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post #15961 of 16478
OK I have a Pioneer SC -65 , what Bluray player would be a good suggestion for 2d&3D ??
post #15962 of 16478
Confirmed my 3803 has the sub/LFE boost option. I'll grab one of the BD55K Panny's, some RCA's from Monoprice and see how things go. Thanks, everyone.
post #15963 of 16478
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Originally Posted by rayvd View Post

Confirmed my 3803 has the sub/LFE boost option. I'll grab one of the BD55K Panny's, some RCA's from Monoprice and see how things go. Thanks, everyone.
The BD55 was a fine player in its day, still is of course. But are you sure you want to buy a player that went out of production 5 years ago?
post #15964 of 16478
Not at all! (one of the reasons I posted here). Open to another (newer) player with analog audio outs as well... just not seeing too many other than the older Panasonic and Sony's.
post #15965 of 16478
Why not go with the Panasonic BDT500?

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post #15966 of 16478
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Why not go with the Panasonic BDT500?

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Nice. Thanks for the pointer.
post #15967 of 16478
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Originally Posted by rayvd View Post

Nice. Thanks for the pointer.
No problem. You'll get much faster loading times and streaming apps like NF, Amazon etc. all for less than the 35 when it came out.

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post #15968 of 16478
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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

OK I have a Pioneer SC -65 , what Bluray player would be a good suggestion for 2d&3D ??

There are several possibilities. The simple answer is either the Sony S5100 or the Panasonic 230.

Are you just interested in playing blurays, are you also interested in streaming movies from Netflix, etc... do you want DLNA support?

Some of these will have an impact, but if you mostly want bluray play, those are good choices.
post #15969 of 16478
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

OK I have a Pioneer SC -65 , what Bluray player would be a good suggestion for 2d&3D ??

There are several possibilities. The simple answer is either the Sony S5100 or the Panasonic 230.

Are you just interested in playing blurays, are you also interested in streaming movies from Netflix, etc... do you want DLNA support?

Some of these will have an impact, but if you mostly want bluray play, those are good choices.

Are you giving me these choices because the SC65 has strong Video and Audio capabilities ?
post #15970 of 16478
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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

Are you giving me these choices because the SC65 has strong Video and Audio capabilities ?

The SC 65 is a very good receiver.

If you're choosing a bluray player, unless the receiver is older and needs analog inputs, the assumption is that you are going to use bitstream for your audio transmission format. If that's true, and you're outputting 1080p for your video resolution, then the choice of receiver is not an issue.

With bitstreaming, your receiver will be responsible for your audio processing. It can also process video, but that should not be necessary since with Bluray, or really with DVD as well, the output signal from the player will be as good or better than the receiver can do.

I shut off all video processing in my receiver (a Pioneer Elite VSX-33) since my Oppo BDP-83 outperforms it on video. With bluray, the signal is as good as it can get, so any further processing may complicate things.

So the choices are good for basic bluray play. I have other needs in music and local area network file sharing, so an Oppo BDP-103D would be my choice, but you mentioned bluray, and these players would do you well.
post #15971 of 16478
Folks, currently running a Sony BDP-N460 Bluray and an Oppo DV-971H (for UK DVDs) into an non-HDMI Sony AVR, to a brand new Panny 65VT60.

Watching more and more streamed Amazon and Netflix so quality of these is important. Currently have big issues with netflix thru the Sony, so hopefully the newer apps will work better as they do with the TV.

Anyway, no 3D on the Sony. So need a new player but not sure as to what I should get as want quality, but unclear w/Bluray as to the law of diminishing returns i.e. will a $54 DMP-BDT225 give me 95% of the performance of an Oppo 103?

Also, region free would be nice - any experience with this Panny? Note the two models called BDT230...huh?

http://www.amazon.com/PANASONIC-BDT230-Network-Region-Player/dp/B00CELFLA2/ref=sr_1_22?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1387771595&sr=1-22&keywords=bluray+3d

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMP-BDT230-Smart-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B00AYB3OMG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1387813572&sr=1-1&keywords=DMP-BDT230

The more I look, the more I read the more I am thinking of the Sony 5100 - but is there a big video quality jump to the S790?

Would appreciate some feedback, thanks!
post #15972 of 16478
When you compare lower end players with higher end players, there is no jump in video quality (at least not for BluRay discs - they will all look the same). What you are primarily paying for with higher end players is analog audio quality (and other features such as dual HDMI outs, HDMI inputs, etc). You won't see any video difference between those 2 Sony players.
post #15973 of 16478
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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

Are you giving me these choices because the SC65 has strong Video and Audio capabilities ?

The SC 65 is a very good receiver.

If you're choosing a bluray player, unless the receiver is older and needs analog inputs, the assumption is that you are going to use bitstream for your audio transmission format. If that's true, and you're outputting 1080p for your video resolution, then the choice of receiver is not an issue.

With bitstreaming, your receiver will be responsible for your audio processing. It can also process video, but that should not be necessary since with Bluray, or really with DVD as well, the output signal from the player will be as good or better than the receiver can do.

I shut off all video processing in my receiver (a Pioneer Elite VSX-33) since my Oppo BDP-83 outperforms it on video. With bluray, the signal is as good as it can get, so any further processing may complicate things.

So the choices are good for basic bluray play. I have other needs in music and local area network file sharing, so an Oppo BDP-103D would be my choice, but you mentioned bluray, and these players would do you well.

I actually have just bought a Darbee a few weeks ago, and now looking like you know, for a Bluray Player with 3D . I just learned about the Oppo 103D 2 days ago??

Darbee alone came to 366.00+ and was thinking of the Sony S790(200.00) ,.... Almost same price as the 103D ??
Since i would like a Darbee , if I could get a refund for the Darbee would'nt it be smart to just get the 103D for the price difference ???
post #15974 of 16478
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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

I actually have just bought a Darbee a few weeks ago, and now looking like you know, for a Bluray Player with 3D . I just learned about the Oppo 103D 2 days ago??

Darbee alone came to 366.00+ and was thinking of the Sony S790(200.00) ,.... Almost same price as the 103D ??
Since i would like a Darbee , if I could get a refund for the Darbee would'nt it be smart to just get the 103D for the price difference ???

Why not just get the Sony 5100?
post #15975 of 16478
So i will get just as good a picture on 2d,3d blurays and dvd with the 5100 as a Oppo103 ?
And how about the audio 5.1, Stereo when the SC 65 does the proccesing compared to the Oppo

Why are people raving about the oppo and S790 PQ&SQ ??
post #15976 of 16478
That's not exactly what I said. I said that (assuming you don't add processing with the player, which you shouldn't - it should be done by the display), then PQ will look the same for BluRay discs, but there can be PQ differences for upscaled SD DVDs. For digital audio quality, they will all be the same (your receiver does the work). For analog audio, that's where the major differences are. I went with the Oppo 105 for the analog audio. Others went for it for the HDMI inputs (letting the Oppo process all equipment, including cables box outputs). If all you want to do is use HDMI for PQ and AQ, and play shiny discs, and stream Netflix, then go with the 5100.
post #15977 of 16478
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

When you compare lower end players with higher end players, there is no jump in video quality (at least not for BluRay discs - they will all look the same). What you are primarily paying for with higher end players is analog audio quality (and other features such as dual HDMI outs, HDMI inputs, etc). You won't see any video difference between those 2 Sony players.

Thank you. Looking like the 5100 will do it - hopefully I won't have the same problems with Netflix as before.
post #15978 of 16478
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Originally Posted by randyc1 View Post

So i will get just as good a picture on 2d,3d blurays and dvd with the 5100 as a Oppo103 ?
And how about the audio 5.1, Stereo when the SC 65 does the proccesing compared to the Oppo

Why are people raving about the oppo and S790 PQ&SQ ??

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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

That's not exactly what I said. I said that (assuming you don't add processing with the player, which you shouldn't - it should be done by the display), then PQ will look the same for BluRay discs, but there can be PQ differences for upscaled SD DVDs. For digital audio quality, they will all be the same (your receiver does the work). For analog audio, that's where the major differences are. I went with the Oppo 105 for the analog audio. Others went for it for the HDMI inputs (letting the Oppo process all equipment, including cables box outputs). If all you want to do is use HDMI for PQ and AQ, and play shiny discs, and stream Netflix, then go with the 5100.

Bill put it well. If you already have a Darbee, then it is fine to get the Sony or another player if:

  1. You play mainly bluray
  2. Are not as interested in DVD upscaling
  3. Don't have a problem with having multiple boxes
  4. Don't need to use the Oppo as a video processor for other signals (cable box, satellite box) through its HDMI inputs.
  5. Don't need or want analog outputs.
  6. Don't need its extensive coverage of media files and disks (DVD-A, SACD, Flac, a long list of video media files).
  7. Excellent service and build quality.

If it were me (and I don't have the cadillac of Oppos in the 105), then I would return the Darbee and get the 103D. You've already committed to 360+ to the Darbee, the 103D costs 600, which would mean you're paying 240 for the bluray portion and you have an Oppo.

It's upgradeitis logic, but in this case, in my opinion only, it makes sense.
post #15979 of 16478
Yes i agree , if i get a refund for the Darbee, i'll just get the Oppo 103D and be done with it for years !!,

...If no refund , i'll go for a Sony S790 or S5100.
post #15980 of 16478

3D player that plays the neo:x audio

I'm so lost with this.

I have the Denon 4520 avr, 70" 550a sony tv, but finding a blu ray player other than the oppo 103d that seems tp cover my needs is driving me crazy.

I had the sony 790, but took it back. For the money, I thought my old fat ps3 was better. So now im stuck getting my next blu ray player at best-buy, got stuck with a gift card on the return.

So. I'm thinking of just getting the sony 5100 blu ray player, and the roku 3 for streaming my personal content from my nas and pc system.

If I'm missing something, please help guild me. With all these HD-DTS audio master this and that. I dont know what will do what.

Thanks for any help
post #15981 of 16478
Maybe post in a Denon forum. If your Denon can decode neo:x and the other formats, then any 3D player will work. I have no idea what your Denon can or can't do.

What about Oppo makes it the only player that meets your specs? I don't see any mention of upconverting or analog audio which are the main reasons to get Oppo. And why do you need a Roku for streaming when the players you're considering can stream files perfectly well?
Edited by mdavej - 12/26/13 at 12:32pm
post #15982 of 16478

Hey guys. I'm looking for the best blu ray player for my situation. I have a 60" Vizio with a really good picture and has the apps loaded. So I'm looking for a player that has really good picture quality. I rather have a model without all the bells and whistles for more performance. I have apps in the teley, so that's one thing the player doesn't have to do. I don't have 3D, so I don't need that either. I don't care if its an older model.The one I read about that kinda fits the descriptions is the Panasonic DMP-BDT220

post #15983 of 16478
First let me apologize for this thread. "3D player that plays the neo:x audio" Not where I meant to put it. That's what happens when using my tablet.

As for the streaming. I did get the wd tv live today. This one is a keeper. I think it even out does my old fat ps3. Even getting the 7.1 audio rips from my nas. As for the sony blu ray players streaming. To picky for me. I don't mind transcoding on an occasion. But even the sony s5100 player doesn't do as good as the ps3. Which i'm ok with, except the one I got today, seems the drive is way off balance. When it spins up a disc, it sounds like its going to take off. Seems I've heard of a few other people running across something similar. So I may try another s5100 or try the panny dmp-bdt500. I don't really know anything about it. Except its one of the few that still have 7.1 analog output. I've been wanting to give that a try. Then again, I may give the sony another shot though. It actually looks pretty good sitting under my tv. The picture is great, and so it the sound. Except for that noisy disc drive. I wish I had the patience to save up for the oppo......
post #15984 of 16478
I'm looking for a <$200 blu-ray player that is the best in its class in streaming. Especially Vudu and Hulu Plus. My Panasonic BDT220 does the job ok but seems to crash in Hulu Plus playback, rebooting the player. Video quality is important as well, all around.
post #15985 of 16478

any blu ray players (other than PS3) that support netflix profiles?

Are there any blu ray players that today support netflix profiles? I'm in the market for a new player but really want this feature. I've searched quite a bit and only found comments about possible future updates. Any devices have this now?

thanks!
post #15986 of 16478
Sony does, not sure about others.
post #15987 of 16478

I've just purchased the Panasonic ST60 Plasma TV. I'm looking for a blu-ray player with good 2D and 3D capability and quality, good up-scaling of SD content, and compatibility with any sound system I might buy. DLNA and streaming are not important.

post #15988 of 16478
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Originally Posted by ChooseLucky View Post

I've just purchased the Panasonic ST60 Plasma TV. I'm looking for a blu-ray player with good 2D and 3D capability and quality, good up-scaling of SD content, and compatibility with any sound system I might buy. DLNA and streaming are not important.
Price range? The Sony 5100 and Panny 230 are very popular basic 3D players. If you want higher end (with analog audio, SACD, etc), the Oppo 103.
post #15989 of 16478

Anyone with a sony blu-Ray player that uses avi files over dlna?

My vizio TV has a narrow selection of what it supports natively over dlna, so I have been ripping all my DVD's and blu-ray's to work with it. I'd like to get a blu-ray player that will work with the same files without transcoding for my older TV that doesn't support DLNA at all.

My files are avi container with H264 and xvid video codec, some with mp3 audio codec (converted older mp4 files) but most with AC3 5.1 or 2 channel. My Vizio plays these all natively and so far, work well with my serviio profile I've been tinkering with without transcoding so as to keep my PC from getting crushed and allows me to ffwd/frwd. When transcoding, I can't ffwd/frwd.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #15990 of 16478
^^^^^^^

You may also ask in the dedicated Sony thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1450585/official-sony-bdp-s1100-bdp-s3100-and-bdp-s5100/2130

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