Originally Posted by caesar1
So, just to clarify -- if I have interkey delay set to 0 and inter device delay set to 0 AND I have repeats set to 0, and the device still is able to be controlled by the Harmony remote -- there is no setting that will make it any faster? That's the best you can hope for?
I noticed that although the volume up/down on my receiver works pretty fast using the Harmony -- it is not quite as fast as the original remote -- if I actually take it out and compare the two. But only I would probably notice the difference (not the average user).
So if my settings are as I indicate, there is no way to have it as fast as the original remote? There isn't some magical combination of repeats and/or delays that might be faster than all set to zero?
What is also confusing is that Harmony's instructions seem to imply that you may get FASTER response by a HIGHER number of repeats (more repeats; not less).
Finally, if repeats at 0 does work for a device, is there ever any reason to still NOT use 0 for that device? In other words, should all devices be tried with 0 as the setting for repeats to ensure fastest response -- and left at 0 if the device actually responds?
This is where repeats gets a little off for me, but I'll try my best to explain.
With everything set to 0, yes that is the fastest the remote will get between key presses.
Example: you are trying to scroll thru an on-screen menu or guide -- you press one of the arrow buttons twice to move in a certain direction -- you pressed the key very fast, but the device seems to lag behind -- basically, you have finished pushing the buttons, but when you look up, the moves in the guide/menu are just now catching up.
In this case, setting the delays to zero and using the minimum number of repeats possible will make the remote the fastest it can be. So, in general, you are correct when you say that you should set everything as low as possible.
However, the speed at which the volume moves when holding down the volume button is a little different. This is the situation when the Harmony software is asking you if the device responds to many times or not (repeat settings). In this case, if the repeats are set low, holding down the volume button will cause the volume to rise slowly, and if repeats are set high, the volume will increase too fast. So, if your volume is going up too slow when holding down the volume key, increasing the number of repeats will speed it up at the cost of slowing down the remote in the other situation above.
The way I understand it is that holding down the volume button for 2 seconds is the equivalent of say, oh, 10 individual key presses.
With repeats set at 0, only 10 volume commands where sent during that 2 seconds and the volume increased ten steps.
With repeats set to 1, the original plus 1 repeat = 2 X 10 = 20 volume commands being sent.
repeats = 2, original + 2 repeats per command = 3 X 10 = 30 commands being sent. Now you can see how repeats affect volume speed.
Repeats cause more commands to be sent per key press. This takes time for the remote to do. So if the repeats are set low, the remote is done sending a command quickly and is ready for the next key press. If the repeats are set high, the remote may still be sending out commands when you press the next button; causing a lag between key presses.
So in your case, you can leave the repeats set low and the remote will be fast when pressing multiple keys in a row, but slow on the volume. Or you can raise the repeats to get the volume to move quicker, at the sacrifice of a little lag between key presses. But then again, moving the repeats up by 1, may be a happy medium for you. You'll just have to test it.
That's the way I understand it and I hope I explained it right. If I didn't, I'm sure someone will correct me.