any good tower speakers that are thin like these?

I am not sure if there are even any lousy ones that cheap, much less good ones.

I'm sure for the price they are decent. I'm currently running SDAT's that people call "white van" speakers but they sound awesome for the price. I'd say get them they can't sound to bad.

The point of the OP was that he wants to spend 1/3 as much.

I wouldn't call it "just settling". Those are an absolute steal at the price!

It says each.

Wow, those look nice for the price -- aluminum body with a glossy front. Someone here should try them out for the team.

It is the reciever.

Buy them, send them to me, and I will give you my opinion for free!

"what can good speakers do vs a cheap speaker?" Sound good...

Seriously, it is well known that the quality of your speakers contributes more to sound quality than any other component.

Not sure if I understand your question. Any speaker can accept True HD, Dts etc. A higher quality speaker will just give you clearer sound. Hope that helps. There is no such thing as a Hd speaker, if that's what you mean.

Find a show room and listen to their cheapest speakers vs their most expensive and you'll understand.

That, my friend, is the million dollar question. I suggest you listen to a variety of speakers and choose what you like. Sound quality is purely subjective.

Yes, but its almost better to shop brands than specs. Keep in mind speakers are electromechanical devices, the technology is tried and true. Real speaker manufacturers like Infinity and JBL and Polk will make you a good budget speaker. They will have degreed engineers design and test them for accuracy.


Its important that the individual cones have sizable magnets, and the cabinet is strong, well braced, and with the proper internal dimensions (which generates the bass).

For budget speakers, its also important that the manufacturer sinks his limited manufacturing budget towards quality, and not quantity.

So if you look at those Polks ... you notice they are not flashy. That is because Polk knows that for 60 bucks, they cant afford to spend a dime on flash. Polk gives you a decent midrange driver, and a decent tweeter, and a proper cabinet. They engineer it properly, and its a good product.

A good budget speaker will be heavy for its size ... it will be dinky but weigh like 15-25 pounds.
A bad budget speaker will be light for its size, it will be HUGE and weight 15-25 pounds.


What "White Van" manufacturers tend to do, is they go for flashy looks, at the expense of sound. They will give you a crappy big cabinet, with lots of cheesy drivers, and to a Noob it will look like a great deal:


But the stuff is complete crap inside ... the magnets weigh an ounce, the cabinets resonate horribly, and they sound horrible. Often there are no speaker engineers even involved in the design ... they get designed by some manufacturing expert that knows how to make a speaker LOOK impressive.

So a good budget speaker will not be flashy ... it will look functional, and boxy, and it will have a damn good cone and tweeter in it for the price


And it will sound worlds better than that flashy white van crap.

Dude, sudy at least a little! 1080p is video resolution, It has nothing to do with sound at all!

Oh, sorry. (You were asking about recievers and speakers, so mentioning 1080p in that context seemed totally unrelated.)

1080P is the least important spec for a TV in terms of video quality. Brightness, Contrast, Color gamut, black levels (related to contrast), are much more
important.


Also, audio quality is both subjective and objective. If the Frequency response as tested by good reviewers shows great deviations from the average at typical listening volumes, its not going to sound very good compared to one with a tighter FR. Also, you can check for cabinet resonances with accelerometer. Those are just a couple of objective examples, plenty more. You need to go and listen to various speakers. You will understand immediately if you compare a 50$ MSRP speaker to a 500$ MSRP speaker and perhaps to a 5000$ MSRP speaker from the same brand.

Don't rely on specs, rely on your senses. Just because the box says it can do certain things doesn't mean squat if you hear/see differently

"Also, audio quality is both subjective and objective. If the Frequency response as tested by good reviewers shows great deviations from the average at typical listening volumes, its not going to sound very good compared to one with a tighter FR. Also, you can check for cabinet resonances with accelerometer. Those are just a couple of objective examples, plenty more. You need to go and listen to various speakers. You will understand immediately if you compare a 50$ MSRP speaker to a 500$ MSRP speaker and perhaps to a 5000$ MSRP speaker from the same brand." Ultimately, quality sound is what sounds good to you; purely subjective. Most people don't buy speakers based on charts and graphs, but buy what sounds good to them. Sound can be measured objectively, but what constitutes pleasing sound is always subjective.

Not necessarily. To me, quality sound is getting as close to the source material as possible and buying the best source that is true to the musicians. In order to get as close to what is on the source as possible, the speakers have to be as accurate as possible. You will not get accuracy from a speaker that has a crappy FR vs. SPL in-room response (which brings up the importance of room treatments, but thats a different thread). You will not get accuracy from a speaker that have high distortion at applicable listening levels. There are other important measurements which I wont get into.

If you like the boom box sound, the smiley face equalization, or any other such inaccuracies, thats fine, but its not anywhere near what the music was meant to sound like by the artists themselves - which may or may not be important to you. This, however, is certainly important to many people, including musicians.