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post #8041 of 8499
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

I had an interesting email today from Netflix saying they had "received" Get the Gringo. Funny thing was I never got it nor had even received their shipping notification. It's out of my queue and in my "shipped" history file now. I clicked on the report a problem in the history list and one of the stock answers even there was "You haven't received the blu-ray disc yet"....so I guess this is a common problem?
Not for me. Was this a movie you actually had in your queue?

The "You haven't received the Blu-ray yet" is for when your queue reports it shipped, but it never arrived (i.e., potentially lost in the mail or stolen). In the past, postal thefts were common in some places.

However, the only time I've ever encounter a movie mistakenly shipped is when I got the wrong disc in the envelope for the movie I requested.

One other time, my queue showed a movie as shipped and the following day it showed returned without my having received it. They must have realized it because it also showed the same movie shipping out to me. I got it the next day along with a torn up address label with my address on it from Netflix, likely from the envelope I was supposed to have originally received. I was in a plastic bag from the post office with a "we're sorry your shipment was damaged" message on it. My guess is, the address flap got torn off and the disc was sent back to Netflix since no one knew where it was supposed to go.
post #8042 of 8499
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

I had an interesting email today from Netflix saying they had "received" Get the Gringo. Funny thing was I never got it nor had even received their shipping notification. It's out of my queue and in my "shipped" history file now. I clicked on the report a problem in the history list and one of the stock answers even there was "You haven't received the blu-ray disc yet"....so I guess this is a common problem?
Not for me. Was this a movie you actually had in your queue?

The "You haven't received the Blu-ray yet" is for when your queue reports it shipped, but it never arrived (i.e., potentially lost in the mail or stolen). In the past, postal thefts were common in some places.

However, the only time I've ever encounter a movie mistakenly shipped is when I got the wrong disc in the envelope for the movie I requested.

One other time, my queue showed a movie as shipped and the following day it showed returned without my having received it. They must have realized it because it also showed the same movie shipping out to me. I got it the next day along with a torn up address label with my address on it from Netflix, likely from the envelope I was supposed to have originally received. I was in a plastic bag from the post office with a "we're sorry your shipment was damaged" message on it. My guess is, the address flap got torn off and the disc was sent back to Netflix since no one knew where it was supposed to go.

Yes, it was a movie in my queue, should have been one of the next ones shipped depending on availability. I have had a very few discs, probably only 2 or 3, that I had to report as never received. Considering that I'm probably in the neighborhood of 1,000 or more discs to date, not too bad at all. I don't think I've ever had a movie that wasn't ordered or didn't match the sleeve though...biggest problem at one point were discs that were so abused by inconsiderate folk as to be unplayable. It's been quite a while since I've had one of those, though.
post #8043 of 8499
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

...biggest problem at one point were discs that were so abused by inconsiderate folk as to be unplayable. It's been quite a while since I've had one of those, though.

Oddly enough, I've had DVDs that looked like they were used for hockey practice that play without issue on my player. Then I get a BD with no signs of any damage, dirt or fingerprints at all that won't play on any player.

I'm starting to think the guys that came up with the whole "hard coat" thing are full of crap.
post #8044 of 8499
My queue shows that Hunger Games should be shipping to me today.
post #8045 of 8499
Same here. Yea. A good week for me, as I also got all the Dexter discs.
post #8046 of 8499
Happy to report my continued sucess in new release shipping .. Hunger Games on the way ..
post #8047 of 8499
Same here. Both new releases shipped early this week as usual.




ron
post #8048 of 8499
It worked here as well, HG for Saturday delivery.smile.gif
post #8049 of 8499
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

It worked here as well, HG for Saturday delivery.smile.gif
Me as well.
post #8050 of 8499
The Hunger Games is also being delivered to me by tomorrow. I think the folks at Netflix knew they had a major test, they risked losing customers on thier DVD service if they had failed to deliver this movie which was I assume on top of people's queues.
post #8051 of 8499
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

The Hunger Games is also being delivered to me by tomorrow. I think the folks at Netflix knew they had a major test, they risked losing customers on thier DVD service if they had failed to deliver this movie which was I assume on top of people's queues.

It seemed like business as usual. It's an extremely rare event if I don't get a new release shipped to me. And 95% of the time I receive them on release day.
post #8052 of 8499
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Originally Posted by daniels1994 View Post

The Hunger Games is also being delivered to me by tomorrow. I think the folks at Netflix knew they had a major test, they risked losing customers on thier DVD service if they had failed to deliver this movie which was I assume on top of people's queues.
...unlike every other giant title that has come out and been available on their service, like Toy Story 3, Avatar, The Dark Knight, Twilight (we still bite), Transformers 3X the Shaky Cam, Inception, Iron Man 2 and the last couple of Harry Potter movies.

There probably wasn't any expectation at all for them.

For real, I'm betting the majority of people eager for this title aren't trying to watch it on BD and likely have no idea either a) when it actually is coming out b) don't know the "Saturday trick" c) are buying it and skipping renting it all together or d) waiting to stream it on their I-phone. I don't think Netflix really cares all that much if disc customers bail, despite them realizing streaming ain't all what they thought it would be.

Seriously, there are still over 4 months left in the year and The Hunger Games is ranked number 5 so far, making about $100 million less than Ice Age 4. The Avengers, which kicked THG's butt in the theaters, would be a better test, but still not a true test since it comes out in September, after several TV season premieres have occurred.

The real test is if Netflix can handle both the holiday gift sign-ups combined with demand for whatever big release comes out around then, especially since they started going whole hog on streaming.
post #8053 of 8499
Can anyone else confirm that the rental copies of The Hunger Games do not have the lossless 7.1 DTS-HD MA audio track? Only 5.1 Dolby Digital 640Kbps.
post #8054 of 8499
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Originally Posted by Sujay View Post

Can anyone else confirm that the rental copies of The Hunger Games do not have the lossless 7.1 DTS-HD MA audio track? Only 5.1 Dolby Digital 640Kbps.
Yup, that's it, an English DD 5.1 and a Spanish DD 5.1, no HD audio track at all.

And the studios think doing this is going to prompt me to buy the disc? It makes me even less inclined to do any such thing.
post #8055 of 8499
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

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Originally Posted by Sujay View Post

Can anyone else confirm that the rental copies of The Hunger Games do not have the lossless 7.1 DTS-HD MA audio track? Only 5.1 Dolby Digital 640Kbps.
Yup, that's it, an English DD 5.1 and a Spanish DD 5.1, no HD audio track at all.

And the studios think doing this is going to prompt me to buy the disc? It makes me even less inclined to do any such thing.

Just goes hand in hand with the rental discs not having the extra features...gotta buy the disc now that you're properly encouraged, right?
post #8056 of 8499
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Yup, that's it, an English DD 5.1 and a Spanish DD 5.1, no HD audio track at all.
And the studios think doing this is going to prompt me to buy the disc? It makes me even less inclined to do any such thing.

That seems like a very odd choice considering the disc is 42GB in size. I could understand if they did like other rental titles and put it on a single layer disc with legacy audio. But to put it on a dual layer BD with only legacy audio? I don't understand.

It certainly does nothing to get me to buy the disc.
post #8057 of 8499
Who knows? It could be as stupid as not wanting people buying ex-rental discs.
post #8058 of 8499
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

Who knows? It could be as stupid as not wanting people buying ex-rental discs.

My disc didn't even have "Rental" on it. Which makes it even more of an odd choice. Although I've had discs with "rental" on it that still had HD audio.
post #8059 of 8499
Posted this in the Hunger Games thread burt would like to know the answer:

According to the Netflix site, not only is the rental DD 5.1 but the video is 1.85 aspect

Amazon lists the movie as DTS 7.1 and 2.40 aspect.

Is this true that the rental disc is 1.85 aspect and 5.1DD (but the purchase gets you DTS 7.1 AND 2.40 Aspect???

If so, what a load of crap from Netflix!!

I know most watch on a flat screen so the 1.85 isn't too much of an issue but for us front projection guys, it is a major problem as my screen is only 10.5' wide in 1.85 mode and 14' wide @ 2.40 aspect!!!biggrin.gif
post #8060 of 8499
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Posted this in the Hunger Games thread burt would like to know the answer:

According to the Netflix site, not only is the rental DD 5.1 but the video is 1.85 aspect

Amazon lists the movie as DTS 7.1 and 2.40 aspect.

Is this true that the rental disc is 1.85 aspect and 5.1DD (but the purchase gets you DTS 7.1 AND 2.40 Aspect???

If so, what a load of crap from Netflix!!

I know most watch on a flat screen so the 1.85 isn't too much of an issue but for us front projection guys, it is a major problem as my screen is only 10.5' wide in 1.85 mode and 14' wide @ 2.40 aspect!!!biggrin.gif

So you think Netflix is the only party involved in the decision? That they alone decided on the rental with lower quality level so that those others, who sell the discs, have something better to offer? The owners of the material had nothing to do with it? I'm not privy to the negotiations but I doubt they were one-sided. So how much more are you willing to pay for rentals to get same discs as for sale?
post #8061 of 8499
Rented from Redbox last night, same audio, DD 5.1. Aspect ratio was 2.4.
post #8062 of 8499
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

So you think Netflix is the only party involved in the decision? That they alone decided on the rental with lower quality level so that those others, who sell the discs, have something better to offer? The owners of the material had nothing to do with it? I'm not privy to the negotiations but I doubt they were one-sided. So how much more are you willing to pay for rentals to get same discs as for sale?

Interesting question. I don't have an HD audio setup, and don't generally watch extra features like "making of" shows, but I do like to watch extended versions and such. But, if the following conditions were met, I'd happily pay 25% more for my subscription. Call it a "premium" subscription:

-Same day release as to retail outlets
-Same full feature discs as sold retail
-PRiority queue placement (so, certain to get the disc first day presuming your return hits on the correct day)

The amount I spend on Netflix is peanuts compared to what I was paying for Cable and I'm generally satisfied with the service. It's just the small things around the edges that bug me.

Marc
post #8063 of 8499
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

So you think Netflix is the only party involved in the decision? That they alone decided on the rental with lower quality level so that those others, who sell the discs, have something better to offer? The owners of the material had nothing to do with it? I'm not privy to the negotiations but I doubt they were one-sided. So how much more are you willing to pay for rentals to get same discs as for sale?

Interesting question. I don't have an HD audio setup, and don't generally watch extra features like "making of" shows, but I do like to watch extended versions and such. But, if the following conditions were met, I'd happily pay 25% more for my subscription. Call it a "premium" subscription:

-Same day release as to retail outlets
-Same full feature discs as sold retail
-PRiority queue placement (so, certain to get the disc first day presuming your return hits on the correct day)

The amount I spend on Netflix is peanuts compared to what I was paying for Cable and I'm generally satisfied with the service. It's just the small things around the edges that bug me.

Marc

I do have a 7 channel setup and it doesn't please me to have to buy the disc (or rent beyond my current Netflix subscription from another service like Vudu that can offer such) to get proper AR or audio, and I do like to watch the extras (which is where Vudu isn't as good as having the proper bluray). If I like the whole package enough, it encourages me to buy the disc. When I agree to pay more for blurays its not just for additional video content, but also the better audio. Maybe Netflix is planning to charge the same for blurays as dvds now? Ha! While I understand it's a business, and that Netflix would like to keep things at certain price points, I'd like a chance at a subscription that includes the extras, including possibly the latest releases asap (but I can always wait a bit, seeing it asap isn't a huge priority). I do wonder about the details behind the deals involved. After posting this I started to wonder if Netflix proposed the lesser content for some cost savings or if it is more on the content owners as I assumed...
Edited by lovinthehd - 8/19/12 at 6:17pm
post #8064 of 8499
I'd buy the disc if the price was more reasonable, $39.95 MSRP and a sale price of $19.95? Get real, if the price was down to say $7 to $10 I would buy a lot of discs, and don't try and tell me the studio won't make money at that price. And what they may lose in revenue per unit they would likely make up in volume.
post #8065 of 8499
I'm thrilled to see new releases under $20 on the release date. I'm more disappointed how quickly they drop down fo $15 and $10 price points, often within a month, and my copy is still in shrinkwrap. Makes me wish Amazon still had their 30 day price guarantee.
post #8066 of 8499
Wow. I found out about the dvd audio on blu-ray from my bro and thought it was a disc & player issue or something else so I didn't quite believe him and then find this thread. Seriously lame.

One more reason to go with slow mo Blockbuster mail rentals as they tend to buy retail, of which my bro has said he hasn't received any blu-rays with the issue from them (he's got accounts going with both - where as I bounce between them due to blu-ray selection). Nor have I for that matter.

The worst of all is that your paying extra for blu-ray from Netflix and not getting all of what you paid for.

(Oh, and btw he said there has been more movies like this than just Hunger Games).
post #8067 of 8499
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Originally Posted by northreign View Post

The worst of all is that your paying extra for blu-ray from Netflix and not getting all of what you paid for.
(Oh, and btw he said there has been more movies like this than just Hunger Games).

There are plenty of examples of retail BD discs with lossy audio as well.
post #8068 of 8499
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Originally Posted by northreign View Post

Wow. I found out about the dvd audio on blu-ray from my bro and thought it was a disc & player issue or something else so I didn't quite believe him and then find this thread. Seriously lame.
One more reason to go with slow mo Blockbuster mail rentals as they tend to buy retail, of which my bro has said he hasn't received any blu-rays with the issue from them (he's got accounts going with both - where as I bounce between them due to blu-ray selection). Nor have I for that matter.
The worst of all is that your paying extra for blu-ray from Netflix and not getting all of what you paid for.
(Oh, and btw he said there has been more movies like this than just Hunger Games).

The extra price paid to get BD rentals with Netflix just makes it cost the same price as Blockbuster. At least with netflix if you only want DVD rentals you can pay less. You don't have that option with Blockbuster.
post #8069 of 8499
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

...unlike every other giant title that has come out and been available on their service, like Toy Story 3, Avatar, The Dark Knight, Twilight (we still bite), Transformers 3X the Shaky Cam, Inception, Iron Man 2 and the last couple of Harry Potter movies.
There probably wasn't any expectation at all for them.
For real, I'm betting the majority of people eager for this title aren't trying to watch it on BD and likely have no idea either a) when it actually is coming out b) don't know the "Saturday trick" c) are buying it and skipping renting it all together or d) waiting to stream it on their I-phone. I don't think Netflix really cares all that much if disc customers bail, despite them realizing streaming ain't all what they thought it would be.
Seriously, there are still over 4 months left in the year and The Hunger Games is ranked number 5 so far, making about $100 million less than Ice Age 4. The Avengers, which kicked THG's butt in the theaters, would be a better test, but still not a true test since it comes out in September, after several TV season premieres have occurred.
The real test is if Netflix can handle both the holiday gift sign-ups combined with demand for whatever big release comes out around then, especially since they started going whole hog on streaming.

The discussion was primarily centered around the odd day of the week release and whether or not the timing trick would work .. apparently it did .. what that has to do with who and what made how much money, I honestly have no idea ..

And, although since personally I saw it at a theater and was not "eager" for the title, and stated as such, you'll have to admit with the lack of big release material over the last few months at least NF stocked up, apparently ..

Lastly, NF has never been able to stock fast and deep enough to keep up with Holiday sign ups .. problem being device apps and the free 30 day deal .. if it's a banner year for TV's and players .. this year may prove to be the exception as sales of the hardware may not be all that much to write home about ..
post #8070 of 8499
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

There are plenty of examples of retail BD discs with lossy audio as well.

Exactly .. and just exactly what are the whiners missing in that 6th and 7th channel anyway .. ??
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