability? Any other model suggestions? Wireless isn't too big of a concern either, since my equipment rack will be located next to my router.

Thanks
All your requirements will be met by the Sony BDP-S1100 which is $80 new, $50 used. The other models you mentioned have a lot of features you will never use.
post #15428 of 16470
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

All your requirements will be met by the Sony BDP-S1100 which is $80 new, $50 used. The other models you mentioned have a lot of features you will never use.

The Pioneer and Panny look to be a little more robustly built than the Sony, plus they would likely be easier to implement in an equipment rack. I don't mind spending a little more for a well built unit. Thanks for the reply.
post #15429 of 16470
Thanks everyone, getting one for a monthly fee is not an option. I have already trimmed my monthly cash outflow so I can bank the bling and help my son get his chemistry degree.

I have 3 TVs in the house and only one that has the Cable Box. I like to Record the Formula 1 races and watch them at my leisure in any room I want.
I guess a DVD Player/Recorder would probably be the best bet.



I really hate our Telecommunications Act that was passed so many years ago. It is a license to steal from the American Consumer, especially when it comes to the Cell Phone Market.
The modern Corporate Strategy of reoccurring monthly income is to satisfy the Wall Street Expectations and not provide actual Consumer with a quality product for a reasonable price.
This is why these companies have a "Retention" Department. You can call in and complain that your neighbor just signed up for less than what you are paying and they will lower your rate for the next 6months to a year. Pretty sad business model when you look at it.

I cannot wait till we can have Ala-Cart Cable, Fiber and Satellite Channel Choice/Pricing. There is so much garbage I do not want or watch.
post #15430 of 16470
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Originally Posted by Webbdawg View Post

Thanks everyone, getting one for a monthly fee is not an option. I have already trimmed my monthly cash outflow so I can bank the bling and help my son get his chemistry degree.

I have 3 TVs in the house and only one that has the Cable Box. I like to Record the Formula 1 races and watch them at my leisure in any room I want.
I guess a DVD Player/Recorder would probably be the best bet.


Though this may be the simplest and most cost effective solutions to get up and running, I wouldn't 't say its the 'best' overall.

You will be limited to standard definition recorded via composite/analog inputs for any DVD recorder. Also, if you record more than 2 hours on a disc, a lot of compression has to be applied, which will further degrade the quality of recording. If you're okay with that and managing all of the physical media, I'm sure you can manage, but if you want HD or the convenience of a DVR, the Window Media Center based solutions mdavej mentioned are better (but will require more configuration time and perhaps more hardware investment, depending on what you already have available).

Edit: forgot that in addition to composite, some models have coaxial inputs and digital tuners, so it won't necessarily need to convert from analog if the tuner can get the channel you want to record, but anything sourced from a cable box will go through composite.
Edited by Vampidemic - 8/26/13 at 1:42pm
post #15431 of 16470
All great points. Many years ago, before WMC was a viable option, I used a DVD/HDD recorder for years, in lieu of a DVR. I was comfortable with it since it worked just like my old VCR. Mine had an HDD too, so I got many hours of recording without ever having to use any DVDs. But it also had tons of drawbacks. In addition to the ones mentioned above, it required that I set a timer on my cable/satellite box and on the recorder itself, could only record one thing at a time, and I was stuck watching the one thing it was recording. So while it may be the easiest transition from a VCR, it's far from the best option.

WMC works so much better. You get a full guide, all your subscribed channels in full HD, unlimited recording space, whole home DVR access, remote access outside your home, one-touch-recording for single events and series, a beautiful interface, up to 6 simultaneous recordings and tuners from a single cable card, no timers to deal with, the list goes on. Plus with a PC, you also gain access to your personal library of videos/music/photos, a full web browser and everything you can stream online. You don't have to limit yourself to WMC either. You can run XBMC, Media Portal, Sage, whatever you like. The sky's the limit.

Getting back on topic though, Phisch, the Panny 500 is a solid unit. But the Pio is a lot more refined and closer to Oppo in looks and performance. If you can find a Pio for a good price, that's the one to buy, IMO, especially if you have no need for analog audio.
post #15432 of 16470
For all the reasons mdavej mentions, I love my HTPC setup. I have my TV connected to a networked laptop PC with the beautiful $45 tuner, so with the wireless mouse next to the sofa I can switch the TV to the PC input and do everything from schedule recordings to browsing and playback to direct casting.
post #15433 of 16470
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Originally Posted by phisch View Post

I'm looking for a Blu Ray player for my new theater, which will be paired up with a Denon 4311 receiver, a JVC projector, and eventually a Radiance mini3d vp. It will be used exclusively for BD playback, so I'm not really interested in streaming capabilities or audio outs for music. Basically looking for good video and audio for Blu Ray discs. The Opppo is nice, but I would not really be using most of the features it offers. It looks like I can get a Pioneer BDP-62 and the Panasonic BDP-500 for about the same price i.e. under 200. Any thoughts on which would be better for video, audio, and general reliability? Any other model suggestions? Wireless isn't too big of a concern either, since my equipment rack will be located next to my router.

Thanks

I have similar BD playback needs and am looking for the best VIDEO playback unit. Seems like the Oppo 103 is rated the best but I would not need the majority of its features. Is there any player that can touch the Oppo for video playback?
post #15434 of 16470
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

I have similar BD playback needs and am looking for the best VIDEO playback unit. Seems like the Oppo 103 is rated the best but I would not need the majority of its features. Is there any player that can touch the Oppo for video playback?
For BluRay playback, PQ will be pretty much the same with all players. For upscaled SD DVDs, there will be some differences, but more subtle than dramatic (with reasonable players). Thus, the Panny and Sony models are very popular here, at reasonable prices. The Oppos are great players, with great build quality and great customer support. But if you don't need their features, the Pannys and Sonys are excellent choices. Check out all the related player threads.
post #15435 of 16470
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

For BluRay playback, PQ will be pretty much the same with all players. For upscaled SD DVDs, there will be some differences, but more subtle than dramatic (with reasonable players). Thus, the Panny and Sony models are very popular here, at reasonable prices. The Oppos are great players, with great build quality and great customer support. But if you don't need their features, the Pannys and Sonys are excellent choices. Check out all the related player threads.

I sit about 10' from a 133" screen and my PS3, Panny 110 and older bd30, all look about the same. I had the Oppo 103 in to demo and could see an extra definition or vividness to the pic, in addition to it's performance for SD like you mention. Granted, the difference would probably seem trivial to most, but it stood out to me. Just curious if there is anything else to look at that has that kind of reputation for playback excellence?
post #15436 of 16470

Blu Ray with Ipad app

Looking for a Blu Ray with an Ipad app that allows Wake On LAN/Power on Via IP. Also would like app to control more than just the basic features (eg control Netflix with the Ipad app). Thanks!
post #15437 of 16470

Any blu-ray player than can vertically shift image?

Hi, thanks for reading.

I use MPC-HC for videos and have it set so i can move the image vertically. For example, a 2.35:1 film usually plays in the center of the screen with black borders at top and bottom, but MPC-HC can move the film to play at the bottom of the screen, putting it more directly in line with my eyes and allowing me to drop a black cloth over the top of the screen to match the aspect ratio.

Now I want a hardware blu-ray player for 3d, etc. Does anyone know if any of them have a similar feature? region-free is best.

Thanks!
post #15438 of 16470
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

I sit about 10' from a 133" screen and my PS3, Panny 110 and older bd30, all look about the same. I had the Oppo 103 in to demo and could see an extra definition or vividness to the pic, in addition to it's performance for SD like you mention. Granted, the difference would probably seem trivial to most, but it stood out to me. Just curious if there is anything else to look at that has that kind of reputation for playback excellence?
Not at that price point. There's always the Oppo 105 for better AQ if using the analog audio outs (same exact PQ).
post #15439 of 16470

Looking to use a BD Player primarly for music

My 10 year old Sony-ES sacd player stopped reading discs and I've been using my PS3 to play cd's in the mean time. But I want get a dedicated cd player that can play some SACD's as well, even if its thru PCM (From what I've read most of the Sony BD players can play sacd's)...So my question is, any recomendations on Audio performance alone from the existing entry level BD players out there ?.....really not interested in the other bells and whistles.
post #15440 of 16470
In the budget BD players, only Sony supports SACD. Otherwise you will need a universal player like Oppo, Denon, etc.

S~
post #15441 of 16470
Haven't played an SACD yet, but the S5100 sounds lovely on CDs. I have a couple somewhere I'll try to dig up. But this would be PCM as there are no analog outs- the S790 has those.
post #15442 of 16470
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

In the budget BD players, only Sony supports SACD. Otherwise you will need a universal player like Oppo, Denon, etc.

S~

Yeah, I'm ok with the Sony ones, my Sams club has one for $64, so If I can play them via PCM using the digital coax, I'm fine with that, it also should be able to play my dvd-audio discs in DD or DTS too.

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Originally Posted by cjvnyc View Post

Haven't played an SACD yet, but the S5100 sounds lovely on CDs. I have a couple somewhere I'll try to dig up. But this would be PCM as there are no analog outs- the S790 has those.

I think the Sams club model is the equivalent to the S5100, I'll look into that as well...thanks
post #15443 of 16470
I suspect the $64 Sony is the X110 (equivalent to the S1100 which is usually around $80). You need to get the X510 (equivalent to the S5100) for SACD support. (or X59 if any are still in stock) It typically costs closer to $100. The quick test is to see if it has a (miniscule) front-panel display. The 5xx model has one. The others don't.

Edited to add:
Sorry, Sony players do *not* play either DVD-A or DAD audio formats. They do play DTS audio discs, though.
post #15444 of 16470
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

I suspect the $64 Sony is the X110 (equivalent to the S1100 which is usually around $80). You need to get the X510 (equivalent to the S5100) for SACD support. (or X59 if any are still in stock) It typically costs closer to $100. The quick test is to see if it has a (miniscule) front-panel display. The 5xx model has one. The others don't.

Edited to add:
Sorry, Sony players do *not* play either DVD-A or DAD audio formats. They do play DTS audio discs, though.

In regards to the DVD-A, my PS3 plays them fine using the always encoded DD track or DTS track included.
post #15445 of 16470
It's playing the DVD-Video portion of the disc, just like a regular DVD. Sony players ignore the DVD-Audio portion of the disc.
post #15446 of 16470
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

It's playing the DVD-Video portion of the disc, just like a regular DVD. Sony players ignore the DVD-Audio portion of the disc.

Correct. My point was that its able to read the music tracks on the disc. Even when I owned a dvd-a player it was hard to tell the difference between the audio track and the DTS track, but that's a whole new discussion..lol
post #15447 of 16470
Ok, so if I go with the Sony s5100, is sacd playable thru the coax now ?...or I need to use the analog outs ?
post #15448 of 16470

Best blue-ray player for under $1000?

I'm thinking about buying another 3d blue-ray player and I'd like some advice for my best options with a budget of $1000? Any help would be appreciated as I'm clueless to the differences, thanks
post #15449 of 16470
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Originally Posted by Yankees24 View Post

Ok, so if I go with the Sony s5100, is sacd playable thru the coax now ?...or I need to use the analog outs ?

The BDP-S5100 does not have analog outputs, HDMI only for SACD on this player.
post #15450 of 16470

Looking to buy a bluray player that will eliminate black bars on video playback need info help

Just as the title states. I am looking for a good bluray player that will eliminate the top and bottom black bars on playback, without zooming in my tv. I currently have last years panasonic and it gets pretty frustrating as it lacks the feature I am looking for. My price range is 100-400 bucks. Any info would be really appreciated..

Thanks.
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