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post #8731 of 15133
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

Does the sony 370/470 have the same internet services that the sony 460 has?

From what I've read (or remember reading) the only differences between the 370 and 470 is the 370 will not have 3d enabled this summer. And I think the wireless is a difference in the other models.

If you go to sony's website, I'm sure it will tell you... I'm going off memory.
post #8732 of 15133
I will eventually have an Emotiva UMC1 (as soon as it ships) but would like to go with a blue ray now. I have a older Sony receiver that has toslink and rca inputs (no hdmi). I would hate to spend the cash on a Blu Ray with features I'll never use... I think going Oppo is a bit overkill based on what I'm reading.

My priories are:

1) Be able to use my current Sony receiver and still get the same quality sound as when I buy the UMC1

2) Up scaling older DVD's

3) Being able to decode any reasonable widely used format I throw at it.

Thanks!
post #8733 of 15133
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

Does the sony 370/470 have the same internet services that the sony 460 has?

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Originally Posted by HTPC4Ever View Post

From what I've read (or remember reading) the only differences between the 370 and 470 is the 370 will not have 3d enabled this summer. And I think the wireless is a difference in the other models.

If you go to sony's website, I'm sure it will tell you... I'm going off memory.

I was asking the difference between the 370/470 and the 460 though. Ya the 3D upgrade is the difference between the 370 and 470. But the 460 is touted to have 25+ internet services (netflix, slacker, etc.) but do the 370 and 470 have those same services?

I think I will skip 3D for now, so I guess more over the difference between the 370 and 460 would help. I know the new players are fast booting up and loading a disc, but for the most part I would rather have more choices of net stuff then 10 seconds of my life back every time I play a bluray. Seems like most around here would rather have it boot fast then have expanded content, but then hay I like BD Live discs, EVEN if they could have just put that content on the discs themselves. I guess I am strange, lol.
post #8734 of 15133
I know this sounds odd but I'm looking for a bluray player that is less than 13in wide, needs to fit my current cabinet. I've searched everywhere and so far the only thing I thinks works is a PS3. any help appreciated
post #8735 of 15133
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Originally Posted by Stitz View Post

I know this sounds odd but I'm looking for a bluray player that is less than 13in wide, needs to fit my current cabinet. I've searched everywhere and so far the only thing I thinks works is a PS3. any help appreciated

Most of the standard widths on conponents is approx 17" The PS3 might be your only choice. It is 11.42" wide. I know how you feel. I had the same problem with my LCD TV and can only get a 46" in the cabinet.
post #8736 of 15133
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Originally Posted by mohmony View Post

I am moving away from PS3 BD Playback, My display is a 118 Inch Carada Screen.. But dont want to spend a lot considering the 3D/BD thing..

I need to have 7.1 Analog Outputs; I understand that Oppo's Bluray PQ is very close to the others.

Having said that - Any Alternative recommendations?
Req's --
(1). 7.1 Analog O/P
(2). Closer to PS3 Response Times
(3). Goodies like Netflix/DLNA.. (Not required, but dont mind having them)
Please note that iam not looking for any DVD/Multichannel Playback, since i already have Oppo DV-981 HD

okay -- So far seems like my choices are - Panasonic DMP-BD85K(No DLNA) and the other one is LG BD570 (Both Netflix n DLNA). Do you know how these two compare to the Oppo BD-80? As far as the Panny/LG - Which one offers the best PQ/AQ?
post #8737 of 15133
Is there a player that allows access to MLB.TV? I'm setting up a home theater system and the only things I want are Netflix, Blu Ray, and access to MLB.TV. I have a Wii so Netflix is (going to be) taken care of. I just can't find a way to access MLB.TV without a device like Roku which I don't even need.
post #8738 of 15133
Looking to add a blu-ray player to my set up, with the priority on upscaling DVD's. I am currently running a Toshiba HD-DVD to a Marantz VP4001 (720p PJ) projecting on a 159" Da-Lite Screen. I know my screen size is larger than recommended, but I am not a videophile, and the family really enjoys the "big screen" feel. Having said that, we have a sizable DVD collection that still get regular use, hence the focus on upscaling ability.

Narrowed down the options to Panny and Pio based on generally good reviews for upscaling capabilities. Likewise, I have not focused much on the Sony or LG products, as their strengths seem to be in features other than upscaling. Also not too concerned about streaming fetures as we have FIOS on-demand for that need.

Also, I just ordered a Denon 1910 which has the Anchor Bay 1310 chip which could be used for scaling, but I suspect either the Panny or Pio will do as good or better job.

Finally, I looked at the Oppo BD83 which is the king of upscalers, but does not seem worth $500 in my current set up (given that the Pio or Panny could be had for less than half the price). I'd rather get a sub-$200 BDP now, and possibly upgrade to the latest and greatest down the road when I eventually switch out the PJ for a 1080p PJ.

Looking for any additional advice, corrections, comparisons or other recommendations. Thanks again.
post #8739 of 15133
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Originally Posted by treads View Post

Looking to add a blu-ray player to my set up, with the priority on upscaling DVD's. I am currently running a Toshiba HD-DVD to a Marantz VP4001 (720p PJ) projecting on a 159" Da-Lite Screen. I know my screen size is larger than recommended, but I am not a videophile, and the family really enjoys the "big screen" feel. Having said that, we have a sizable DVD collection that still get regular use, hence the focus on upscaling ability.

Narrowed down the options to Panny and Pio based on generally good reviews for upscaling capabilities. Likewise, I have not focused much on the Sony or LG products, as their strengths seem to be in features other than upscaling. Also not too concerned about streaming fetures as we have FIOS on-demand for that need.

Also, I just ordered a Denon 1910 which has the Anchor Bay 1310 chip which could be used for scaling, but I suspect either the Panny or Pio will do as good or better job.

Finally, I looked at the Oppo BD83 which is the king of upscalers, but does not seem worth $500 in my current set up (given that the Pio or Panny could be had for less than half the price). I'd rather get a sub-$200 BDP now, and possibly upgrade to the latest and greatest down the road when I eventually switch out the PJ for a 1080p PJ.

Looking for any additional advice, corrections, comparisons or other recommendations. Thanks again.

Screen that size... in other words, you more than likely won't "go down in size" (significantly) in the future.

I'd go ahead and invest in the oppo 83... or at least order it through amazon and try it out. On my small screen I could not tell the difference, but let some here tell it, you will see a big difference.
post #8740 of 15133
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Originally Posted by SRR View Post

I was asking the difference between the 370/470 and the 460 though. Ya the 3D upgrade is the difference between the 370 and 470. But the 460 is touted to have 25+ internet services (netflix, slacker, etc.) but do the 370 and 470 have those same services?

I think I will skip 3D for now, so I guess more over the difference between the 370 and 460 would help. I know the new players are fast booting up and loading a disc, but for the most part I would rather have more choices of net stuff then 10 seconds of my life back every time I play a bluray. Seems like most around here would rather have it boot fast then have expanded content, but then hay I like BD Live discs, EVEN if they could have just put that content on the discs themselves. I guess I am strange, lol.

As I said, the ONLY difference I've heard was the 3d from the 370 to the 460.

I don't think the 460 has more internet services. Sony support would know for sure... but I don't think it does...
post #8741 of 15133
Back when I purchased my first dvd player i had the option of getting one that decoded the Dolby Digital before sending it to the receiver. (if my mind serves me correct)

soo.. are blue ray players created the same now? do they decode prior to sending it to the receiver?

I will have my UMC-1 in the next few days.. which to my understanding will do all of the processing, which blue ray should I purchase? So it sounds like I wont need one with all of the bells and whistles because I'm going with the processor/amp route..I'm thinking 3-400 range but of course would like to spend as little as possible without compromising quality. thanks in advance.
post #8742 of 15133
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Originally Posted by redpen View Post

Back when I purchased my first dvd player i had the option of getting one that decoded the Dolby Digital before sending it to the receiver. (if my mind serves me correct)

soo.. are blue ray players created the same now? do they decode prior to sending it to the receiver?

These days, most can either decode or stream audio data to the receiver. See the table in the "Bluray Player Audio Support Comparison Chart" sticky thread at the top of this forum.

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I will have my UMC-1 in the next few days.. which to my understanding will do all of the processing, which blue ray should I purchase? So it sounds like I wont need one with all of the bells and whistles because I'm going with the processor/amp route..I'm thinking 3-400 range but of course would like to spend as little as possible without compromising quality. thanks in advance.

If you want the AVR to do all the processing then any streaming player will work. Do you have any other requirements?

-Bill
post #8743 of 15133
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

These days, most can either decode or stream audio data to the receiver. See the table in the "Bluray Player Audio Support Comparison Chart" sticky thread at the top of this forum.



If you want the AVR to do all the processing then any streaming player will work. Do you have any other requirements?

-Bill

up scaling would be a requirement.. I have a ton of older DVD's..

Maybe streaming netflix but I use my xbox 360 for that mostly.

Based on my research, the major differences in blu ray players are the amount of time it takes to seek and load the dvd's.. am I wrong? I don't want to skimp on this but I really don't think I need an Oppo if I can get by with a 2-300 dollar player.. thoughts?
post #8744 of 15133
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Originally Posted by redpen View Post

up scaling would be a requirement.. I have a ton of older DVD's..

Maybe streaming netflix but I use my xbox 360 for that mostly.

Based on my research, the major differences in blu ray players are the amount of time it takes to seek and load the dvd's.. am I wrong? I don't want to skimp on this but I really don't think I need an Oppo if I can get by with a 2-300 dollar player.. thoughts?

Have a look at Winston's pages for load times and DVD performance scores: http://winstonsreviews.com/.

The OPPO BDP-80 is $289.

-Bill
post #8745 of 15133
I just saw both of these at Costco today. Does anyone know what the differences are? I tried to search but only got official sites, no comparisons. The Samsung is $10 more at $159

Also, the Sony BDP-BX37 is about the same price? Thoughts

I assume all will play CD's?

Thanks
post #8746 of 15133
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Originally Posted by BOB HAN View Post

I just saw both of these at Costco today. Does anyone know what the differences are? I tried to search but only got official sites, no comparisons. The Samsung is $10 more at $159

Also, the Sony BDP-BX37 is about the same price? Thoughts

I assume all will play CD's?

Thanks

I was looking at these also - both have similar capability and both will play CDs and DVDs as well as Blu-rays.

For me what swung it was the Samsung had the AllShare/DLNA sharing now whearas the Sony requires a firmware upgrade in July. So far I'm happy with the Samsung.
post #8747 of 15133
I have been geared toward the Panny for months until today when I directly compared the two.Honestly,I must say that I preferred the image PQ of the LG-surprisingly.The picture just had more "pop",sharper contrast,clarity,color intensity and sharpness-black levels were about the same,as was standard dvd PQ.
I don't care about Wi-Fi,streaming,YouTube and various frivolities.I care about picture quality and audio quality (I need 5.1 analogue outs).Are the new HD audio formats real worth the trouble compared to simple DTS (over coaxial or optical)?
Does anyone have experience with these two players comparing these fundamental parameters?
All answers are appreciated-thanks,
Dr. Jeff
post #8748 of 15133
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Originally Posted by JEFFSJAZZ View Post

I have been geared toward the Panny for months until today when I directly compared the two.Honestly,I must say that I preferred the image PQ of the LG-surprisingly.The picture just had more "pop",sharper contrast,clarity,color intensity and sharpness-black levels were about the same,as was standard dvd PQ.
I don't care about Wi-Fi,streaming,YouTube and various frivolities.I care about picture quality and audio quality (I need 5.1 analogue outs).Are the new HD audio formats real worth the trouble compared to simple DTS (over coaxial or optical)?
Does anyone have experience with these two players comparing these fundamental parameters?
All answers are appreciated-thanks,
Dr. Jeff

As someone who has had the the LG390 (recently sold it to my brother in-law) and now have the panny bd85, I have to say I give the slight edge to picture quality to the bd85, this includes dvd upscaling as well. With that being said however I do prefer the user interface of the lg more so than the panny. With the bd85 you get 7.1 analog inputs which is what I have hooked up to my older pioneer receiver and it sounds amazing. This along with the fact you will save around $100-150, I recommend the panny BD85. The bd80 is the older model which is very good in its own right, but I recommend the newer bd85 just from experience.
post #8749 of 15133
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Originally Posted by AyOtEcHnOloGy View Post

As someone who has had the the LG390 (recently sold it to my brother in-law) and now have the panny bd85, I have to say I give the slight edge to picture quality to the bd85, this includes dvd upscaling as well.

With regards to Blu-ray, unless you re-calibrated your display for the new player, this comparison doesn't mean much.
post #8750 of 15133
I'm looking for my first Blu-ray player!

Right now my needs are something that will play my Netflix Blu-rays since I only own standard DVDs right now. Upscale DVDs to a 58 inch Plasma nicely. Have a nice wireless connection to stream Netflix and do system updates. Have a USB port to play the rare AVI I bit torrent for a show I may have missed. Preferably it'll do all of this fast and smooth for about $200. Right now I'm thinking of the VIZIO VBR200W or the LG BD570.

Any suggestions?
post #8751 of 15133
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Originally Posted by BillSears View Post

I'm looking for my first Blu-ray player!

Right now my needs are something that will play my Netflix Blu-rays since I only own standard DVDs right now. Upscale DVDs to a 58 inch Plasma nicely. Have a nice wireless connection to stream Netflix and do system updates. Have a USB port to play the rare AVI I bit torrent for a show I may have missed. Preferably it'll do all of this fast and smooth for about $200. Right now I'm thinking of the VIZIO VBR200W or the LG BD570.

Any suggestions?

if you will be using the panny p54G25 and it has WIFI and Netflix and all that, then does your blu-ray player need to stream, as well?

just moved and am trying to figure out a new theater: waiting for the new tv, and getting a Onkyo TX-SR-607 receiver, going with Polk TSi200 bookshelfs, ,ceiling speakers, CS10 center, PSw11 Subwoofer, a universal remote, and I can't figure out what to get for the blu-ray player.

i will be playing older DVDs, new Blu-rays, and want to be okay with the choice for the near future.

i'm obviously not a techie.
just a newbie mom, who enjoys good sound and tv.
please PLEASE advise
post #8752 of 15133
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Originally Posted by sher View Post

if you will be using the panny p54G25 and it has WIFI and Netflix and all that, then does your blu-ray player need to stream, as well?


please PLEASE advise

No. You'd still want both hooked up to your ethernet if the blu-ray player has the ethernet input in case of possible firmware updates. Just choose which device (TV/ blu-ray) you want to use if they have the same thing like Netflix.
post #8753 of 15133
I have a 61" DLP (the LED lamp version), Integra DTR 6.8, and currently the underperforming Samsung BD-UP 5000 that I bought when the format war was still alive. I've found a few movies that just don't play on my current player (Mutant Chronicles, The Soloist, 2012, etc). I'd like to avoid another Samsung player. Love the TV, but really hate the lack of support from Samsung on the player.
post #8754 of 15133
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

No. You'd still want both hooked up to your ethernet if the blu-ray player has the ethernet input in case of possible firmware updates. Just choose which device (TV/ blu-ray) you want to use if they have the same thing like Netflix.


thanks!
i'm reading that as of now, the panny tv has yet to provide netflix but its blu-ray does. also, the wifi dongle that comes with the blue ray works on the tv . . . . and folks who have received their tvs (i have not yet) are having trouble with the wifi.
i'm trying to choose a blu-ray player.
my first question, which you addressed, was if you i'm going to be using the panny p54G25 and it has WIFI and Netflix and all that, then does my blu-ray player need to stream, as well?

i just moved and am trying to figure out a new theater: waiting for the new tv, and getting a Onkyo TX-SR-607 receiver, going with Polk TSi200 bookshelf(s), ,ceiling speakers, CS10 center, PSw11 Subwoofer, a universal remote, and I can't figure out what to get for the blu-ray player.

i will be playing older DVDs, new Blu-rays, and want to be okay with the choice for the near future.

i'm obviously not a techie.
just a newbie mom, who enjoys good sound and tv.
please advise

I"ve psted this elsewhere so please excuse any redundancies.

thanks so much!!
post #8755 of 15133
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Originally Posted by sher View Post

thanks!
i'm reading that as of now, the panny tv has yet to provide netflix but its blu-ray does. also, the wifi dongle that comes with the blue ray works on the tv . . . . and folks who have received their tvs (i have not yet) are having trouble with the wifi.
i'm trying to choose a blu-ray player.
my first question, which you addressed, was if you i'm going to be using the panny p54G25 and it has WIFI and Netflix and all that, then does my blu-ray player need to stream, as well?

i just moved and am trying to figure out a new theater: waiting for the new tv, and getting a Onkyo TX-SR-607 receiver, going with Polk TSi200 bookshelf(s), ,ceiling speakers, CS10 center, PSw11 Subwoofer, a universal remote, and I can't figure out what to get for the blu-ray player.

i will be playing older DVDs, new Blu-rays, and want to be okay with the choice for the near future.

i'm obviously not a techie.
just a newbie mom, who enjoys good sound and tv.
please advise

I"ve psted this elsewhere so please excuse any redundancies.

thanks so much!!

Sorry I can't be of help with the wireless. I use cat 5 cable. The P54G25 does do Netflix. If it doesn't do it out of the box a firmware update will add it. If you can run a Cat5 cable I could help you. I've never been a fan of wireless and have been able to avoid it.
post #8756 of 15133
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Sorry I can't be of help with the wireless. I use cat 5 cable. The P54G25 does do Netflix. If it doesn't do it out of the box a firmware update will add it. If you can run a Cat5 cable I could help you. I've never been a fan of wireless and have been able to avoid it.


I might end up running cable to the TV, as the cable is on the other side of the wall; however, the blue-ray is not going to be located in the same location.

I think I'm going to try the BD85 as its dongle works brilliantly--according to its owners--and i can pull its dongle and try it in the tv, as well.

anybody?
post #8757 of 15133
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Originally Posted by sher View Post

I might end up running cable to the TV, as the cable is on the other side of the wall; however, the blue-ray is not going to be located in the same location.

I think I'm going to try the BD85 as its dongle works brilliantly--according to its owners--and i can pull its dongle and try it in the tv, as well.

anybody?

The BD85 is a fine player. I own one and you'll probably be happy with it. If you search the G10 and V10 threads in the plasma forum with the words: "wireless bridge" without the quotes you'll find some info.
post #8758 of 15133
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

The BD85 is a fine player. I own one and you'll probably be happy with it. If you search the G10 and V10 threads in the plasma forum with the words: "wireless bridge" without the quotes you'll find some info.

thanks for your help.

I saw the wireless bridge posts, but sadly, they were over my head. I know it can be done, and when the tv finally gets here and gets installed, maybe i'll get some help.
you say you have the BD85 and the at i'll "probably" be happy with it?
Yikes?
why the dubious tone?
post #8759 of 15133
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Originally Posted by sher View Post

thanks for your help.

I saw the wireless bridge posts, but sadly, they were over my head. I know it can be done, and when the tv finally gets here and gets installed, maybe i'll get some help.
you say you have the BD85 and the at i'll "probably" be happy with it?
Yikes?
why the dubious tone?

Because you want it for wireless and I don't use wireless. If you can go without wireless you are better off. No dropouts and bandwith problems compared to wireless. Here's some info:
http://lifehacker.com/368094/wire-yo...-with-a-bridge

You can find more info on the net with google.
post #8760 of 15133
Hi, I've got a Vizio 5150 TV and we'd like to add to it a blu-ray player and something like a sound bar. We have a Tivo Series 3 HD with wireless Fios access if it matters, and no receiver, processor, or any sort of sound system at all. Our previous TV was fine using just the integrated TV speakers, but the Vizio integrated speakers just aren't up to snuff. We'd like to upgrade the sound system without resorting to a full home theater system, and we also need a Blu Ray player for this TV. We had been using a PS3 but it died on us.

I've seen that there are a couple of models that combine a sound bar and a blu-ray player. Does anyone have any comments or thoughts that would help me direct my search a bit better? I'm posting this here rather than in the speaker/Home theater forums because I really don't want a rec of "get a home theater system." We'll suffer with the integrated TV speakers before we'll buy a set of speakers. We're not wired for them, the room isn't laid out for them, and we much prefer the "less is more" approach when it comes to the TV. Thanks for your help!
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