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I found a canvass cloth which I was planning to use for my drawing back in 2004. I still haven't use it. When I looked at it, my eyes told me that it look whiter than my blockout cloth. So I turned on the projector and displayed some pictures and leaned the canvass frame against the boc screen. And my eyes were right, it is brighter than my boc screen.

So guys, are my eyes/camera telling the truth? Is there something wrong with canvass?

Here is a pic which I took few minutes ago.

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Is the canvas raw or was it pre-primed?
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Is the canvas raw or was it pre-primed?

I'll check it later. But I remember, when my brother used to buy canvas, they were like yellowish or dirty white. So looks like it's pre-primed. If so, do you know what paint mixture was used?
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I'll check it later. But I remember, when my brother used to buy canvas, they were like yellowish or dirty white. So looks like it's pre-primed. If so, do you know what paint mixture was used?

Bud is more familiar with artist's canvas and the paints they use on them. It may be one of these Liquitex gesso products or similar.

I think the more important point is that the BOC may actually be allowing some light to pass through. It may not actually be really white either.

If you were wanting a whiter screen you could paint the BOC. You could use Kilz2, Kilz2 Premium , or the Behr ULTRA UPW.

I've lost track of where you are at. Didn't you try the Designer White laminate, and now BOC. I know at one point you were considering a gray screen.

Are looking for a whiter screen now?
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Originally Posted by tiddler View Post

Bud is more familiar with artist's canvas and the paints they use on them. It may be one of these Liquitex gesso products or similar.

I think the more important point is that the BOC may actually be allowing some light to pass through. It may not actually be really white either.

If you were wanting a whiter screen you could paint the BOC. You could use Kilz2, Kilz2 Premium , or the Behr ULTRA UPW.

I've lost track of where you are at. Didn't you try the Designer White laminate, and now BOC. I know at one point you were considering a gray screen.

Are looking for a whiter screen now?

I didn't try DW anymore since another person pm'd me and he is not very happy with the hotspotting he is experiencing with his DW.

And you were right about my screen plans. Sorry, my head keeps on changing all the time. I got distracted when I started working on my diy sub seen on my signature below.

Thanks for the type of paint over BOC.
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So are you wanting a very white screen or were you wondering about using a light gray with some gain?
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Most pre-framed canvas panels come with a gesso coating already on and they have a fairly high reflective index. Canvas also comes bleached and raw. The raw is the more yellow looking stuff.

Tiddler posted above that some light may be passing thru the BOC and that is most likely true, but not totally true. BOC is made not to reflect light even though it does that fairly well. But it is intended to stop light. there is a inner black layer and if some light makes it thru the white it should be absorbed into the black. So you can be loosing light even though you don’t see it coming out the back side.

Paint is better because for the most part it forces reflection at the surface but it has also been shown some light makes its way into the paint. this property is what allows all the “light fusion” type paints with metallic in the mixes to do their thing and along with mirrors under the paint. Todd has a great thread illustrating this.

Painted canvas works as a screen surface no different than any other painted surface except that it has a weave texture. It has been widely debated if super smooth or texture is desired and the jury is still out on that one. I have always felt texture played a key part in a lot of commercial screens and in my testing I felt it gave a desired diffusion of the SDE. Others have disagreed.

If I have some time I’ll look closer at the screen shot above and see if there are any clues as to what is working better in that photo. Its very clear the canvas is brighter.
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