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post #7381 of 15133
I have to admit that Netflix capability would be nice. The BP60 does not seem to have that (though it seems to have BD Live, isn't that the same thing?) but the Insignia NS-BRDVD3 does. They both seem to be in the same price range. Does anyone have any recommendation between the two (or in favor of another similarly priced player that may be better than both)? My last two DVD players lasted only about 3 years before dying and it would be nice to find a reliable Blu-ray player that will make it more than a couple of years.
post #7382 of 15133
I have done alot of reading here (probably about 8 hours) on blu-ray players on AVS. I appreciate all of the input and the great info you guys provide. My head is spinning.

I am trying to narrow down my choices. This is all I need:

1) All data over HDMI
2) No bitstreaming, unless I can be convinced otherwise for SQ
3) Good DVD playback
4) No analog outputs needed

I thought I had settled on the Panny BD60 until I started reading about Pioneer 320 and 51FD having better DVD PQ.

Thus, I think I am settling on the 120 Pioneer. I am a Pioneer guy, but not an elitest bastard. My current AVR is VSX-23THX...my previous was a 54TX.

But, I cannot find anything in terms of PQ for standard DVDs on the 120 vs the 320, etc. The 320 is not that much more expensive than the 120 so if there is a difference in PQ I will pay for the 320. I am assuming the main difference between these 2 players is basically the analog outs and PQ is equal.....

Or, is there something "better" with the minimal requirements I need?

Or, should I get the Panny and a standalone DVD player? Would a standalone DVD player produce a better picture than the 120 or 320 for SD? One question: I see upconverting DVD players now to 1080P....why would anybody need that if their TV will do that for them?

Thanks.
post #7383 of 15133
Give the Sony BDP N460 a look, it seems to be pretty good quality and it streams more content than any other player by far. It's on sale at Best Buy and you may even find it for less if you shop around.
post #7384 of 15133
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Originally Posted by maggiefan View Post

Give the Sony BDP N460 a look, it seems to be pretty good quality and it streams more content than any other player by far. It's on sale at Best Buy and you may even find it for less if you shop around.

This player is advertized as being 1080/24p capable, but it unclear if it is capable of doing that in a DVD upconvert. Does anyone know if it can? Otherwise, it would appear that the Panny BD80 is the one for me, if and when it becomes available again.
post #7385 of 15133
I have just had a frustrating experience where I asked Netflix to send me another copy of the BD, "Galapagos" because I was not able to watch several portions because my Panasonic DMP BD60 couldn't handle what seemed to be minor scratches on the surface. This is my third rental BD in the last 6 months (35 or so BDs) that has had such an issue. Besides the single disc loading test that Consumer Reports makes, I have seen no other attempts to compare BD players on their abilities to play damaged discs Is there anybody who can help on this issue? I am especially interested in hearing from owners of several models who were able to get a disc to play perfectly by switching players. Thanks.
post #7386 of 15133
Hi All,
Long time happy h/k 635 (no HDMI) owner here looking at Blue-ray players.
What advantage would running analog 7.1 cables from the blue-ray player to the HK 635 have over the digital audio connections?
post #7387 of 15133
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Originally Posted by acex2 View Post

Hi All,
Long time happy h/k 635 (no HDMI) owner here looking at Blue-ray players.
What advantage would running analog 7.1 cables from the blue-ray player to the HK 635 have over the digital audio connections?

Analog will let you hear the lossless HD audio (Dolby TrueHD, DTS-MA) from your Blu-ray Discs. Digital will limit you to lossy DD and DTS (but at higher-than-DVD bitrates that can sound very close to lossless).

If there is a receiver upgrade in your relatively-near future, I would personally not recommend paying extra for analog, since the improvement is subtle and you won't need it after you have HDMI. If you plan to keep the HK, then you might as well spend the money for analog and know you're getting the best audio available from consumer media.
post #7388 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Jeffredo View Post

I tried a Vizio profile 2.0 player from Wal-Mart. Its made by Desay, like the Insignia is, and I wasn't very impressed with its Blu-Ray performance (froze quite a lot - every BR disc I tried in it) and its DVD upscaling was pretty poor. Plus the remote range and response time was horrible. That's not to say any/all of these things might affect the Insignia, but it would make me leery none the less.

Besides the remote range, I've had none of those issues with mine. Every disk has played flawlessly. I haven't seriously analyzed the upconversion, but it seems on par with my sony. But I don't blame you for being leery since you've been burned before. Good luck.
post #7389 of 15133
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Originally Posted by dan24678 View Post

Hello,

I am finally upgrading my home theater setup to HD and wanted to get some opinions on whether I should purchase a PS3 or a Samsung BD-P3600 to play Blu-Ray DVDs and HD-encoded Divx. First, some background on what I'm looking for.

I currently watch A LOT of divx and xvid avi's and mkv files. I have a network-attached hard-drive and a first-gen Xbox running XBMC. If anyone has ever used XBMC, then you know how amazing it is and how it has set the bar extremely high for all other media players. I will be retaining my first-gen Xbox to watch standard-def video files and have an Xbox 360 for gaming. Where XBMC on the first-gen Xbox falls short is that it cannot play 720p divx files. So I am looking at either the PS3 or the Samsung BD-P3600 for this purpose, as well as to play Blu-Ray DVDs themselves.

I already have a BD-P3600 in my bedroom and know that its media player is pretty flawed. It does not have a resume function (nor does it seem to have a resume for playing DVDs). Even worse, although it can stream standard def Divx files over my network, it chokes when you try to play a 720p file over the network if the file size exceeds 1 gig. So basically, if I have a 1.2 gig hi-def Divx file I want to watch on the BD-P3600, I need to put it on a DVD-R or thumb drive first.

Which brings us to the PS3. I have read that its support for mkv files is limited, but I'm not sure how well or how poorly it plays them over a network. It would be cool to have a PS3 for gaming, but my main reason for getting one, if I do choose a PS3, would be because it is a viable replacement for XBMC on the first-gen Xbox that can handle streaming 720p Divx/Xvid files (although this may not currently be the case).

Does anyone have firsthand experience with both of these units and can give me some advice? Again, my main considerations are Blu-Ray player quality and ability to stream multiple formats of Hi-Def video files seamlessly over my wireless (or wired) network. Price and the PS3's gaming functions don't really factor in that much.

Thanks,
Dan

I would like to "second" Dan's request for info and recommendations for a newer-model BD player that will stream multiple PC formats such as AVI and MKV (4-8gb in size) and that might have reliable uPNP support. Given the location, I am stuck w/ a wireless N connection - wired is not an option. And for me, BD playback is actually secondary to the streaming.

Okay, worst case, I am willing to load a 250Gb external USB drive with all my media and plug it into the back of the box, if that's the only reliable way to get it to the BD player, but I at least want native MKV, DIVX, etc. support so I don't have to reencode, remux, etc.

Thanks much!
post #7390 of 15133
So will the Panasonic BD60 stream MKV files over a wired network? If not, what unit will?
post #7391 of 15133
Is there a NetFlix compatible player whose picture quality (SD and HD) matches the Panasonic BD60 and is in the same price range. I already have a PS3 for living room but looking for a stand alone player for the home theater. Thnx!
post #7392 of 15133
My buddy got the Samsung 1600 last night and he said he's having problems with lip syncing, slow load time, he says its louder than the one in the store, menu was acting slow whenever he could finally get it to pop up. Basically I'm wondering what the best BD player is under $200 for PQ?? He doesn't care about netflix, or anything like that. Just has a 5.1 surround and the Panny S1. Any recommendations???


Panny BD60
Pioneer 51FD
Pioneer BDP120
JVCXVBP1

Any of the Sony's good?


Thanks guys!!
post #7393 of 15133
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseng View Post

is there a netflix compatible player whose picture quality (sd and hd) matches the panasonic bd60 and is in the same price range. I already have a ps3 for living room but looking for a stand alone player for the home theater. Thnx!

lg bd370
post #7394 of 15133
Hi guys,

Looking to pickup my first blu-ray player. Looks like there are literally 100+ on the market any suggestions?

Criteria:

- sub $200
- decodes HD audio formats (im running a HK AVR-247).
- looks good (will be exposed, not hidden in cabinet)

- dont care about streaming and dont need analog outs.


Basically, I just want something that will give me all the greatness im currently missing out on, and dont need anything super fancy. Whats the best bang for the buck sorta speak?
post #7395 of 15133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushtree View Post

Hi guys,

Looking to pickup my first blu-ray player. Looks like there are literally 100+ on the market any suggestions?

Criteria:

- sub $200
- decodes HD audio formats (im running a HK AVR-247).
- looks good (will be exposed, not hidden in cabinet)

- dont care about streaming and dont need analog outs.


Basically, I just want something that will give me all the greatness im currently missing out on, and dont need anything super fancy. Whats the best bang for the buck sorta speak?

Panasonic BD60
post #7396 of 15133
I have a 2550 and I'm running into a ton of issues with Bonusview on alot of new movies. Thinking of moving to a new player. Not really budget limited, but I want the best PQ possible. I don't use it for streaming, ethernet or anything else. I output via HDMI to my Denon AVR-788 with LPCM to get TrueHD and DTS HD, so I have to have the same functionality.

I have a 60PG30 and I'm mostly concerned with PQ. Menu speed, bootup, I just don't care. I want it to look good. Its in a recessed cabinet, but is quite a cool environment.
post #7397 of 15133
For those seeking additional feedback on streaming/pc media capabilities in BD players, you might find these threads of interest:

Is Streaming an Important Feature When Selecting a Blu-ray Player?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1180606

BD370/390 LG Blu-ray player Master/Owners thread
(The 390 has an impressive set of media player capabilities - link is towards the end of thread)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...24111&page=139

From my research so far (and please someone correct me if I'm wrong) the state of the art right now (for inexpensive BDs w/ a fairly rich set of streaming/PC networking/sharing capabilities - not just Netflix) seem to be limited to:

PS3
Samsung BDP3600
LG BD390

(and each reported to have their drawbacks)
post #7398 of 15133
Add the Sony BDP N460 to the list, it has more streaming choices than any other player out there.
post #7399 of 15133
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a standalone blu-ray or media player that can play native m2ts files. I have a PS3, but now I need a another player that can play these files.
post #7400 of 15133
Which is a better player.. JVC XV-BP10 or the JVC XV-BP1 ?

The BP1 appears to be nicer looking but that could be because I havent been able to locate a decent picture of the BP10 anywhere.

BP1 appears to be $20 more than the lowest for BP10..
post #7401 of 15133
Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a BR player to pair with a UN55B8000. I've narrowed my choices down to two units. The first one is the Panasonic DMPBD60 and the Samsung BDP3600. I'm just looking for a player with good playback PQ and firmware that's updated on the regular.

That being said, which model should I be looking at?

Thanks in advance...
post #7402 of 15133
I dumped the JVC from my list of choices and went with the Sony BDP-S560. I picked it up from J&R for $160 and it has a lot of features the JVC doesnt.
post #7403 of 15133
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Originally Posted by maggiefan View Post

Add the Sony BDP N460 to the list, it has more streaming choices than any other player out there.

From looking at the user manual, the BDP N460 does not seem to have the capability to play audio (mp3, etc.) or video (AVI/MKV) files direct from a local PC via a network connection, wired or wifi. It would seem it's streaming is limited to "selected Internet content and a variety of on-demand entertainment". Though it's hard for me to believe, it does not appear the n460 can even play MP3s from a USB device. (p37 user manual)

This would not put it in the same class as the PS3, Sammy or LG, which offer access to a whole different category of content.
post #7404 of 15133
Quote:
Originally Posted by EMAGDNIM View Post

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a BR player to pair with a UN55B8000. I've narrowed my choices down to two units. The first one is the Panasonic DMPBD60 and the Samsung BDP3600. I'm just looking for a player with good playback PQ and firmware that's updated on the regular.

That being said, which model should I be looking at?

Thanks in advance...

I own and highly recommend the BD60.
post #7405 of 15133
Quote:
Originally Posted by EMAGDNIM View Post

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a BR player to pair with a UN55B8000. I've narrowed my choices down to two units. The first one is the Panasonic DMPBD60 and the Samsung BDP3600. I'm just looking for a player with good playback PQ and firmware that's updated on the regular.

That being said, which model should I be looking at?

Thanks in advance...

I don't have either of those players but I do have a Panasonic 55, which is very much like the 60. My 55 has been an excellent performer and the BD PQ is excellent.

As for regular updates, well, Panasonic will beat Samsung on that handily.

Mike T
post #7406 of 15133
Great guys thanks...I'll poke through the Panasonic DMPBD60 thread some more!
post #7407 of 15133
I Finally setup an account. Been followin yall for quite some time now. Bunch of smart individual yall are. Now maybe you can help me please. Looking to get a blu ray player under 150 that has
USB Input
Can play mpeg movies from the usb
1080 upscaling for regular dvds
Now those are the most important, load up times not really a big issue for me.
Thanks yall, and happy holidays.
post #7408 of 15133
I NEED THE SLOWEST LOADING BEST DVD UPCONVERTING BLURAY PLAYER...

i dont need any features except put dvd or bd in player and watch, the end.

I say this because i noticed every post is 'i need the best upconverting, fastest loading, best quality, that plays netflix and that talks to me when i'm depressed'.

so please help me find a bluray player with the best dvd upconversion, i assume the bd playing will be as good as any other. I'd appreciate one u think fits my requirements or a few i should research.

THANKS!
post #7409 of 15133
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Originally Posted by mwasie View Post

I NEED THE SLOWEST LOADING BEST DVD UPCONVERTING BLURAY PLAYER...

i dont need any features except put dvd or bd in player and watch, the end.

I say this because i noticed every post is 'i need the best upconverting, fastest loading, best quality, that plays netflix and that talks to me when i'm depressed'.

so please help me find a bluray player with the best dvd upconversion, i assume the bd playing will be as good as any other. I'd appreciate one u think fits my requirements or a few i should research.

THANKS!

IBTL.... Oppo BD83
post #7410 of 15133
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

IBTL.... Oppo BD83

+1

If money is no object then get the Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD. It has even better DVD quality than my SDI + Lumagen combo!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1112343
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