New Very Thin Pioneer - Page 6

idk. on that firework pic., i couldn't even see the bezel at all. THAT is impressive!!!

I bet you that if a 7th gen model was in that shot it would look insanely gray with those camera exposure settings.

When I take pictures of my lcd monitor in a pitch black room I can make the monitor look anywhere ranging from pure black to almost white it's so gray depending on what settings I choose. I usually take overexposed shots of a new lcd monitor to really see how the backlight uniformity is because I'm anal like that.

If I recall correctly, last years shots were not so ridiculously overexposed. In fact, they were taken in a way where they seemed to appropriately capture the 7th gen display while making the 8th gen display look as if it horribly crushed black. The explanation for that was the limited dynamic range of digital cameras.

I've seen all the posts for the super thin and extreme contrast concept Pio's but what I haven't seen is any detailed information on the 9G panels. Have I missed it or do we not know anything? I'm really interested in what is going to be available for purchase during the summer and fall of 2008.

pioneer did not show the 9g at ces-only by invitation at a different hotel - i was very disapointed

but i saw the thin one and it is pretty nice - same picture as the 8g

At least we now know there will be a 9g pioneer ikeb.Now will somebody who was invited to the 9g pioneer showing please post what you saw.

When do you think we will here about it? D-Nice has already basically said that the 9g panels will have the extreme contrast just not the ultra slim profile.

More information than I had. Thanks. Now, I second mattg3's request...someone who knows more please post up!

Agree, it's a staged demo. What would you do to exaggerate the effect?

Funky Camera work or not, Pioneer states that the individual pixels are in fact 'OFF' which has never been done before in any plasma. The patent describing the method makes sense and also says the pixels are completely 'OFF'.

I have not confirmed or denied that the 9G will have the zero idle luminance. I've stated the 9G are fully capable of carrying the tech.

Are any details about the 9G's going to be given at all this week? The 10Gs sound incredible but it seems rather odd that there's no news at all about the 9Gs.

Pioneer has never really used CES to introduce a new year's model line. The first Kuros were the exception to the rule due to the accelerated production model for them. You will not hear of any 9G info on the CES floor.

Thanks! But that's a bummer. Then again, they won't come out until late summer anyways.

dang. i wanted to know if i could wait for 9gs or will i have to buy a 150 now and buy the new one later. good for me, bad for budget. will the 9/10gs be cheaper due to 10 lumens

pioneer told me that they will have a press release about the 9g in feb when they kick off their road show pioneer also told me that they will not longer publish contrast ratios

also - panasonic's new pz850 and pz800 really looked good. As good as my 5080 and the 5010's that i have seen in the stores - no pricing yet - their 150" is unbelievable

one other interesting thing at the show - dolby's new volume control really works and will be in tvs and receivers in 2009. 2009 looks like the year for more advances - 2008 "stuff" seemed to be rehashed 2007 "stuff" slightly modified

9G's will not have 10 lumne tech. 10 lumen tech gives you the 9mm display. That's not happening in 2008.

didn't you say they incorporate certain parts of 10 lumen, or are they 5 lumen.

Thanks to ikeb and D-Nice for clearing up the 9G information. February isn't that far away so we don't have that long too wait. Let's hope for early in February.

as far as i could tell Pioneer has no longer published contrast for a while now, at least i couldnt find any numbers last year either.

as for the Panasonics, when you think about it, it isnt much of an acheivment for their upcoming top of the line THX 800 and 850's to merely look "as good" as the 5080's

last year 16,000 for 720p sets and 20,000 for 1080p sets. That was the most widely announced feature for the KUROS... where have you been living

I know you haven't.. but from what I have read in all your posts you are hinting that the 9G models are very capable of having the extreme contrast feature.
Lets hope so.

I've got my fingers crossed!!!

In the world where at that time i went to the kuro website and found absolutely no mention of contrast numbers anywhere.

besides, i would think that the higher resolution sets would have a slightly dimmer look and lower contrast, at least thats what people suspected due to the Panasonics doing it that way.

The higher resolution Pioneer sets have lower black levels. That's why they have a slightly larger contrast ratio.

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av...2032783,00.htm proof

yeah and you only had to go to a singapore cnet website to get it, i wouldnt necesarily consider that obvious or pioneer officially listing its contrast, as i said, go to their actual website, the contrast numbers for their 8g kuros were never listed.

before the new announcements... or in july or august of last year. if you googled kuro, an engadget, gizmodo type website with the press release that stated them i think most people knew the kuros Contrast ratio

Other than the demise of the HD DVD format, they should have called it the CES 2008 non-event this year, with lots of future tech but no great innovations being released during 2008 regarding display technology, Blu-ray disc or TiVo native support for SDV.

Don't look for many changes until sometime after 2/17/09, which puts us out to CES 2010.

Panasonic has new plasma's with 30000:1 contrast ratio. We do not know what Pioneer will have in the 9G's this year. There will be new products and that is what I care about, not CES.

I think the Future product displays were needed to show the media and public that Plasma has a future and it is awesome

- Rich

Why?