Originally Posted by scratch17
Thanks for the info Richard.
Some of you reading this thread have wondered whether the AV8003/MM8003 combo will be worth the extra money over the SR-8002.
I can tell you this.
I absolutely love my SR-8500, which was the first in the Marantz receiver line that produced the SR-8002. If my SR-8500 had the modern codecs and HDMI switching, I'd probably not upgrade.
However, I do expect a really noticeable improvement in overall sound quality when I go to the AV8003/MM8003 combo. I would not expect as big an improvement with a change to the SR-8002.
That said, I think that if you don't have really top quality speakers, you won't hear enough improvement to justify spending the extra coin on the separates. If I had average+ speakers, I'd go with the SR-8002 and spend the extra $3000 on upgrading my speakers.
This is just my opinion. I am basing this on my belief that the Marantz receivers really kick butt for the money. I am not basing this on a belief that there won't be substantial value and extra performance from the Marantz separates. I just think that if you have $5k to spend, make sure your speakers are top shelf before you spend the extra cash on separates.
If you are still on the fence, I'd recommend that you find a dealer that will loan you an SR-8002 demo for a few nights, as long as you put down a decent deposit. Try the receiver with your speakers. If possible, bring it back and get the separates to try out for a day. If you don't immediately go nuts over the separates, bring them back, buy the receiver and upgrade your speakers. The dealer gets his sale and you get the most bang for your buck. A win / win situation all around!
How do you qualify or quantify good vs. bad speakers?
I just upgraded to Paradigm Studio 100 fronts, CC-690 front and 2 surrounds ADP-590. If I tell you I spent 5000$+ , will you consider it's good?
I think it's pretty subjective, because somebody can afford speakers for 10K or 20K and they will call my speakers bad, right?
And regarding receiver. I have Marantz SR8200 for 6 years and don't have any problem with. It's driving my new speakers fine.I love it. Can it be better - I don't know, since I don't have new receiver yet. Reason for upgrade is HDMI switching,Audissey, flexible crossover adjustment.
But considering price of 8002 vs. 8003 combo I have to see real benefits of pre/pro to justify price difference, right? 125W Amp vs. 140W is not much difference.
Right now I have Oppo 981 upconversional DVD player and planning to buy blue ray later this year, Sony 52XBR4, HTPC. Since I have HTPC I don't need any stream functioanlity and probably need only HDMI + new formats decoding. I like new 8003 looking cases - match my Silverstone CW02B, but going to wait for the full specification of 8003 combo, before making decision.