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not sure if anybody is a beach boys fan, but i love most of the music from Pet SOunds and so i bugged my wife for a copy this year.

Well, she unknowingly bought me a friggin awesome copy.

two disc combo with the first disk being the standard mono (original) and stereo (remastered by the SAME engineer using almost the same gear --TUBE MIXING CONSOLE!!!!!!--, original re engineered masters and blessed by Brian Wilson) then the second disc is a DVD with 5.1 mix, and a high res 2 channel mix.

So here we have one program with 4 different versions all mastered by the same guy, with the same producer blessing it all. so the 5.1 mix is not some screwy... look at all the neat things we can do... mix, but something that carries forward the vision of the original team. it is neat, in the liner notes (extensive and technical in nature) it even mentions that in the 5.1 mix the centre channel is minimal as the phantom centre is far superior.

This would make for an awesome listening session, just sitting back listening to one of the greatest rock albums of all time (paul mcartneys words) and comparing the different presentation methods. Many of the debates about the mastering process could be forsaken, and discussion could center around which program is more enjoyable.

It makes me think of two surround (DTS) CD's that i have. A copy of gaucho, which is neat, but does not really add, they just played around with placement a bit. And a 2 disc live bonnie raitt concert which is breathtaking. In that case, it gives you an expansive accurate soundstage with all the air and reverberance of the concert hall. It is a recording that makes you crave ALL live recordings to be surround.

Has anybody ever heard this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Frampton.../dp/6305837074
I had heard stories that Frampton is a HT nut and as such, took a really strong part in the recording and mastering of this one so that the 5.1 mix would really... "Come Alive" (sorry, i couldnt resist)
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not sure if anybody is a beach boys fan, but i love most of the music from Pet SOunds and so i bugged my wife for a copy this year.

Well, she unknowingly bought me a friggin awesome copy.

two disc combo with the first disk being the standard mono (original) and stereo (remastered by the SAME engineer using almost the same gear --TUBE MIXING CONSOLE!!!!!!--, original re engineered masters and blessed by Brian Wilson) then the second disc is a DVD with 5.1 mix, and a high res 2 channel mix.

So here we have one program with 4 different versions all mastered by the same guy, with the same producer blessing it all. so the 5.1 mix is not some screwy... look at all the neat things we can do... mix, but something that carries forward the vision of the original team. it is neat, in the liner notes (extensive and technical in nature) it even mentions that in the 5.1 mix the centre channel is minimal as the phantom centre is far superior.

This would make for an awesome listening session, just sitting back listening to one of the greatest rock albums of all time (paul mcartneys words) and comparing the different presentation methods. Many of the debates about the mastering process could be forsaken, and discussion could center around which program is more enjoyable.

It makes me think of two surround (DTS) CD's that i have. A copy of gaucho, which is neat, but does not really add, they just played around with placement a bit. And a 2 disc live bonnie raitt concert which is breathtaking. In that case, it gives you an expansive accurate soundstage with all the air and reverberance of the concert hall. It is a recording that makes you crave ALL live recordings to be surround.

I have the DVD-A of Pet Sounds and it has a similar number of versions (higher resolutions, lower resolutions, surround, a mono, out takes, etc). I agree, it is an excellent edition of the album. Likely the same versions that are on your album.

I have the SACD version of Gaucho and the recent Universal LP Japan version. Both are better than the songs from the Gaucho on the Decade album. The Decade album speeds them up and has a zingy sound to it. It was very badly mastered (likely sped up to fit everything on one CD...). I haven't compared either to the CD version or to each other, but I am happy with both of them.
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try the bonnie raitt one. the version of "I can't make you love me" is incredible.

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/...oad+Tested.htm
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