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post #10321 of 11255
I am using the latest version of the Harmony software on my windows vista laptop. (7.7.0). I cannot get the software to stay logged in (even if I click the checkbox to stay logged in in this computer). Every time I log in, it requires the password. Even more annoying, if I take to long editing, arranging buttons, when I click "done" to go back to the main screen, sometime instead of updating my remote profile, it brings me back to the log-in screen and any editing I have just done is no longer there, and I have to start over.

I therefore have gotten in the habit of editing and every few minutes hitting done to make sure things are saved.

Any thoughts?
post #10322 of 11255
In case this hasnt been mentioned yet, I'm posting my settings for the comcast cable box with my logitech harmony one:

Inter-Key delay: 0
Inter-Device delay: 0

With this setting, the favorite channels programmed work as fast as with the original comcast remote.
post #10323 of 11255
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Originally Posted by Tachy View Post

I am using the latest version of the Harmony software on my windows vista laptop. (7.7.0). I cannot get the software to stay logged in (even if I click the checkbox to stay logged in in this computer). Every time I log in, it requires the password. Even more annoying, if I take to long editing, arranging buttons, when I click "done" to go back to the main screen, sometime instead of updating my remote profile, it brings me back to the log-in screen and any editing I have just done is no longer there, and I have to start over.
I therefore have gotten in the habit of editing and every few minutes hitting done to make sure things are saved.
Any thoughts?

There is no "keep me logged in" checkmark... only one labeled "remember me on this computer". At least for me, if I check that it does remember my username and password for the next session.

That setting has no effect whatsoever on the inactivity timeout, which I agree can be annoying. There is no workaround that I know of. Regularly hitting Save or switching pages while you are working is just about all you can do. Custom Buttons and Favorite Channels are the most likely places that you would exceed the timeout if all you are doing is rearranging buttons (which is done locally until you click save, so the server thinks you are inactive). It's especially annoying because custom button/favorite channel setup is by far the weakest part of the software... moving buttons around one button at a time - one line at a time - is ridiculously tedious and time consuming.
post #10324 of 11255
Yes, but unfortunately my program for some reason does not remember me even if I check that box. Requiring me to log in, even if I just logged in 10 minutes prior.
post #10325 of 11255
When learning IR to the harmony one using the computer software, what purpose does the custom button do??

Also, is there a way to delete learned commands?
post #10326 of 11255
Custom enables "raw" learn mode which will simply record the IR signal exactly as it's received, without analyzing, compressing or cleaning it up. Use this only as a last resort or to combine several signals into one.
post #10327 of 11255
And what about deleting a code that is no longer needed from the learned list (or can you even edit the spelling). I guess the spelling never really shows, since you can name the button assignment something else.
post #10328 of 11255
Unfortunately there is no way to delete a code, another weakness but it does not cause an unwanted actions.
post #10329 of 11255
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Doesn't matter. All it needs is a fraction of a second to get the complete command. Customize your activity, step through the wizard, pick "I want to add more control", step through the wizard some more, then get to a screen where you can add additional commands to the End of your activity. At that point add another Power Off or Discrete Off or whatever logitech calls it.

Thank you SO MUCH mdavej, you were correct. It wasn't the delay as I had suspected. I really appreciate it, it was driving me NUTS!
post #10330 of 11255
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Originally Posted by BPlayer View Post

Defining a Denon Setup activity without the other devices would mean that switching to it would turn off the other devices in the previous activity.

I often see references to this (switching activities will turn off unused devices in the new activity). I just wanted to pass along a tip -- you can alter this behavior. I have changed it for all of my activities, so that switching from one activity to another does NOT turn off unused devices. I find this handy when switching from one activity to another and then back again. Typical scenario: watching Netflix streaming using the Wii. Pause the show so someone can go off and do something for a couple minutes. Switch over to Watch TV. Person returns, switch back to Watch Netflix, and then resume from the point where it was paused.

This isn't the greatest example since the One won't control the Wii on/off, but you get the idea. I used to have a separate DVR device (separate from the cable set top box) and this was used a lot to swap back and forth. For example, in that case, the program guide on my DVR had stopped working. So, I would switch back and forth between the TV and the DVR to set up manual recordings.
post #10331 of 11255
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Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas View Post

...Typical scenario: watching Netflix streaming using the Wii. Pause the show so someone can go off and do something for a couple minutes. Switch over to Watch TV. Person returns, switch back to Watch Netflix, and then resume from the point where it was paused...
You can also create an activity for just such an occasion and call it, "intermission". wink.gif
post #10332 of 11255
I had one of the first Harmony One remotes. Recently bought a second to replace an old 880 I had but this new H1 doesn't feel quite as nice as the old one (no rubberish feel on the back, etc) which is disappointing, but I can live with that. However, the part that is irritating me is the Screen Sounds are louder and worse sounding on the newer H1. Does anyone know a way to lower the volume / change the screen sound back to how it sounds on the old H1?
post #10333 of 11255
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Originally Posted by woolyninja View Post

I had one of the first Harmony One remotes. Recently bought a second to replace an old 880 I had but this new H1 doesn't feel quite as nice as the old one (no rubberish feel on the back, etc) which is disappointing, but I can live with that. However, the part that is irritating me is the Screen Sounds are louder and worse sounding on the newer H1. Does anyone know a way to lower the volume / change the screen sound back to how it sounds on the old H1?

Same boat as you. Picked up a new H1 at CostCo, and it is a 'cheapened' version of my current one. The back is not 'rubbery', the base is missing the light dim/off switch, and the screen is HORRIBLE next to the old one (visible vertical lines). As to the sounds, I have always had them turned off in the remote options (both old and new) so I can't say.

Keeping the new one despite the lower quality so I can have the exact same remote both up and downstairs (no more complaints of 'I don't know how to use this one, it's different).
post #10334 of 11255
Anyone using a Harmony One Remote find it to slow to respond to commands? I also have a 650 ($37.99 from Costco) in which the response is almost instantaneous. When I turn off Activities (PS3) it takes about 2-3 secs to respond. Is this normal?
post #10335 of 11255
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Originally Posted by insync44 View Post

Anyone using a Harmony One Remote find it to slow to respond to commands? I also have a 650 ($37.99 from Costco) in which the response is almost instantaneous. When I turn off Activities (PS3) it takes about 2-3 secs to respond. Is this normal?

I don't notice that there is that much slowness. It's pretty quick for me. I only notice a lag for commands that I have the One learn IR commands from the original remotes.
post #10336 of 11255
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Originally Posted by BartMan01 View Post

Same boat as you. Picked up a new H1 at CostCo, and it is a 'cheapened' version of my current one. The back is not 'rubbery', the base is missing the light dim/off switch, and the screen is HORRIBLE next to the old one (visible vertical lines). As to the sounds, I have always had them turned off in the remote options (both old and new) so I can't say.
Keeping the new one despite the lower quality so I can have the exact same remote both up and downstairs (no more complaints of 'I don't know how to use this one, it's different).

I got mine at Costco and I have no vertical lines and my station icons look as good as my friend's 1 year old H1. You may have got a bad screen. BTW, I went to Costco today and they have the H1 for $99.99. I was still covered under their price match so I got $10 back. I upgraded from a six year old 670. I love the H1. I was able to transfer my settings from the 670 and I have a Nyko dongle for my PS3 and the H1 works great. I just wish I could use the PS3 button.
post #10337 of 11255
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Originally Posted by BartMan01 View Post

Same boat as you. Picked up a new H1 at CostCo, and it is a 'cheapened' version of my current one. The back is not 'rubbery', the base is missing the light dim/off switch, and the screen is HORRIBLE next to the old one (visible vertical lines). As to the sounds, I have always had them turned off in the remote options (both old and new) so I can't say.
Keeping the new one despite the lower quality so I can have the exact same remote both up and downstairs (no more complaints of 'I don't know how to use this one, it's different).

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Originally Posted by sojodave View Post

I got mine at Costco and I have no vertical lines and my station icons look as good as my friend's 1 year old H1. You may have got a bad screen. BTW, I went to Costco today and they have the H1 for $99.99. I was still covered under their price match so I got $10 back. I upgraded from a six year old 670. I love the H1. I was able to transfer my settings from the 670 and I have a Nyko dongle for my PS3 and the H1 works great. I just wish I could use the PS3 button.

The one year old unit is probably just as "bad" as the new one, so they appear similar when comparing. The newer units look and work OK by themselves but put one next to a 4 year old unit and the differences are EXTREMELY obvious. My older unit has an absolutely gorgeous display... crystal clear with deep rich colors. My newer unit (now well over a year old) and my son's unit (about a year old) are similar to each other but obviously different than the older unit. In comparison, the new display is brighter but not as sharp and the colors are washed out in comparison. Also, there is a definite "line structure" visible in the newer displays that is not visible at all in the old unit... it is more obvious to the eye if the remote is moving relative to your eyes, as when picking it up to use it.

In addition to the display differences, the newer units exhibit significantly shorter battery life between charges. Programmed identically and with the same usage patterns (by me in both cases), my old unit regularly went 10-14 days between charges... the new unit is lucky to get four days... three is more typical. Swapping batteries and chargers around between units made absolutely no difference.

Without question there have been running changes over the course of the One's production life. The newer units are not bad, per sé, and the differences are not deal breakers all things considered... but they are not quite as good as the original units, either.
post #10338 of 11255
Hey guys, quick question. I recently purchased an Oppo bdp-103 and I'm trying to get this to work properly with the H1. I've created all of the activities with the Oppo and everything seems to work except when I first turn things on with an activity. So for example, if everything is off and I try "watch tv", everything turns on right but because the Oppo takes a while to turn on, it doesn't go to the right input. I've tried adding an extra command with the Oppo for a delay of 10 seconds but that doesn't seem to help either. Has anyone else had this issue before and if so, how were you able to fix it?
post #10339 of 11255
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

The one year old unit is probably just as "bad" as the new one, so they appear similar when comparing. The newer units look and work OK by themselves but put one next to a 4 year old unit and the differences are EXTREMELY obvious. My older unit has an absolutely gorgeous display... crystal clear with deep rich colors. My newer unit (now well over a year old) and my son's unit (about a year old) are similar to each other but obviously different than the older unit. In comparison, the new display is brighter but not as sharp and the colors are washed out in comparison. Also, there is a definite "line structure" visible in the newer displays that is not visible at all in the old unit... it is more obvious to the eye if the remote is moving relative to your eyes, as when picking it up to use it.
In addition to the display differences, the newer units exhibit significantly shorter battery life between charges. Programmed identically and with the same usage patterns (by me in both cases), my old unit regularly went 10-14 days between charges... the new unit is lucky to get four days... three is more typical. Swapping batteries and chargers around between units made absolutely no difference.
Without question there have been running changes over the course of the One's production life. The newer units are not bad, per sé, and the differences are not deal breakers all things considered... but they are not quite as good as the original units, either.

I am in the same boat. My old one is like looking at HD compared to the second one I bought for another room a few months ago.

The new screen is terrible. Not only the lines but there is a refresh rate problem too.

My old battery lasts about a month or month and a half compared to the new one which I have to charge every week. Usually it is four days then I have to recharge.

I did the same thing, tried my old charger and battery in the new unit and same results. I never would have bought another new unit if I knew this ahead of time and paid attention to this thread.
post #10340 of 11255
Am I hearing this right, the new Harmony Ones are inferior to the older ones?
Did they change the build quality for the same units?
Was this just a bad stock or the standard way they make the new ones?
post #10341 of 11255
It looks exactly the same except for the screen resolution/lines.

They changed the build quality IMO. It is obvious they did something to the remote that drains the battery quickly. I am sure they could fix that with a Firmware update if they wanted.
post #10342 of 11255
I thought I would chime in regarding some of the changes to the One.

My first one was bought in early 2009. It was replaced back in the summer because of battery problems.

Yes my new charger doesn't have the switch for the light. The screen looks more washed out, with seemingly lower resolution. The screen does seem more responsive. The hard buttons feel better to me. Battery life is no where near as good. My remote does have the same tactile feel on the back.

As for the member who posted about seemingly slow response from components, it does seem that way to me as well. Older remote might have been a tad slower than the new one. Kind of like it takes a millisecond for the remote to generate the signal.
post #10343 of 11255
lately it seems my Harmony One isn't turning on my Xbox half the time when I go to that activity. If I hit "on/off" after it switches to the activity, it will turn it on - so it's not that the device is set up incorrectly. Any ideas?
post #10344 of 11255
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

lately it seems my Harmony One isn't turning on my Xbox half the time when I go to that activity...Any ideas?
3 very basic ideas:
- Has your XBOX undergone a recent update that may have changed its behavior or settings?
- If it's been awhile since you last updated your H1 with your existing account device/activity settings, perhaps a fresh update might help.
- In the Activity settings, sometimes changing the order in which the devices are powered on by the H1 might also help.
post #10345 of 11255
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

3 very basic ideas:
- Has your XBOX undergone a recent update that may have changed its behavior or settings?
- If it's been awhile since you last updated your H1 with your existing account device/activity settings, perhaps a fresh update might help.
- In the Activity settings, sometimes changing the order in which the devices are powered on by the H1 might also help.
Interestingly enough, my Harmony has never worked w/ my 360. It never really mattered, since I have to power up the controller(which turns the console on anyway). If you use the 360 for other stuff like watching movies/tv, it can get old.
post #10346 of 11255
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

Interestingly enough, my Harmony has never worked w/ my 360. It never really mattered, since I have to power up the controller(which turns the console on anyway). If you use the 360 for other stuff like watching movies/tv, it can get old.

Mine neither, I was aware that you needed an adapter like with the PS3 but have never figured out what that was and can not find any info on it. No matter really, I rarely use the Xbox except when the nieces and nephews come over and I have to get up and load a game anyway.
post #10347 of 11255
There's a setting in the xbox itself to enable IR. Then it should work fine, no adapter required. My Xbox is by DVR and cable TV interface, so I use it with my remote constantly. In fact I have a couple of xboxes that are exclusively for cable TV and never used for games.
post #10348 of 11255
I have no problems with Xbox and Harmony One. My son's Xbox works just fine with a Windows Media Center remote.

There is a setting in the menu to set Xbox to respond to Xbox remote, Windows, remote or both.
post #10349 of 11255
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

There's a setting in the xbox itself to enable IR. Then it should work fine, no adapter required. My Xbox is by DVR and cable TV interface, so I use it with my remote constantly. In fact I have a couple of xboxes that are exclusively for cable TV and never used for games.

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Originally Posted by dirk1843 View Post

I have no problems with Xbox and Harmony One. My son's Xbox works just fine with a Windows Media Center remote.
There is a setting in the menu to set Xbox to respond to Xbox remote, Windows, remote or both.

Thanks guys, I had no idea. I will check this out!
post #10350 of 11255
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

There's a setting in the xbox itself to enable IR. Then it should work fine, no adapter required. My Xbox is by DVR and cable TV interface, so I use it with my remote constantly. In fact I have a couple of xboxes that are exclusively for cable TV and never used for games.
Wow, I had no idea about that(after all these years). I'll have to check that out..
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