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post #15631 of 16455
I don't know if other players have something similar, but for OPPO there is a free software mod that will unlock the player for DVD regions. This does not work for Blu-ray though, and that does require a hardware mod.

Another twist to multi-region: make sure the player handles PAL 50hz discs. This is essential for imported DVDs. 50hz is not as common on imported Blu-rays, but neither is it rare.

If your display does not accept 50hz make sure the player converts 50 to 60hz.

-Bill
post #15632 of 16455
I have been out of the HT loop for quite some time and am looking for a new BD player. My wants/needs are quite simple.....

Pandora, Netflix and Amazon Prime are the only apps I care about. I want to be able to load an MP4 file onto a USB stick and plug it into the player and play my recorded videos. It needs to play MP4 and AVI files from a USB stick.

I'm sure the Audio and Video capabilities are much better than my old DMP55 so that is not a concern.
Edited by Highside - 10/29/13 at 12:33pm
post #15633 of 16455
Any thoughts on how the new Xbox ONE will be as both a BD player, and upscaling regular DVD movies?
post #15634 of 16455

Player that does DVD-A and ALL blu-rays?

Hey all, I purchased the Panny DB10 a few years ago because it had support for DVD-A...but it only plays about a third of the discs I put in it ("resolution error" on the rest)

Is there a new one someone could recommend that actually does DVD-A AND the function it's made for? smile.gif

Thanks,
post #15635 of 16455
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Originally Posted by lowella View Post

Hey all, I purchased the Panny DB10 a few years ago because it had support for DVD-A...but it only plays about a third of the discs I put in it ("resolution error" on the rest)

Is there a new one someone could recommend that actually does DVD-A AND the function it's made for? smile.gif

Thanks,

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The Sonys play SACD, not DVD-A's. The player that will handle that is an Oppo BDP-103.

It's more expensive than the Sonys, $499, but if you need DVD-A's (and SACD's by the way) that play well, that's your player.
post #15636 of 16455
^^^

Sorry about that. You're right, DVD-A is a no go on Sony.

Is there a region free Oppo?
post #15637 of 16455
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

^^^

Sorry about that. You're right, DVD-A is a no go on Sony.

Is there a region free Oppo?

There is a free software mod to make OPPO region free for DVD, but Blu-ray requires a hardware mod.

-Bill
post #15638 of 16455
Looking for recommendations for my first BR player. Current setup is a Panny P60ST50 smart plasma, Yamaha A1010, AT&T U-verse box, and a Sony 5 disc DVD player. My Panny has all of the Hulu/Netflix/etc that I could need (and don't use), and I use Pandora and internet radio through my A1010. My main critieria for the BR player is PQ and upscaling of DVDs. Budget is around $100. I was looking at the Panny BDT230 or the Sony S5100, but am open for suggestions. Thoughts? Does any of them stand out as the better upscaler of DVDs?
post #15639 of 16455
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Originally Posted by buening82 View Post

Looking for recommendations for my first BR player. Current setup is a Panny P60ST50 smart plasma, Yamaha A1010, AT&T U-verse box, and a Sony 5 disc DVD player. My Panny has all of the Hulu/Netflix/etc that I could need (and don't use), and I use Pandora and internet radio through my A1010. My main critieria for the BR player is PQ and upscaling of DVDs. Budget is around $100. I was looking at the Panny BDT230 or the Sony S5100, but am open for suggestions. Thoughts? Does any of them stand out as the better upscaler of DVDs?
Both are good choices. You honestly won't go wrong with either. My personal experience is that Panasonic has slightly better DVD scaling. If you use DNLA, I find Sony to be slightly better.

S~
post #15640 of 16455
Please help me choose between the sony s790 and the panny 500. I need dual hdmi outs. I am coming from the oppo 103. Will be used 100 % for bluray and 3d bluray.
post #15641 of 16455
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

Please help me choose between the sony s790 and the panny 500. I need dual hdmi outs. I am coming from the oppo 103. Will be used 100 % for bluray and 3d bluray.

It may not matter to you, but Sony has just removed access to Ci nemaNow (Best Buy's 1080p/Dolby Digital Plus) streaming service. Panasonic probably still has it as one of their apps. If I had known Sony was going to do that, I'd have gone with the Panasonic.
post #15642 of 16455
Looking to replace my Denon DBP-1611UD, the drive was becoming very noisy, especially with 3D discs. It is out of warranty but my credit card doubles the warranty, basically they will give me a cheque for the lesser amount of the repair estimate or the cost of the unit. In my case the repair estimate ended up cheaper and they will forward me a cheque for $318.98. It is up to me if I want to go ahead and fix my player or just buy a new one.

Should I repair or get a new one?

I'm leaning towards a new player for warranty alone as I only get a 3 month warranty for the repaired unit. I've narrowed it down to three players

option 1-Sony BDP-S790 which I have found for $199.00 plus taxes
option 2-Marantz UD5007 for $349.99 no tax -refurb
option 3-Oppo BDP-103D -$599 no tax

I really like the Sony for the price, I'll have some money left over, however I'm not liking it's form factor. It's small and I liked how large the Denon's chassis is, on my TV stand it keeps the wires out of sight. With the Sony in the stand those pesky wires will show.

The Marantz due to it being refurbished I could get for only a few $ more than what the insurance company will give me for repair. It's big chassis will look great in my TV stand. Also I was very satisfied with the load speeds of my Denon and I'm expecting the load speeds to be on par or better. The online streaming while not on par with the Sony will be much better than what is available on my Denon.

Or get the Oppo, which I will be out almost $300 out of pocket. I'm curious about the Darbee and like it's build quality. While not as big as the Marantz it's chassis size would look nicer in my TV stand than the Sony.

Current setup is a Samsung Plasma PN60E6500, Onkyo TX-NR3009 receiver and 7.1 PSB image and Velodyne Sub.
post #15643 of 16455
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Both are good choices. You honestly won't go wrong with either. My personal experience is that Panasonic has slightly better DVD scaling. If you use DNLA, I find Sony to be slightly better.

S~

Thanks!!!
post #15644 of 16455
Lots of good info in this thread, but looking for a few pointers I may have missed:

I've got a P65VT60 coming on Monday and need a 3D bluray player. The player will go straight to the TV, no AVR, but I would like plain stereo RCA outs to go to basic stereo amp/speakers. I'd like to be able to try vudu for streaming, and I'm interested in trying any 3D streaming services out there, but haven't turned up much. It looks like the TV and any player will do 2D Netflix and Amazon rentals. I would also like to be able to play the videos from my GoPro, which are .mp4 files. Is the sony 5100 the best bet?

Thanks!
post #15645 of 16455
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

Any thoughts on how the new Xbox ONE will be as both a BD player, and upscaling regular DVD movies?

Anyone have ideas? Or an inside scoop? For years, the PS3 because of it having a blu-ray player, had always been considered a top choice in this thread. But now, finally, the new Xbox ONE will have a BD player too - as well as a ton of other home theater features and software, as well as being able to play games quite well. If it plays BD movies, 3D as well (and hopefully dual HDMI for older receivers like the Sony/Panasonic), and does a great job of upscaling regular DVD movies - then this "ONE" box could replace 3-4 other items in your rack!
post #15646 of 16455
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

Anyone have ideas? Or an inside scoop? For years, the PS3 because of it having a blu-ray player, had always been considered a top choice in this thread. But now, finally, the new Xbox ONE will have a BD player too - as well as a ton of other home theater features and software, as well as being able to play games quite well. If it plays BD movies, 3D as well (and hopefully dual HDMI for older receivers like the Sony/Panasonic), and does a great job of upscaling regular DVD movies - then this "ONE" box could replace 3-4 other items in your rack!
Not yet. I have one on order. Whether or not I will use it as a one device HT solution will have to wait until it arrives.

S~
post #15647 of 16455
Well, since you ask for ideas and actual specs are hard to find....

As a disk player, I would think that it would be a standard bluray player, which would mean very good. Since there is not much difference among reasonably well implemented blurays, this should be a good player.

As a DVD upscaler, I would have less confidence on it being outstanding, since the inclusion of any disk capability seems like an afterthought. The main focus of this platform looks like gaming, streaming / TV feeds, Skype and browser integration. So I would expect it to be best at those.

There are other things current players include, like DLNA play, support of mutliple video and audio formats, etc. Have not seen any information on those.

The CPU is an AMD / x86 based platform, like the PS4, but is not quite as fast as the PS4's. Good amount of memory, connectivity, etc. But that begs our question - how good is it at handling movies either on disk, streamed or on a drive (USB, DLNA, etc.). From the marketing push, I think streaming is being emphasized, disk play was included for completeness and NAS or drive support is unclear.

Looks great as a gaming / streaming platform though. The skype tie in looks fun. If you're interested in the best movie playing, I'd hold back until a few sacrificial lam.... I mean early adopters review it.
post #15648 of 16455
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Well, since you ask for ideas and actual specs are hard to find.... As a disk player, I would think that it would be a standard bluray player, which would mean very good. Since there is not much difference among reasonably well implemented blurays, this should be a good player. As a DVD upscaler, I would have less confidence on it being outstanding, since the inclusion of any disk capability seems like an afterthought. The main focus of this platform looks like gaming, streaming / TV feeds, Skype and browser integration. So I would expect it to be best at those. There are other things current players include, like DLNA play, support of mutliple video and audio formats, etc. Have not seen any information on those. The CPU is an AMD / x86 based platform, like the PS4, but is not quite as fast as the PS4's. Good amount of memory, connectivity, etc. But that begs our question - how good is it at handling movies either on disk, streamed or on a drive (USB, DLNA, etc.). From the marketing push, I think streaming is being emphasized, disk play was included for completeness and NAS or drive support is unclear. Looks great as a gaming / streaming platform though. The skype tie in looks fun. If you're interested in the best movie playing, I'd hold back until a few sacrificial lam.... I mean early adopters review it.

Thank you, all excellent points. Time will tell. Would be nice though, if either the ONE or the PS4 could become the all in "ONE" solution.
post #15649 of 16455
PS4, as of now, is not the all in one solution. No DLNA or CD playback.

S~
post #15650 of 16455
I wanted an affordable decent quality wifi player and was ready to buy a Sony BDP-S5100 and then I saw it is not flat on top(?) so I cannot easily use it. What is a comparable unit that will stack?
post #15651 of 16455
Not perfectly flat, but I have no problem setting other components on top. The other options suck.
post #15652 of 16455

Best blu ray around 100?

Trying to piece together a decent setup I will be using it with a Samsung 7100 series 75" TV. Ive been looking at the Sony BDP-S5100. Is it a good one? Any other opinions/thoughts?
post #15653 of 16455
I'm looking for a new player. Here's what I need:

1 Decode HD formats internally (receiver is a Marantz SR7001 only HDMI 1.2) and output as LPCM 5.1
2 wifi
3 Stream Netflix in 1080p and output the Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 signal as LPCM 5.1 (due to old receiver)
4 Picture quality equal to chromecast
5 DVD upscaling Picture quality as good as my current Sony s550

My main reason for upgrading is for #3. I have a chromecast and it is not working out due to my receiver not decoding DD+.

Thanks!
Mark
post #15654 of 16455
Panasonic BDT230 has internal decoders.

S~
post #15655 of 16455
I sold my oppo 103 and darbee in plans to buy the new 103d oppo. Now that Ive sold my oppo I am wondering about this question. Please help.

I only watch bluray 3d and bluray 2d. I do not do Netflix of any of the other streaming. Would I loose anything if I went with the sony s790? I do plan on buying the next oppo when 4k content is out and I move to a 4k pj. For now I don't want to invest 600 in a 103d if Im not gaining anything for what I watch.
post #15656 of 16455
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I sold my oppo 103 and darbee in plans to buy the new 103d oppo. Now that Ive sold my oppo I am wondering about this question. Please help.

I only watch bluray 3d and bluray 2d. I do not do Netflix of any of the other streaming. Would I loose anything if I went with the sony s790? I do plan on buying the next oppo when 4k content is out and I move to a 4k pj. For now I don't want to invest 600 in a 103d if Im not gaining anything for what I watch.

The Sony S790 is as good as the Oppo, it has 16 bit processing, which the Oppo does not. The S5100 uses Triluminous color which the S790 or Oppo doesn't. I found that both deliver a picture on my Samsun 60" 6300 TV almost 4K like.
post #15657 of 16455
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Originally Posted by HDPERSON View Post

The Sony S790 is as good as the Oppo, it has 16 bit processing, which the Oppo does not. The S5100 uses Triluminous color which the S790 or Oppo doesn't. I found that both deliver a picture on my Samsun 60" 6300 TV almost 4K like.


The Sony is very good and should give great performance with blurays. Not sure what 16 bit processing you're describing, The 103 / 105 / 103D's are based on a dual core SoC processor and multiple graphical processors. It is more than fast enough to do the work required.

Triluminous color is a new display technology, not a player technology, so you are not going to get to use it unless you buy a new Sony display (Models 65X900, 55X900 and 55W900). This is a new way of using backlighting for pixels by coating a blue led (as opposed to a white) with nanocrystals that produce possibly brighter colors.

These TVs are starting to come out, so they should be interesting to see; this technology is a new way to do backlighting. It is not, however a player technology, since it is internal to the TV. Since all bluray players have to output video as dictated by a known specification (Rec.709), I don't see how this could be supported at the player.

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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I sold my oppo 103 and darbee in plans to buy the new 103d oppo. Now that Ive sold my oppo I am wondering about this question. Please help.

I only watch bluray 3d and bluray 2d. I do not do Netflix of any of the other streaming. Would I loose anything if I went with the sony s790? I do plan on buying the next oppo when 4k content is out and I move to a 4k pj. For now I don't want to invest 600 in a 103d if Im not gaining anything for what I watch.

The Sony should give you good performance; you already know the performance of the Oppo. If you want to wait for the next Oppo and your use is mostly (or only) blu, then any good player is probably a good choice.
Edited by hernanu - 11/6/13 at 12:02pm
post #15658 of 16455
I just had my Oppo BDP-95 in for Servicing and it got me thinking about upgrading in the next little while. I originally purchased the 95 as opposed to the 93 because I wanted a high quality audio source. That is no longer a requirement.

My primary use would be to play video through my server via DLNA. Secondary consideration would be playback of Blu-Rays. Third, I wouldn't mind if it looked good smile.gif Sound output would be stereo via RCA or XLR cables.

Is there a player that is significantly better than the rest in DLNA playback? e.g. more file formats supported.
that is also a competent Blu-Ray player.
post #15659 of 16455
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Originally Posted by riffer View Post

I just had my Oppo BDP-95 in for Servicing and it got me thinking about upgrading in the next little while. I originally purchased the 95 as opposed to the 93 because I wanted a high quality audio source. That is no longer a requirement.

My primary use would be to play video through my server via DLNA. Secondary consideration would be playback of Blu-Rays. Third, I wouldn't mind if it looked good smile.gif Sound output would be stereo via RCA or XLR cables.

Is there a player that is significantly better than the rest in DLNA playback? e.g. more file formats supported.
that is also a competent Blu-Ray player.

Well, the best in file format support are the Oppos; they also have great DLNA playback. If you don't need the 95 (great player by the way), then you don't need the 105, which would give you the best possible analog stereo connections. The 103 (500) or 103D ( 600, if you want the integrated Darbee) both have very good analog outs.

Another plus is that the 10X's have SMB capabilities to access network drives as an alternative to using DLNA.

If you have the ISO capable firmware, you can probably get what you paid for the 95 or more and if not, probably about the same or one or two hundred less. So stepping to the 103's is probably a good step. If you do have the ISO firmware and value that, you will lose that no matter which player you pick.

There are other analog capable players, they don't have the Sabre DAC's, but I think the new Panasonics still have analog stereo outputs, don't think the Sony 5100 does, but the Sony 790 should.
Edited by hernanu - 11/7/13 at 6:38am
post #15660 of 16455
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Well, the best in file format support are the Oppos; they also have great DLNA playback. If you don't need the 95 (great player by the way), then you don't need the 105, which would give you the best possible analog stereo connections. The 103 (500) or 103D ( 600, if you want the integrated Darbee) both have very good analog outs.

Another plus is that the 10X's have SMB capabilities to access network drives as an alternative to using DLNA.

If you have the ISO capable firmware, you can probably get what you paid for the 95 or more and if not, probably about the same or one or two hundred less. So stepping to the 103's is probably a good step. If you do have the ISO firmware and value that, you will lose that no matter which player you pick.

There are other analog capable players, they don't have the Sabre ADC's, but I think the new Panasonics still have analog stereo outputs, don't think the Sony 5100 does, but the Sony 790 should.

Thanks; I suspected the Oppo was quite good. I'll have to research SMB and see if it is worth upgrading sooner than later. No ISO firmware on the 95. Fortunately, I haven't ripped a lot to that format. Mostly MKV, which is currently having it's own problems with the new Oppo firmware.
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