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post #8191 of 8769
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

New Release page up and running fine this AM


http://www2.netflix.com/AllNewReleases.
Here it's just as broken as it was yesterday, no way to access when logged in.
post #8192 of 8769
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Here it's just as broken as it was yesterday, no way to access when logged in.

Odd .. I just pulled it up again, no problem ..
post #8193 of 8769
No problem here with it either while I'm logged in.

Thanks for the link too. I just added Red Dawn to my queue. i wish I would have realized this yesterday so they could have sent it out today.
Edited by aaronwt - 10/8/12 at 12:54pm
post #8194 of 8769
I'm still getting the problem loading the new releases page while logged in. It happens either with Chrome or IE8. My work around is to log out on one browser (say, chrome), and use that browser to review the new releases. The other browser (IE8) remains logged in and I can type in the name of the movie and add it to the queue there. What a pain!
post #8195 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Daveyd View Post

Just received Cabin In The Woods from Netflix and noticed that the HD audio was stripped once again. Instead of DTS-MA 7.1 it has DD 5.1. I noticed this too with Hunger Games. Is this just a Lionsgate rental thing? This really pisses me off to no extent. They charge extra for Blu Ray rentals and now they are crippling them. Extermelly unhappy!mad.gifmad.gif

Came in to post this. The absolute worst part about it is the dts-HD MA stamp on the label.

Lionsgate trolling at its finest.
post #8196 of 8769
Has anyone pressed either Netflix or Lionsgate about the practice? Considering bluray has standards for audio and video quality, it would seem this practice is indefensible.

Specifically if Netflix is advertising the availability of Movie X in Bluray, and they supply a dumbed down cut with lower audio or video quality than the actual Bluray disc, doesn't that put them at risk for false advertising? What's next? Blurays with downresolution graphics?
post #8197 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Has anyone pressed either Netflix or Lionsgate about the practice? Considering bluray has standards for audio and video quality, it would seem this practice is indefensible.
Specifically if Netflix is advertising the availability of Movie X in Bluray, and they supply a dumbed down cut with lower audio or video quality than the actual Bluray disc, doesn't that put them at risk for false advertising? What's next? Blurays with downresolution graphics?

The disks meet the spec ..
post #8198 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Has anyone pressed either Netflix or Lionsgate about the practice? Considering bluray has standards for audio and video quality, it would seem this practice is indefensible.
Specifically if Netflix is advertising the availability of Movie X in Bluray, and they supply a dumbed down cut with lower audio or video quality than the actual Bluray disc, doesn't that put them at risk for false advertising? What's next? Blurays with downresolution graphics?
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

The disks meet the spec ..
Not to mention the fact that Netflix clearly lists what audio tracks are on the BDs, including listing DD only on titles like Cabin in the Woods and Hunger Games.


False advertising, indeed. rolleyes.gif Some people in this thread desperately need a reality check.
post #8199 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Has anyone pressed either Netflix or Lionsgate about the practice? Considering bluray has standards for audio and video quality, it would seem this practice is indefensible.
Specifically if Netflix is advertising the availability of Movie X in Bluray, and they supply a dumbed down cut with lower audio or video quality than the actual Bluray disc, doesn't that put them at risk for false advertising? What's next? Blurays with downresolution graphics?

The BD standards include legacy Dolby Digital.
post #8200 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Steeb View Post

Not to mention the fact that Netflix clearly lists what audio tracks are on the BDs, including listing DD only on titles like Cabin in the Woods and Hunger Games.
False advertising, indeed. rolleyes.gif Some people in this thread desperately need a reality check.

Well, I can't blame anyone for wanting all they think they should get .. however, I do think a certain degree of perspective as it relates to price as well as the minimal, if any audible sonic improvement an HD codec has over a DD ..
post #8201 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Steeb View Post

Not to mention the fact that Netflix clearly lists what audio tracks are on the BDs, including listing DD only on titles like Cabin in the Woods and Hunger Games.
False advertising, indeed. rolleyes.gif Some people in this thread desperately need a reality check.

When the disc label itself (not the Netflix envelope description) specifically shows dts-HD Master Audio and all you get is Dolby Digital 5.1, I think that's pretty false of advertising on Lionsgate's part. Unfortunately I just sent it back, or I'd take pictures.
post #8202 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Steeb View Post

False advertising, indeed. rolleyes.gif Some people in this thread desperately need a reality check.

I understand where you are coming from, but if I rent a "Cabin in the woods Blu-ray" and the "Cabin in the woods Blu-ray" generally contains the high def master audio track, I would expect my rental disc to include that master audio track. It's true that NF includes a description of the available tracks on their site, so false advertising probably doesn't apply, but it's a disgraceful practice by the studio for doing it and by NF for putting up with it due to contractual angst. What's next? Blu-rays with 480i video, still "in spec" due to using a supported encoding format, but with no more resolution than a DVD would provide?

Though I never watch extra content, I hated it when the "rental-stripped" discs started showing up without the content. And I feel the same way about the audio-stripped discs that are showing up now.
post #8203 of 8769
I had an interesting occurrence today.

My queue from top working backward was:

Mad Men Season 5 disc 1 (New Release)
Mad Men Season 5 disc 2 (New Release)
Mad Men Season 5 disc 3 (New Release)
Iron Sky (Very Long Wait)
Damages, Season 4, Disc 1 (Very Long Wait)
Hatfields & McCoys, disc 1 (very Long Wait)
Hatfields & McCoys, disc 2 (no wait status)
Excision (New Release)
...

What I got was Mad Men disc 1, Hatfields & McCoys disc 1, and Excision. A nice group of discs, and I'm happy enough particularly for getting the first Mad Men disc, but every SINGLE time without exception, if I get a TV series new release disc 1, and I also had disc 2 (and so on) in the queue in proper order, I also got that second disc. Since I had three returns hit today, and since I got MMd1, I would have expected to also get MMd2 and MMd3. This is the absolute first time in three years I didn't score multiples in the series when I had enough returns to do so. It's also interesting to note that it skipped Hatfields & McCoys disc 2 and gave me Excision. While logically not "wrong" in any way, the departure from the previously-for-me rigid pattern of giving multiples in a series is interesting enough to make me wonder if they are changing their disc allocation algorithms or something.

I wonder if they buy fewer of "disc 2" and so on, under the assumption that some people watch the first disc of a series and then don't pursue it, leading to lighter demand for subsequent discs. I also imagine that relatively few folks rent more than the first disc in a series on release day, figuring that it will take a while to watch through the first disc and get ready for the second. So not getting discs 2 and 3 in this case was a surprise. But on the other hand I got H&M which I've been wanting since it released many weeks ago, and Excision that looks interesting, so it was a good day.

Marc
post #8204 of 8769
As a follow up to my above post, I had a nice surprise yesterday (Tuesday). I got an email telling me they we're sending me MM disc 2 from a remote location due to unavailable locally. So I got a bonus disc. Very nice; thanks NF! :thumbup:
post #8205 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

As a follow up to my above post, I had a nice surprise yesterday (Tuesday). I got an email telling me they we're sending me MM disc 2 from a remote location due to unavailable locally. So I got a bonus disc. Very nice; thanks NF! :thumbup:

Netflix has always been great about giving a bonus disc when the shipping time will take longer because the disc is coming from a center farther away. I've had that happen numerous times in the past.
post #8206 of 8769
Due to the need to catch up on the content on my DVR as well as not a whole lot of new stuff coming out, I suspended my BD program the other day (kept the streaming) .. I plan on reactivating in a month or two ..

Question : since I've never done this before, I was surprised to find I can no longer access my disc Q .. is that just the way it is or is there some sort of backdoor way in .. ??
post #8207 of 8769
I think it's just the way it is, but the Q will be there once you reactivate. At least that's how it was for me when I deactivated it for a month.
post #8208 of 8769
Yea! I got Prometheus. Recently new releases have been spottier than usual but it worked out well for me today!
post #8209 of 8769
I am starting to have the same problem signing in as we had a number of months ago. I have to delete the cookie in order to sign in. I haven't seen anyone else having this problem yet. I use Firefox 16. I am having no other problems with any other site. Anyone else?
post #8210 of 8769
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Originally Posted by iolmaster View Post

I am starting to have the same problem signing in as we had a number of months ago. I have to delete the cookie in order to sign in. I haven't seen anyone else having this problem yet. I use Firefox 16. I am having no other problems with any other site. Anyone else?

no problem here with FF 16.0.2.

But this issue is often specific to certain accounts. Might have to do with specific servers, etc.
post #8211 of 8769
Checked my queue this morning and The Dark Knight Rises now shows up with a release date of 12/4. I thought there was a 2 month wait on WB discs with Netflix.
post #8212 of 8769
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Originally Posted by bob13654 View Post

Checked my queue this morning and The Dark Knight Rises now shows up with a release date of 12/4. I thought there was a 2 month wait on WB discs with Netflix.

I don't know if I would put too much stock in what NF shows .. or maybe NF plans on buying retail .. who knows ..
post #8213 of 8769
regarding signing in: I noticed I have to put my password in each time on IE9 even if I have told it to remember me. Doesn't happen on other browsers and didn't work this way in IE8. I just went to IE9 over the weekend and noticed this behavior.
post #8214 of 8769
I just got both Prometheus and The Raven and when I choose the DTS Master in the audio menu my receiver only shows DTS. I checked some other discs (retail) and it shows DTS Master on the receiver. Are these titles stripped of the Master audio also? The menu shows the Master track, but the receiver is not showing it is receiving it.
post #8215 of 8769
The Prometheus rental has DTS-MA audio. Perhaps you have Secondary Audio enabled on your player?
post #8216 of 8769
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The Prometheus rental has DTS-MA audio. Perhaps you have Secondary Audio enabled on your player?

Nope I tried a number of other discs that are DTS-MA and they displayed the Master Audio on the receiver display. Could not get it with the Prometheus. Even after choosing the DTS-MA track. Receiver display just showed DTS.
post #8217 of 8769
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Originally Posted by iolmaster View Post

Nope I tried a number of other discs that are DTS-MA and they displayed the Master Audio on the receiver display. Could not get it with the Prometheus. Even after choosing the DTS-MA track. Receiver display just showed DTS.

Don't know what to tell you, other than the rental disc DOES have DTS-MA, I'm looking at the de-muxed audio right now and I watched it yesterday. Not all discs have secondary audio, and some JAVA discs even try to force it when you have it turned off. Depends on the player how it responds to that. But when it's enabled in the player, not every disc will use it so you can see some with MA and some with plain DTS being sent to your AVR. One clue: if you're hearing button sounds in the disc menu, Secondary Audio is enabled. If you hear audio when using PIP features on the disc, Secondary Audio is enabled.
post #8218 of 8769
Just wanted to chime in for a second and say that I got Prometheus on Tuesday and it did indeed have DTS-MA. Also, If I remember correctly, no trailers and very little warnings. Probably the most hassle-free Netflix BD rental in a looooong time.
post #8219 of 8769
Yeah, I figured it out. About two weeks ago I had to reset my BD player back to factory defaults. Secondary Audio is on by default. I did not go back and turn it off. Odd how some titles still showed that the receiver was getting DTS-MA. Thanks for the reminder guys. I totally forgot.
post #8220 of 8769
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Originally Posted by iolmaster View Post

Yeah, I figured it out. About two weeks ago I had to reset my BD player back to factory defaults. Secondary Audio is on by default. I did not go back and turn it off. Odd how some titles still showed that the receiver was getting DTS-MA. .

Like I said: this is normal. Not all discs use Secondary Audio so they will send DTS-MA audio from the player.
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