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post #10201 of 11255
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Sounds to me like you got it exactly right. The idea is to reduce the need for a universal. I get the best of both worlds by using CEC for my PS3 and getting full on/off control, plus all the extra benefits of a universal. Like you, I can't bring myself to spend $40 just to control a single $200 device. So a $15 nyko is good, a $3 Auvio is better, and free CEC is best.
However, harmony's state tracking can be thrown off by CEC. But with good macro design (use of discretes and a few tricks), you can minimize these issues. I don't use harmony, so CEC is a little easier to deal with in my case and makes my macros much simpler. For example, my Play PS3 activity macro consists mainly of just a couple of commands: TV discrete on and PS3 power. All other power and input switching happens automatically. You have to get creative to do the same on harmony.

I finally setup my H1 and 880 yesterday and now it's working as intended. When I originally setup the device and activities, I thought the program would map all of the buttons for me, and add all the activities based on the original remote, but of course that is asking for way too much. I finally mapped my buttons and on screen actions so that I would use the remote via the Activities instead of having to Drill down into the device itself and operate from there. I did notice something frustrating when updating the buttons was that sometimes when saving the changes, that when I went back in, some of them would be deleted or moved or changed. That was really odd, but I think it was b/c I either had a duplicate name action or a duplicate device button specified under the setup page actions. But it was definitely frustrating to say the least. I know you're all thinking why do you have 2 actions with the same name and/or 2 mapped to the same button. I don't recall the action name but for the same button, I was mapping the ps3 buttons triangle, square, circle, x and so I wanted one set to have the bluray action like Movie Menu (triangle), Control Panel (square), etc., then underneath it to be just the Triangle, Square, etc so that when I exit the movie onto the XMB, I know what the actual buttons are. This is mainly for other ppl who will use the remote since I know what I'm putting there. I did setup the macro on exit to go left then up and x to turn off the ps3 and it worked, so that was nice. Turning on is not a problem b/c I still have to put a disc in anyways.

But I'll still have to tweak the remote to see exactly what I want to map my extra buttons to, but it works nicely now! smile.gif I was just me being super lazy in setting it up in the beginning or being naive to think the remote would do all that I thought.

Anyhow, thanks for everyone's input. I appreciate it. I'll definitely let you all know if I have any questions.

Thanks,
post #10202 of 11255
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Originally Posted by kikkoman View Post

I finally setup my H1 and 880 yesterday and now it's working as intended. When I originally setup the device and activities, I thought the program would map all of the buttons for me, and add all the activities based on the original remote, but of course that is asking for way too much. I finally mapped my buttons and on screen actions so that I would use the remote via the Activities instead of having to Drill down into the device itself and operate from there. I did notice something frustrating when updating the buttons was that sometimes when saving the changes, that when I went back in, some of them would be deleted or moved or changed. That was really odd, but I think it was b/c I either had a duplicate name action or a duplicate device button specified under the setup page actions. But it was definitely frustrating to say the least. I know you're all thinking why do you have 2 actions with the same name and/or 2 mapped to the same button. I don't recall the action name but for the same button, I was mapping the ps3 buttons triangle, square, circle, x and so I wanted one set to have the bluray action like Movie Menu (triangle), Control Panel (square), etc., then underneath it to be just the Triangle, Square, etc so that when I exit the movie onto the XMB, I know what the actual buttons are. This is mainly for other ppl who will use the remote since I know what I'm putting there. I did setup the macro on exit to go left then up and x to turn off the ps3 and it worked, so that was nice. Turning on is not a problem b/c I still have to put a disc in anyways.
But I'll still have to tweak the remote to see exactly what I want to map my extra buttons to, but it works nicely now! smile.gif I was just me being super lazy in setting it up in the beginning or being naive to think the remote would do all that I thought.
Anyhow, thanks for everyone's input. I appreciate it. I'll definitely let you all know if I have any questions.
Thanks,

You are correct about the duplicate custom buttons being deleted.

One way around this (if you have not maxed out on devices) is to add the same device a second time... e.g., PS3 and PS3-2... then you can add the same commands twice, once from each copy of the device. You would use the existing/first copy of the device for all programming just as you already have done. The second copy of the device would be manually added as an extra device in the activity, then only used for those duplicate commands in the button setup.
post #10203 of 11255
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

You are correct about the duplicate custom buttons being deleted.
One way around this (if you have not maxed out on devices) is to add the same device a second time... e.g., PS3 and PS3-2... then you can add the same commands twice, once from each copy of the device. You would use the existing/first copy of the device for all programming just as you already have done. The second copy of the device would be manually added as an extra device in the activity, then only used for those duplicate commands in the button setup.

Didn't think of this, so definitely a nice work around! Thanks jcalabria!
post #10204 of 11255
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

Is this remote worth it? I had a co-worker mention the battery and charging station have problems and they went through 3 remotes and a lot of money before going to a lower end model that worked off normal batteries. I would like 1 remote to rule them all but I am wondering if these battery issues are something to worry about.

I got two H1s in my household, configured differently - one for basement HT and one for main floor TV room and never had any issues - not with programming nor batteries. I'm very happy with H1.
post #10205 of 11255
I have the confirmed battery that is suppose to be defective with the blue or green stripe, can't remember.

I have had it for years and I charge the battery rarely and use the remote every night and yet to find it swollen.

But I also don't over charge it and only charge it when it is asking. I charge it for 6-8 hrs and take it off the craddle.
post #10206 of 11255
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Originally Posted by bruman View Post

I have the confirmed battery that is suppose to be defective with the blue or green stripe, can't remember.
I have had it for years and I charge the battery rarely and use the remote every night and yet to find it swollen.
But I also don't over charge it and only charge it when it is asking. I charge it for 6-8 hrs and take it off the craddle.

You sound like me. I did everything like you said and found the battery swollen. I bought a new battery, figuring that it was cheaper/easier than waiting until it was too late
post #10207 of 11255
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Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post

You sound like me. I did everything like you said and found the battery swollen. I bought a new battery, figuring that it was cheaper/easier than waiting until it was too late
It has to be a particular battery that is causing the problem. I've had my remote about 5 years and I put it on the cradle every night and it stays there until I get home the next day. My battery doesn't show any sign of swelling.
post #10208 of 11255
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Originally Posted by Tom Thomas View Post

It has to be a particular battery that is causing the problem. I've had my remote about 5 years and I put it on the cradle every night and it stays there until I get home the next day. My battery doesn't show any sign of swelling.

Could be. I got mine for my birthday (end of August) 3 or 4 years ago. I replaced the battery last summer. IIRC it was under $15, which was cheaper than a new H1 smile.gif
post #10209 of 11255
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Originally Posted by Tom Thomas View Post

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Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post

You sound like me. I did everything like you said and found the battery swollen. I bought a new battery, figuring that it was cheaper/easier than waiting until it was too late
It has to be a particular battery that is causing the problem. I've had my remote about 5 years and I put it on the cradle every night and it stays there until I get home the next day. My battery doesn't show any sign of swelling.
You sound like me. smile.gif

The bottom line is that no battery lasts forever. Yours will die, too.

My H1 battery stopped charging after about 5 years, and when I opened the H1, the battery was swollen and quite hard to remove (I used needle-nose pliers). This seems to be the common failure mode for these batteries.
post #10210 of 11255
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Originally Posted by BartMan01 View Post

I'm one of the 'couple' of people who had a swollen battery issue and while not the end of the world, it can be the end of a very expensive remote. Due to the design of the battery compartment (slide in instead of lift out), the swollen battery gets physically jammed in the compartment since when swollen enough the battery will no longer lift clear of the lip that holds it in place. And at least in my case they told me that 'this is normal', and that all they could do was give me a minor discount on purchasing a new remote from their online store (which would have cost more than buying one at retail with normal retail discounts). Poor design + poor customer service after the fact.
Being a long time Harmony user, things were MUCH better before they sold the company to Logitech. Still one of the best options on the market though.

Just to kind of even out the experiences with customer service, they took care of my swollen battery issue above and beyond what I could have imagined.

They were great to me.
post #10211 of 11255
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Originally Posted by bweissman View Post


The bottom line is that no battery lasts forever. Yours will die, too.
My H1 battery stopped charging after about 5 years, and when I opened the H1, the battery was swollen and quite hard to remove (I used needle-nose pliers). This seems to be the common failure mode for these batteries.

Your statement may be wrong (we don't actually know if it is) because of sampling error: We only know that a relatively small number of H1 owners post here about a swollen battery problem. We do NOT know how often this occurs among the population of H1 owners, nor do we know about other common modes of battery failures that people may not post about (e.g., gradual inability to hold a charge).
post #10212 of 11255
I apologize if this has already been asked but there are way too many pages to go through.

I have a Harmony One, a Yamaha RX-A2000 receiver and 2 projectors. The Yamaha has 2 HDMI outs, I am trying to figure out how to tell the remote witch HDMI out port to use for which projector but I do not see an option for this. I see only input choices. Any help would be appreciated.
post #10213 of 11255
^^^

How would you select it with the original Yamaha remote? You need to replicate these commands on the H1. If a specific Yamaha command is not already mapped in the H1 then you need to "learn" that command into the H1 from the Yamaha remote.
post #10214 of 11255
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Originally Posted by BPlayer View Post

^^^
How would you select it with the original Yamaha remote? You need to replicate these commands on the H1. If a specific Yamaha command is not already mapped in the H1 then you need to "learn" that command into the H1 from the Yamaha remote.

Never mind. I love Yamaha. All I have to do is turn on which projector I want to use and the receiver automatically detects which HDMI out. Everything is working awesome now! Thanks.
post #10215 of 11255
How can I rename the Device name to something I want?

For example, instead of DVD player, I want it to display Oppo-93
post #10216 of 11255
click on th device and options will come up to pick, select rename.
post #10217 of 11255
I've done some hunting & researching & reading and have a question please. I upgraded my AVR from Yamaha RX-V671 to Yamaha RX-A2010. Is there a simple way to get the One to substitute the new AVR for the old AVR in the activity buttons? I can't seem to make the 'swap,' and can't figure out how to do this. Can someone please tell me a way I won't have to re-do all the activities?
post #10218 of 11255
1st post here. Great help so far in the pages I read, however I am having a problem still. When I turn on activity "watch movie" my harmony one will turn on my media box, tv, and stereo and switches the tv input to video which is perfect. But my problem is the remote now shows and controls my stereo instead of my media box and I have to switch to devices to use my remote with media box.

I did just upgrade remotes from an older harmony 659 which didn't have this problem. Any help guys would be appreciated.
post #10219 of 11255
Solved. Deleted media box and re did while setup. Works correct now.
post #10220 of 11255
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Originally Posted by willybguy View Post

I've done some hunting & researching & reading and have a question please. I upgraded my AVR from Yamaha RX-V671 to Yamaha RX-A2010. Is there a simple way to get the One to substitute the new AVR for the old AVR in the activity buttons? I can't seem to make the 'swap,' and can't figure out how to do this. Can someone please tell me a way I won't have to re-do all the activities?

Just delete the old receiver and add the new one. It takes less than 30 seconds to redo each activity setup unless you want to customize buttons.
post #10221 of 11255
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Originally Posted by Dropkick Murphy View Post

Just delete the old receiver and add the new one. It takes less than 30 seconds to redo each activity setup unless you want to customize buttons.

Generally correct, but I have found it better to add the new one without deleting the old one, then rerun the activity setups changing the answers to the setup questions to the new AVR (e.g., which device will change volume, etc). Delete the old receiver only after all the activities have been updated. More of the custom button programming seems to remain intact this way.
post #10222 of 11255
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Originally Posted by Dropkick Murphy View Post

Just delete the old receiver and add the new one. It takes less than 30 seconds to redo each activity setup unless you want to customize buttons.

thanks - i added the new AVR before deleting the old one, and then just redid each activity. You are right, it only took about a minute to redo each activity to include the new AVR.

fwiw, my new yamaha RX-A2010 AVR seems to play more evenly and reliably with the Harmony One then the RX-V671 that I had been using. I'm not sure if it's because the newer AVR has more power (for antennas) overall, or what, but it's definitely less prone to 'missing' signals.
post #10223 of 11255
Hey guys,

I just bought a new computer and got a free Xbox 360. Nice! smile.gif

Now I need to install the Harmony software on my new computer so I can re-program my Harmony One to include the Xbox... but I can't find the software to download. Anyone know where it is??

Thanks!

EDIT: Guess what? I think I just found it, here.
post #10224 of 11255
Hey guys. I'm programming my new H1 and I have an issue. No codes I have taught it will function. The units in question are a Bell satellite receiver (which I'm surprised I had to teach in the first place) and a Tripp Lite power conditioner with IR switched outlets. I'm also using these products with a Russound IR repeater. Now, I noticed that after a few uses during programming, the remote would only work when placed right up to the receiver on the repeater. The Bell remote works through the repeater fine. So does the Tripp Lite. I wonder if this is why the original BEll codes didn't work and perhaps I will remove and re-add the device and try the factory codes again.

At any rate the Tripp Lite and BEll codes that were learned still don't work after a full charge. I wonder, I did the learning under Halogen lighting. Has anyone experience IR issues with learning under IR lighting? I think I will re-try with the room lights off.

Finally, I don't see options for learning in raw anymore. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place. Are they still present?

Thanks, Craig
post #10225 of 11255
In Device mode, the Learn Command box is on the top right of the screen. You can then select Custom and then to Learn Raw.

From Activities, the Learn Command box is at the bottom right of the screen. You can then select Custom and then Learn Raw.

Any commands that you learn in device mode are not carried over to any activities that use that device.

The Bell device should be there. Try a similar model number and see if that helps or try it under a different category.
post #10226 of 11255
anyone know how to set harmony 1 to use FIOS box, not the DVR just HD one?

Ok i set the box up so it turn on with tv and sound bar but the stations are going to the TV not the FIOS box. Meaning when i hit favorites AMC it goes to tv tunner not the fios box and tv tuner can't handle 3 number channel. 57 then 8 which is no single.
Edited by dagger666 - 9/18/12 at 12:47pm
post #10227 of 11255
I've been fiddling around with equipment today and ran into an issue.

I had a Sony DN1000 AVR in my system and the H1 liked it just fine.

Now I switched a Harman Kardon AVR247 into the rack and the H1 likes most of it! smile.gif

The part it doesn't like is the up and down control. I tried it with what the database thinks they are, tried it with learning in 'analyze' mode, and lastly learning in 'raw' mode. It matters not!

The only saving grace is that those are not used by me except when I pull up the on-screen display (menu), and I need them to navigate that. At the moment, since I don't really go into the OSD very often, I just use the HK's remote.

Any suggestions? Or is it just the way things are??
post #10228 of 11255
Hi Guys.

This is my first post to the remote area that I remember. I've got a problem with
my H1 screen. It's lit up all white, none of the touch functional activity areas are showing.
Working from memory, I can still operrate it by touching where I think the right areas
are on the screen but it sure is annoying.

Has anyone run across this and come up with a solution. I've had it about 4 years of
absolute reliable service.

HELP !!
post #10229 of 11255
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

anyone know how to set harmony 1 to use FIOS box, not the DVR just HD one?
Ok i set the box up so it turn on with tv and sound bar but the stations are going to the TV not the FIOS box. Meaning when i hit favorites AMC it goes to tv tunner not the fios box and tv tuner can't handle 3 number channel. 57 then 8 which is no single.

You did the activity setup incorrectly. Redo and when it asks you what device you use to change channels, choose "set top box"
post #10230 of 11255
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Originally Posted by PannyMann View Post

Hi Guys.
This is my first post to the remote area that I remember. I've got a problem with
my H1 screen. It's lit up all white, none of the touch functional activity areas are showing.
Working from memory, I can still operrate it by touching where I think the right areas
are on the screen but it sure is annoying.
Has anyone run across this and come up with a solution. I've had it about 4 years of
absolute reliable service.
HELP !!

You can try these things in this order...

#1 Remove & replace battery

#2 Connect to PC and update remote

#3 Throw it out the window and buy a new one
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