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Originally Posted by RichBenn View Post

Wow! 500 plus pages!
Normally I search, but please help so I don't have to read through all of these pages.

My situation:
I have a home theater PC with a Blu-ray disc, and am tired of fooling around with continual upgrades needed by the Blu-ray PC programs. I just want to pop a Blu-ray disc in and have it work. So am thinking a plain Blu-ray player is a good option.

Since I have an HTPC and "Smart" TV and I don't really need all the internet apps, wireless networking, etc. And I don't need 3D. But it seems they all come with that lots of features now. Reliability and cost are important to me.

So what should I get?

I won't be doing 3D, but I do like a good picture. I've got 23.xxx refresh thing nailed with my latest PC build, and the video post processing works well, as well, so would I give up some PQ going cheap with a discrete player?

Thanks in advance,
Rich
You might look at the Sony 1100 or 3100. 1100 might do it for you.

S~
post #15572 of 16490
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Originally Posted by Saark View Post

My sisters 5 year old DVD player just died and since I'm the families default "Tech and TV Guy" she asked me what to replace it with. She wants to upgrade to a Blu-ray player and normally I would have multiple recommendations ready for her, however she has lots of out of region DVDs and requires a multi-region Blu-ray/DVD player. I did some research and the only multi-region Blu-ray/DVD players I'm seeing are models that are 2-3 years old. Is she stuck with buying an older model to get the multi-region functionality? I would really appreciate some recommendations for a good multi-region player under $200 and hopefully not a model that's 3 years old already.Thanks for any help you can provide!

Good luck. Region restrictions have their purpose and the major name brand players have effectively designed their players to enforce region restrictions on US players.

I have heard some of the older non-3d Insignia players (Best Buy brand) can be easily modified and are apparently decent disc players, though not as feature rich as other current players, especially when it comes to streaming features. Generally the region free options are limited, so a compromise would need to be made.
post #15573 of 16490
Will try to ask here:

Looking for player for old CD/DVD disks with GOOD ability of file streaming (major purpose) over network (Ethernet?WiFi/DLNA) from NAS.
Most of content is FLAC audio and large variety of video formats.
Considered Panasonic 500 - but in specific thread get an answer that it is worst choice for file streaming.
Considered Sony S790 - has no FLAC support.
Oppo is over the budget.

Can you please suggest me what can be looked for or there is best choice to get Mede8er/Dune media streamer and transfer all disk content to NAS?
post #15574 of 16490
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Originally Posted by KoshonokGav View Post

Will try to ask here:

Looking for player for old CD/DVD disks with GOOD ability of file streaming (major purpose) over network (Ethernet?WiFi/DLNA) from NAS.
Most of content is FLAC audio and large variety of video formats.
Considered Panasonic 500 - but in specific thread get an answer that it is worst choice for file streaming.
Considered Sony S790 - has no FLAC support.
Oppo is over the budget.

Can you please suggest me what can be looked for or there is best choice to get Mede8er/Dune media streamer and transfer all disk content to NAS?
Maybe Yamaha? They appear to have a lot features at a reasonable price. Here's a link to their website. You might ask in one of the owner's threads if interested and have questions for owners.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/blu-ray_players_and_dvd_players/blu-ray-players/bd-s473_black_u/?mode=model

S~
post #15575 of 16490
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

You might look at the Sony 1100 or 3100. 1100 might do it for you.

S~

Funny you should mention that. I picked up a BX110 (same as S1100) at Costco last night, as they were $65. Meets the "easy" criteria, and the pic seemed good enough (as too tired to fully check it the PQ) I'm not using discrete audio, so the stuff over HDMI or SPDIF will probably meet my needs.

Note for others - this does not have wifi. I've got wired Gbit Ethernet with a switch to my home theatre location, so not an issue for me.
post #15576 of 16490
tagging this thread for future reading. a lot of information to process!

Just to put some specs out there...I have a Sony VEGA **27"** CRT TV circa 2006 (read, no HDMI) - I am looking to pick up a Blu Ray player to fulfill my DVD player needs, as an alternative to repairing/replacing my Panasonic DVR (DMR-EH75V), on which the optical drive has recently done gone died on me.

That being said, I need either current model player and an HDMI -> Component/Composite converter cable or an older generation model that still has the old school connectors on the back. I'd prefer to spend no more than around $125 on something new. and less than $100 on something used/refurbished.

Any recommendations or thoughts would be appreciated.

And yes, I am planning to upgrade the TV...hopefully this coming Winter smile.gif

Thanks!
Pat

*edit - apparently my tv is only a 27", not a 32". it's even worse than I thought!
Edited by patrucho - 9/22/13 at 10:46am
post #15577 of 16490
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Maybe Yamaha? They appear to have a lot features at a reasonable price. Here's a link to their website. You might ask in one of the owner's threads if interested and have questions for owners.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/blu-ray_players_and_dvd_players/blu-ray-players/bd-s473_black_u/?mode=model

S~

Thanks, I will take a look on Yamaha and take a look to owner's thread!!
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What blu ray player doesn't lock up?

It's time to retire my LG BD390 for something newer. However, any review I have been reading for newer models have mentioned player lock ups while viewing blu ray discs. Is there a player out there that does not freeze while playing? eek.gif
post #15579 of 16490
I have a Sony S790, Pansonic 350, Panasonic 320, Panasonic 230, and Oppo 93. None of them have ever locked up playing a Blu-ray.

S~
post #15580 of 16490
Continuing saga: I posted this last week:


I have had a Sony BDP S590 for a few years. Connected with Ethernet cable. Has worked fine for me. I use DSL Extreme - I'm at their 6 MB level which they say is the highest I can get on phone line. Connection is to Denon AVR 2809CI which sends to Sanyo PLVZ2000 projector. HDMI in and out.

Problem is Sony does not offer subtitles for Hulu Plus. It's a well known problem for a few years - Sony doing nothing. My wife has a hearing problem with high frequencies, so we need subtitles.

Today I got the Panasonic BDT230. Now I have the subtitles. Problem is it freezes every few minutes. I have tried it on HD 3.2 and 2.0, and SD 1.0 and 650kb. Still freezes frequently on all resolutions, and audio is out of sync with video when it comes back. Did A-B testing with the old Sony and new Panasonic, back and forth several times. Old Sony never freezes, Panasonic freezes every 2-3 minutes.

If I have to I can pay quite a bit more for a blu-ray player. Just want something that allows for subtitles on Hulu Plus and doesn't freeze.


I got back responses from AVS indicating, yep, Panasonics freeze. I returned the Panasonic and got a Samsung F7500. Went to Hulu Plus and clicked on The Good Wife. Suuuuper slow to load, then started up for 30 seconds, then "Playback Failure". Suggested I check the network connection (no problem), or click on "Retry" (same result). I got on their Tech Support Chat line tonight (I must commend Samsung for having any sort of help at 10:30 at night), and support had me change the DNS settings. No luck.

I'm really a noob, but boy there seems to be a whole world of problems I never knew about with the Sony. I'm tempted to take back the Samsung, but maybe I'll call their tech support tomorrow and see if I can get a live person who might have a solution. I'm sure there is tons of stuff I don't know, but it just seems odd to me that a 2 year-old Sony loads Hulu Plus fast and almost NEVER falters, while a new Panasonic and a new (double the price) Samsung can't go more than a minute or so without crashing.

I'll post this over at the F7500 thread and may someone there can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm obviously doing SOMETHING wrong as there must be lots of people out there who watch Hulu Plus with subtitles and have no problems at all. Seems like either I don't have the right hardware, or I'm not setting up or using the hardware correctly. I've heard of Roku (but don't know anything about it), and I'd rather not have separate Roku and blu-ray, but if there is no single-player solution, and Roku is somehow different and would not have any problems, then I could do that. I could even do Oppo, but I'm sure Oppo owners aren't the only ones enjoying Hulu. Appreciate any suggestions.
post #15581 of 16490
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Originally Posted by ltlredwagon View Post

Continuing saga: I posted this last week:


I have had a Sony BDP S590 for a few years. Connected with Ethernet cable. Has worked fine for me. I use DSL Extreme - I'm at their 6 MB level which they say is the highest I can get on phone line. Connection is to Denon AVR 2809CI which sends to Sanyo PLVZ2000 projector. HDMI in and out.

Problem is Sony does not offer subtitles for Hulu Plus. It's a well known problem for a few years - Sony doing nothing. My wife has a hearing problem with high frequencies, so we need subtitles.

Today I got the Panasonic BDT230. Now I have the subtitles. Problem is it freezes every few minutes. I have tried it on HD 3.2 and 2.0, and SD 1.0 and 650kb. Still freezes frequently on all resolutions, and audio is out of sync with video when it comes back. Did A-B testing with the old Sony and new Panasonic, back and forth several times. Old Sony never freezes, Panasonic freezes every 2-3 minutes.

If I have to I can pay quite a bit more for a blu-ray player. Just want something that allows for subtitles on Hulu Plus and doesn't freeze.


I got back responses from AVS indicating, yep, Panasonics freeze. I returned the Panasonic and got a Samsung F7500. Went to Hulu Plus and clicked on The Good Wife. Suuuuper slow to load, then started up for 30 seconds, then "Playback Failure". Suggested I check the network connection (no problem), or click on "Retry" (same result). I got on their Tech Support Chat line tonight (I must commend Samsung for having any sort of help at 10:30 at night), and support had me change the DNS settings. No luck.

I'm really a noob, but boy there seems to be a whole world of problems I never knew about with the Sony. I'm tempted to take back the Samsung, but maybe I'll call their tech support tomorrow and see if I can get a live person who might have a solution. I'm sure there is tons of stuff I don't know, but it just seems odd to me that a 2 year-old Sony loads Hulu Plus fast and almost NEVER falters, while a new Panasonic and a new (double the price) Samsung can't go more than a minute or so without crashing.

I'll post this over at the F7500 thread and may someone there can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm obviously doing SOMETHING wrong as there must be lots of people out there who watch Hulu Plus with subtitles and have no problems at all. Seems like either I don't have the right hardware, or I'm not setting up or using the hardware correctly. I've heard of Roku (but don't know anything about it), and I'd rather not have separate Roku and blu-ray, but if there is no single-player solution, and Roku is somehow different and would not have any problems, then I could do that. I could even do Oppo, but I'm sure Oppo owners aren't the only ones enjoying Hulu. Appreciate any suggestions.

I own an oppo 93. Its a fine player. I also use the roku 3. its a great machine. it does better with the streaming then most of the players. I dont use hulu. I would recommend checking out the roku 3.

Jacob
post #15582 of 16490
Roku 3 it is. Easy set-up, subtitles, no freezes. Oh, and they demand credit card information for the free sign-up!!! "Just so it's available when you need it...." WTF??? I can use Paypal and change things as needed, but really, I live in California, in the N.S.A., er, U.S.A., so I have have no lack of people cooing "right this way, we know what's best for you" with a knife in my back. I don't need Roku piling on!
post #15583 of 16490

Alternatives to Oppo?

I'd like to get a blu-ray player with decent video and audio that will also play .m2ts rips off a usb hard drive. (I don't need ISO playback)

That's pretty much all I need. I'm looking for something I might be able to buy locally, like at a Best Buy, as opposed to ordering online, and hopefully something a little more affordable than Oppo which tends to be priced at a premium ...

My family will be very greatful to you if you can think of anything, as it will mean the end of our hated Netgear player, which has not worked well from day one.

Thanks for any help you might provide us!
post #15584 of 16490
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Originally Posted by Tangled Cable View Post

I'd like to get a blu-ray player with decent video and audio that will also play .m2ts rips off a usb hard drive. (I don't need ISO playback)

That's pretty much all I need. I'm looking for something I might be able to buy locally, like at a Best Buy, as opposed to ordering online, and hopefully something a little more affordable than Oppo which tends to be priced at a premium ...

My family will be very greatful to you if you can think of anything, as it will mean the end of our hated Netgear player, which has not worked well from day one.

Thanks for any help you might provide us!
Any recent Sony can do that, like the $80 1100 at Best Buy (or $50 open-box on Amazon).
post #15585 of 16490
Wow, impressive thread.

Looking to setup 2 new dvd players

1. dedicated home theater system with optoma projector and screen previous owners left - will spend least time here but getting onkyo 818 receiver and have klipsch reference speakers

2. living room TV - hopefully will upgrade TV to large 3d TV soon (70 or 80", black friday?), will be used a lot more than theater room but want nice player that's somewhat future proof.....will have in wall/ceiling speakers with denon x4000

Looking through most recent 10 pages, ones I came across the most were the oppo 103, sony 5100 or 790, panasonic 500....

Obviously budget is always an issue, but don't want to go cheap at the expense of quality/sound since will use these setups for a while

Don't know if future proofing for 4K is necessary

Would appreciate any input...thanks!!!!!
Edited by mdcubsfan - 9/25/13 at 7:48pm
post #15586 of 16490
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Originally Posted by mdcubsfan View Post

Wow, impressive thread. Looking to setup 2 new dvd players1. dedicated home theater system with optoma projector and screen previous owners left - will spend least time here but getting onkyo 818 receiver and have klipsch reference speakers2. living room TV - hopefully will upgrade TV to large 3d TV soon (70 or 80", black friday?), will be used a lot more than theater room but want nice player that's somewhat future proof.....will have in wall/ceiling speakers with denon x4000Looking through most recent 10 pages, ones I came across the most were the oppo 103, sony 5100 or 790, panasonic 500....Obviously budget is always an issue, but don't want to go cheap at the expense of quality/sound since will use these setups for a whileDon't know if future proofing for 4K is necessaryWould appreciate any input...thanks!!!!!

Any of those players you mentioned will feed your receiver an industry standard 1080p digital signal from a Blu-ray with support for the corresponding audio codecs used on BD. Sound quality should be the same if using HDMI to feed your AVR and picture quality won't vary significantly with BD, though perhaps some with DVD upscaling.

The main differences in the players come down to personal preferences and features much more than audio and video quality (though if audio quality is important I would not suggest in ceiling speakers). What features beyond Blu-ray Disc playback do you want/need? Do you need analog audio outputs? Support for SACD or DVD-A? Will you stream audio, video or photos locally or from a service such as Netflix? These types of features will have more variation across players where as any of these players can play discs well over digital outputs.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Any recent Sony can do that, like the $80 1100 at Best Buy (or $50 open-box on Amazon).

Thanks for responding!

How does the image quality from the Sony compare to Oppo?
post #15588 of 16490
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Originally Posted by mdcubsfan View Post

Wow, impressive thread.

Looking to setup 2 new dvd players

1. dedicated home theater system with optoma projector and screen previous owners left - will spend least time here but getting onkyo 818 receiver and have klipsch reference speakers

As far as the Oppo goes, it would probably have the most impact here. Since your 818 is capable of both HDMI and analog audio, you do have a choice, but with mine, I tried both and am happy with HDMI for audio. The 818 will be doing the decoding in that case, its DAC should be as good as the Oppo's (although that may be debatable), but the convenience of HDMI is key for audio.

You also get room correction, which you'd need to do manually if using the analog out from the Oppo.

For video, since you are using a projector, there is an improvement in quality even with blurays. It is just not as obvious in smaller screens. The DVD upscaling will be top notch, it supports multiple HDMI outputs, and can do 4K upconversion if your projector can handle it. Others can do upconversion as well, but the Oppo has a deserved reputation for excellence in that.
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Originally Posted by mdcubsfan View Post


2. living room TV - hopefully will upgrade TV to large 3d TV soon (70 or 80", black friday?), will be used a lot more than theater room but want nice player that's somewhat future proof.....will have in wall/ceiling speakers with denon x4000

Looking through most recent 10 pages, ones I came across the most were the oppo 103, sony 5100 or 790, panasonic 500....

Obviously budget is always an issue, but don't want to go cheap at the expense of quality/sound since will use these setups for a while

Don't know if future proofing for 4K is necessary

Would appreciate any input...thanks!!!!!

In the living room, since the screen is smaller, the bluray improvements may not be obvious. Then again they may, since the screens would be good sized.

In here, the Oppo may benefit the 2D to 3D conversion, the upscaling (80" is not small), and the ability by the Oppo to take HDMI inputs from less capable sources like a cable box or a game box and upscale it for a much better video experience.

Currently (except for players that use the Oppo internals for themselves) this is the only player that can act as a video processor for other sources.
post #15589 of 16490
Does anyone have any actual model numbers for players that could serve as alternatives to Oppo? What should I be looking at for superior picture and audio quality, 3D, and ability to play back rips on a USB hard drive?
post #15590 of 16490
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Originally Posted by Tangled Cable View Post

Does anyone have any actual model numbers for players that could serve as alternatives to Oppo? What should I be looking at for superior picture and audio quality, 3D, and ability to play back rips on a USB hard drive?

Need a little more information, but if you're using a moderate sized screen, playing mostly (or only) blurays and streaming, a good player from Sony or Panasonic will do just fine.

As far as audio quality, if you use an HDMI connection and are bitstreaming, the player is out of it, and the sound is being processed by your receiver. If you have an older receiver, then the quality of the player's DACs comes into play. and the choice is made more difficult.

I believe the new models (and some of the older ones) support USB drives, the thing you need to find out is when you do rips, what format you do them to and which containers you use. These formats need to be supported by the player in order for you to be able to play them, and the quality of the playback also needs to be good.

The Oppos will give you the most formats and features, but if you find a player that does the format you want supported well, then as long as you're bitstreaming audio and doing bluray mostly or solely, you're good with that player.

I'd check the discussions about each player to get a sense of how they perform with the format you want. Good luck...

Whoops - sorry ... Sony S5100, S790, Panasonic BDT 220.
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I have a Denon AVR 4520CI receiver and am looking for a new Blu-Ray player. I also have Apple TV and a Sony VPL HW50ES sitting in a box waiting to be installed. Is there any reason I need to look at anything other than a very basic Blu-Ray player? The Denon does 4K upscaling. The projector does 2D to 3D conversion. The Apple TV streams just about everything that any blu-ray player would stream. What would a high-end Oppo BDP-103 offer me that a entry level Blu-ray player would not? Is there a reason to pay $500 for an Oppo vs. $120 for a 3D sony Blu-Ray player? I'm not opposed to paying for a $500 blu-ray player if it offers superior performance in some way.
post #15592 of 16490
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Originally Posted by at4iowa View Post

I have a Denon AVR 4520CI receiver and am looking for a new Blu-Ray player. I also have Apple TV and a Sony VPL HW50ES sitting in a box waiting to be installed. Is there any reason I need to look at anything other than a very basic Blu-Ray player? The Denon does 4K upscaling. The projector does 2D to 3D conversion. The Apple TV streams just about everything that any blu-ray player would stream. What would a high-end Oppo BDP-103 offer me that a entry level Blu-ray player would not? Is there a reason to pay $500 for an Oppo vs. $120 for a 3D sony Blu-Ray player? I'm not opposed to paying for a $500 blu-ray player if it offers superior performance in some way.
It all depends on if you need the extra features that Oppo offers (DVD-A, etc.). If you're just going to use it for Blu-ray and DVD playback, the Sony 5100 would work fine for you.

S~
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Originally Posted by at4iowa View Post

I have a Denon AVR 4520CI receiver and am looking for a new Blu-Ray player. I also have Apple TV and a Sony VPL HW50ES sitting in a box waiting to be installed. Is there any reason I need to look at anything other than a very basic Blu-Ray player? The Denon does 4K upscaling. The projector does 2D to 3D conversion. The Apple TV streams just about everything that any blu-ray player would stream. What would a high-end Oppo BDP-103 offer me that a entry level Blu-ray player would not? Is there a reason to pay $500 for an Oppo vs. $120 for a 3D sony Blu-Ray player? I'm not opposed to paying for a $500 blu-ray player if it offers superior performance in some way.

AppleTV doesn't stream Amazon if that's applicable (which sucks). I have an S790 and find Netflix PQ better than AppleTV (but I do prefer ATV interface for Netflix). I'm a Prime member so wanted the Amazon streaming.

I think Sony can stream from NAS, etc. which AppleTV can't without jailbreak, etc. (real pain these days with no untethered boots and the frequent updates)

If you want 3D, I'd buy a 3D player

I was going to buy Oppo and couldn't justify double price of S790. Only reason I'd choose the Oppo would be if I wanted the improved audio. FWIW, I chose 790 over 590 (latter now replace by 1100, I think), because of the dual core processor. Resolutions are increasing, better sound formats keep coming out, streaming is getting better. I figured $100 extra for dual-core would probably be a better bet

Very happy with the S790 (have 4311Ci BTW)
post #15594 of 16490
Sony players support DLNA but don't support CIFS (SMB) or NFS, so they can't connect directly to a NAS unless the NAS includes a DLNA server. The BDP-S590 was replaced by the BDP-S5100. (90 --> 100). I've seen one report that the 5100 is faster at loading discs than the 790.
post #15595 of 16490
So, I see most of the discussion is around the Oppo 103 and the Sony players. Are there good/better choices from other brands that I should be considering?
post #15596 of 16490
I am looking at these 2 blu-ray players. The Pioneer Elite BDP-53FD or the Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD. I am not sure which model is the latest model though. I think the BDP-53FD is their latest model.

Anyone have either model or experience both players? I mainly use the player for blu-ray movies, DVD movies and 2 Channel music in SACD discs. Are both players load the blu-ray disc about the same speed?

I would never use any of the online services such as Netflix, Pandora, etc.

Thanks for any advice!
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Panasonic is the other one heavily recommended. I had an old BD-55. Replaced with Sony. Panny worked great (for it's age), but was about 4 years old, really slow to load disks and virtually no apps, so was just time to buy something faster and newer

A friend bought Sony and I liked it. Sony players can supposedly take advantage of expanded color gamut in "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray titles. (Note this isn't 4K res, just a BD mastered from 4K: most are done from 2K.) Certainly if you have a Sony TV, but I *think* also if you have something that supports DeepColor (http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1368009902)
post #15598 of 16490

blu-ray player question

i currently have a dvd player that works well.. but i want to upgrade to a blu-ray player.. one requirement is that it must have a usb port and play divx, mp4, etc files.. a friend said a playstation does it, but i have no intention on playing video games

 

can someone recommend one (amazon if possible please) in the $100 +/- range please

 

thanks for the help!

post #15599 of 16490
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Originally Posted by cadmaster77 View Post

i currently have a dvd player that works well.. but i want to upgrade to a blu-ray player.. one requirement is that it must have a usb port and play divx, mp4, etc files.. a friend said a playstation does it, but i have no intention on playing video games

can someone recommend one (amazon if possible please) in the $100 +/- range please

thanks for the help!
LG is probably your best bet.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

[quote name="cadmaster77" url="/t/959985/official-help-me-choose-a-player-thread-cant-decide-start-here/15570#post_23788487"]i currently have a dvd player that works well.. but i want to upgrade to a blu-ray player.. one requirement is that it must have a usb port and play divx, mp4, etc files.. a friend said a playstation does it, but i have no intention on playing video gamescan someone recommend one (amazon if possible please) in the $100 +/- range pleasethanks for the help![/quote]LG is probably your best bet.

LG has broad file format support, but their players are buggy and unreliable. After owning two LG players, I would suggest staying far away.

Many players support Xvid but not Divx. I would suggest getting a Sony player, which will play Xvid .avi, .mp4, mpeg and other standard formats. You'll need to convert Divx files, but that's generally going to be less of an inconvenience than owning an LG.
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