Official Logitech Harmony One thread - Page 152

360 design snafu. it's probably inherited from a previous version of the 360 player. i've found similar missing commands from other equipments' remotes that are available w/in the harmony database or by sending logitech support the manufacturer remote codes to add it to my setup specifically. they're really great about it, but it takes a few days or so for them to get to setting it up.


you would add it to any of the harmony remote's hard keys or an 'eject' lcd button just like any other command in their database. and yes, i checked earlier today and it is in the database although i don't have that sony model to test it out.


that i don't know. i'm a panasonic bd player man.

I'm still confused. If there is no remote key to eject a disk, then how would the *code* ever get into the database in the first place?

As I understood it, all codes for all equipment in the Harmony database got there when some user programmed their Harmony to learn the code from the original remote, and then somehow uploaded all those codes to the database. But if there is no key on the original remote to do something (like eject a disk), then how could that code ever make it into the database at all?

from my previous post:
"it's probably inherited from a previous version of the 360 player."

in other words, many of the codes are the same from one manfacturer's product to another.

also, i believe that not all the codes come from users. i'm pretty sure that some of them come from manufacturer specs and are added to the harmony software by logi. although, i have been know to be wrong.

Actually I think Harmony usually just looks at it and says "Sony's got a new model the 360 coming out to replace the 350. Lets copy all the 350 commands over in the database and hope that they will work. If they don't the users will learn the commands on their own and we'll update the database later."

It's like TV remotes, almost none of them have buttons that take you directly to each input but those same input commands are in the Harmony database.

It isn't complicated. If the eject button on the BDP-S350 will work with the BDP-S360, then it is a simple thing for Logitech or the Harmony One user to get eject by remote. If it doesn't, then there is probably no way to eject by remote control. I don't know why Sony has eliminated remote eject on the current model but we will know soon enough if the previous remote commands or another remote command work for this function.

Chris

Most devices have a larger repertoire of IR commands than the remotes shipped with them can generate. Discrete power and input commands are the most common. The presence of these buttons on the OE remote can add size, complexity (and cost) without adding functionality (most humans have no trouble navigating menus), but their availability in the device can aid tremendously in system control integration. The logic behind omitting an Eject function from the remote can be questioned, but the fact that the device responds to the standard Sony eject command is quite normal.

The Pioneer remote has a "AV Selection" button that also appears in the device setting for the TV on my H1. I would like to add that "AV Selection" setting to the activities area of "Watch TV" or "Watch Blu-ray movie"on my H1 so I don't have to go back and forth between the activity and the device settings to accomplish this type of change all of the time. How do I add this particular type of code?

Easy... Just go into the activity setups and add whatever commands you want in the Customize Buttons/Additional Buttons section... or even add it to an unused button on the main keypad.

I don't mean to pick on you (at least you recognized that it was silly to have to go into device mode every time), but it amazes me how so many folks fail to take advantage of even the most basic customization features that Harmony remotes offer. Virtually all of the remote's buttons - both hard and soft - are completely customizable in both Device and Activity modes. It is quite a simple matter to get just the commands YOU need/want, arranged just the way YOU want them.

Thanks, that worked like a charm.

It is too bad I can't just program it to just go back & forth between the ISF Day & ISF Night modes but the Pioneer remote doesn't even do that for you and you always have to use the AV Selection button and scroll through all of the modes.

You just might be able to. I can't speak specifically for the Pioneer unit, but my Onkyo receiver has ISF calibration modes as well. The OEM remote only accesses them by going through the menus. However, the Onkyo receiver supports a huge number of discrete commands not supported by the remote, for such things as ISF modes, resolution, Audyssey modes, etc. Onkyo is nice enough to publish an official document containing all the IR code for these commands. I was able to have Harmony tech support add about 20 of these commands for me.

Again, I have no idea what commands the Pioneer actually supports or where you could obtain the IR codes... but the thread here for your Pioneer might be a good place to start... RemoteCentral.com might be another.

I just made the bottom lower left hand button on my H1 (which had nothing assigned to it), to serve as my 151's AV selector. I also used the lower bottom right hand button, which had nothing assigned to it, to serve as my 151's picture aspect button.

There are no discrete controls for this (sadly).

Just create a Macro and assign it to a button. Slightly more complicated, but gets you what you need.

I have 2 macro's for this: ISFDAY and ISFNITE.

Glad it worked out for you. I was pleased, too, how well this performed. I started out as soft keys because I just got our Oppo BDP-83 yesterday and that is the one device I have hooked to the Ext In's. I may add this as an "exiting" command later.....

Congrats on the Oppo!
I really want to be able to program my Harmony for one of these players, but think I'll be waiting for quite a while. (I'm probably # 27,000 in line)

Correct me if I am wrong but the button left button is labeled "clear" and the bottom right is labeled "enter" so I assume that this is meant to work with my DVR although I have never used them.

I already added to each activities touch screen the "AV Selector" command although I would still like to have discrete commands for the ISF Day & Night modes.

I have never created a macro. How do you do this?

Thanks! Only had it a day and half and it (Oppo BDP-83) is everything they said it was. The H1 adds to the enjoyment with 3 devices (player, receiver, and display) to control.

I did ask Logitech to add some keys via an email (actually before I got the player) and even though they sent me an email back stating they did add them it was not so. I ended up "learning" these commands (quite a few - about 10) which was a snap with the H1.

With 27,000 of you to go out there I was trying to avoid all of that for the future owners of this player...

Harmony calls them "sequences"... when you are in the customize buttons section there is a button at bottom left for "add a sequence". You can assign up to 5 commands to a sequence... even from different devices. Once you create and name the sequence, you can assign it to any hard or soft button just like a regular command.

The challenge sometimes is getting your menu navigation steps to 5 or less key presses.

Before I purchased this remote, I had no idea so many people were willing to purchase such an expensive remote. This is the first time I have and the activity in this thread with perhaps a hundred owners or so involved is something I wouldn't have predicted. I have been using inexpensive UEI remotes for years and by JP1 or learning have been able to control everything. This remote is definitely much cooler and the updating process is refined and extremely easy. I decided to use the One in my secondary system and still use a UEI RS 15-2104 in my main system which I have been using for years, only the equipment changes. The UEI remote at a cost of less than 1/10th of what I paid for this will continue to be the main system remote since I have components in front of me, to my right and behind me and I can't picture using the activities based command for that system. The secondary system has everything in front of me and I can point the remote in that direction. It is also cool that my girlfriend can use the Harmony One and loves it.

Now that I have it, I understand the attraction and why so many people love these remotes and I won't laugh at the "clowns" any longer that spend so much for something I can do for a tiny fraction of the cost with any one of the dozen or so UEI JP1 programmable remotes. I understand both groups of users now and I would be laughing at myself too.

Chris

If it weren't for those damn touchscreens (which practically scream "Please! Smear me with your fingerprints and dirty me!"), I'd have bought a Harmony One in seconds. I like its buttons a lot better than those on my 880. But I cannot stand that touchscreen.

If they made a 'Harmony Two' which got rid of the touchscreen, I'd buy one.

I tried to search for my problem, but couldn't find it, I apoligize if it has already been discussed. I have a Harmony One and have programmed a Sony blu ray player. When I play a DVD on the blu ray, everything is fine, but when I play a blu ray disc (at this point I have not changed anything - just eject the DVD and insert the blu ray disc) & after the blu ray disc loads the screen says 'no input signal'. Do I have to do something different to play a blu ray vs playing a DVD. FYI, when I use the original remotes the blu ray player can play both DVD & blu ray discs just fine. Anyone got any ideas?

This can't be a remote issue other than it may be that it is sending an unwanted signal to your equipment at some point. Are you sure you still have the correct input selected for the display? The answer is you should not have to do anything differently to play DVD or Blu-ray from the same player. What player are you using and which display input? My guess is you will have this fixed before you come back to see answers.

Chris

The touchscreen is the only way I can think of to have the ability to display a nice title for so many different activities. I like the touchscreen but there are a lot of remotes without touchscreens so you shouldn't have any problem finding one without a touchscreen. The touchscreen buttons I use primarily are just to get the activity started, then it is hard buttons. I love this remote and can't think of anything needed other than Bluetooth to control my PS3, but even that isn't much of an issue for me.

Chris

Uh, I personally don't care if the touchscreen gets smeared. I guess I'm used to it since I've got 2 toddlers.

Yeah definitely not the remote. Is your Sony Blu-ray player hooked up to an AVR or directly to the TV?

The Logitech Harmony PS3 adapter is on amazon.com and showing as "in-stock" for $59.99.

Brandon

Yup see it. Nice. Says Amazon.com Exclusive. Maybe they got it early?

There is a review of it here on Engadget.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/12/l...icial-real-an/

My remote was losing battery fast, and has been randomly resetting for the past 6 months. I contacted Harmony and they sent me a new battery free. Good people. I hope that was the problem, maybe a dead cell. If not I hope they will send me a new remote - it's less than a year old.