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post #8461 of 8769
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Originally Posted by iamian View Post

It's not in their best interest to let you know what all the new releases are.

I'm not entirely sure I agree... It would seem like advertising their new releases would be a selling point for their service. And their movie "new this week" listings seem to be up to date. I'm more inclined to blame the lack of complete TV new release information as incompetence / inattention on their part than as part of some intentional plan.

But I'm open to learning other opinions. IS there a way it helps their interests to be ...discrete?... about some of the new releases? I'm curious!
post #8462 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

But I'm open to learning other opinions. IS there a way it helps their interests to be ...discrete?... about some of the new releases? I'm curious!

Demand for new releases is high, TV series especially so. High demand = need for more discs to be bought = more costs. Once demand drops, there are many discs sitting on shelves not being rented.
Netflix has always attempted to limit access to new releases, they just keep coming up with creative news ways to do so.
post #8463 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

I'm not entirely sure I agree... It would seem like advertising their new releases would be a selling point for their service. And their movie "new this week" listings seem to be up to date. I'm more inclined to blame the lack of complete TV new release information as incompetence / inattention on their part than as part of some intentional plan.

But I'm open to learning other opinions. IS there a way it helps their interests to be ...discrete?... about some of the new releases? I'm curious!

In the case of a TV series, I'm sure NF would prefer, if possible, to obtain the streaming rights and force most to watch it that way .. thus cutting down inventory / saving money .. based on NF history, I would highly doubt incompetence / inattention ..

In the case of a film, the NF new release date does not always coincide with the B&M / retail street date ..

But of course, we can only speculate ..
post #8464 of 8769
Fair enough. I suppose the "Spread the demand by making new releases less obvious" idea holds merit. Thanks for posting.

As to the preference to go to a streaming model: if only they could get their tech up to speed. I watched the first episode of "Hemlock Grove," the NF original series, on recommendation of a friend. Despite my fast connection it was very grainy---you could see jaggies and stuff. Almost unwatchable (on my big screen). I thought: screw this, I'm just going to rent the blurays. I went to my queue and tried to add it, but it turns out it's available ONLY on streaming. No discs of any sort. Sigh...
post #8465 of 8769
Odd. Just watched The Last Stand. I was worried that it would only be standard dolby digital. However it was lossless but only in 5.1.......odd. So the way they choose to strip the rental discs down is to leave it lossless but take away 2 extra back channels? That's kind of funny honestly.
post #8466 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Fair enough. I suppose the "Spread the demand by making new releases less obvious" idea holds merit. Thanks for posting.

As to the preference to go to a streaming model: if only they could get their tech up to speed. I watched the first episode of "Hemlock Grove," the NF original series, on recommendation of a friend. Despite my fast connection it was very grainy---you could see jaggies and stuff. Almost unwatchable (on my big screen). I thought: screw this, I'm just going to rent the blurays. I went to my queue and tried to add it, but it turns out it's available ONLY on streaming. No discs of any sort. Sigh...
I have a 120 inch screen and I don't notice all those imperfections. I think some of that is the device and connection for some people. Of course you probably have a better eye than me.
post #8467 of 8769
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

In the case of a TV series, I'm sure NF would prefer, if possible, to obtain the streaming rights and force most to watch it that way .. thus cutting down inventory / saving money .. based on NF history, I would highly doubt incompetence / inattention ..

In the case of a film, the NF new release date does not always coincide with the B&M / retail street date ..

But of course, we can only speculate ..

Do you have open connect? In some cases it can make a significant impact on streaming quality, especially when there's a lot of traffic.

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Originally Posted by WannaKnowTech View Post

Odd. Just watched The Last Stand. I was worried that it would only be standard dolby digital. However it was lossless but only in 5.1.......odd. So the way they choose to strip the rental discs down is to leave it lossless but take away 2 extra back channels? That's kind of funny honestly.

Petty is a better word for it. wink.gif


Ian
post #8468 of 8769
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Originally Posted by WannaKnowTech View Post

Odd. Just watched The Last Stand. I was worried that it would only be standard dolby digital. However it was lossless but only in 5.1.......odd. So the way they choose to strip the rental discs down is to leave it lossless but take away 2 extra back channels? That's kind of funny honestly.

That's fine by me. I'd rather still have it lossless and go down to 5.1 channels than go to legacy audio. Which would also be 5.1
post #8469 of 8769
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

In the case of a TV series, I'm sure NF would prefer, if possible, to obtain the streaming rights and force most to watch it that way .. thus cutting down inventory / saving money .. based on NF history, I would highly doubt incompetence / inattention ..

There is nothing keeping them from obtaining the streaming rights except the large sum of money it would take. The irony is Netflix makes more money from disc rental subs than from streaming subs yet they seem indifferent towards us.
post #8470 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland View Post

There is nothing keeping them from obtaining the streaming rights except the large sum of money it would take. The irony is Netflix makes more money from disc rental subs than from streaming subs yet they seem indifferent towards us.

Just my 2 cents, but I use both services and at this point I have no complaints. The quality of movies available for streaming could be better, but at 8 bucks a month I can't complain. Hopefully with the development of more original programing things will improve, but I expect the price to go up. I watch 2 to 3 new BD releases every week and I usually get the titles I want.


Ian
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Anyone else not get disc received notification emails today, despite having discs show up at Netflix? I had three discs received today and got notification of three discs being sent to me but never received any of the usual "We received xxxxx movie" emails.
post #8472 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Anyone else not get disc received notification emails today, despite having discs show up at Netflix? I had three discs received today and got notification of three discs being sent to me but never received any of the usual "We received xxxxx movie" emails.

Ditto.
post #8473 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Anyone else not get disc received notification emails today, despite having discs show up at Netflix? I had three discs received today and got notification of three discs being sent to me but never received any of the usual "We received xxxxx movie" emails.


Nope. But if it's been deleted from the section of the Queue that shows your discs at home, as we say here in Jersey, forget about it. cool.gif



Ian biggrin.gif
post #8474 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Anyone else not get disc received notification emails today, despite having discs show up at Netflix? I had three discs received today and got notification of three discs being sent to me but never received any of the usual "We received xxxxx movie" emails.

This morning I got notification emails that they received two titles from me today and also received notification emails that they shipped me two titles today.

i did have issues accessing my Netflix queue this morning on their website.
post #8475 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Anyone else not get disc received notification emails today, despite having discs show up at Netflix? I had three discs received today and got notification of three discs being sent to me but never received any of the usual "We received xxxxx movie" emails.
Same with me, except I didn't get notification either way. My queue shows they received the disc I sent back and that they sent a new release I had in my queue. No emails, though.
post #8476 of 8769
I *usually* get the email that they received what I sent...and I usually *DON'T* get the email that says what they've sent...

in fact, I get the email survey for "when did you mail this disc" more often than I get the sent email...
post #8477 of 8769
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Same with me, except I didn't get notification either way. My queue shows they received the disc I sent back and that they sent a new release I had in my queue. No emails, though.

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Originally Posted by Ron View Post

I *usually* get the email that they received what I sent...and I usually *DON'T* get the email that says what they've sent...

in fact, I get the email survey for "when did you mail this disc" more often than I get the sent email...




That's odd. I usually get both ship and receive emails every week.



Ian
post #8478 of 8769
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post


That's odd. I usually get both ship and receive emails every week.

Ian
So do I.

I got both notifications for the DVD I sent back on Tuesday, though, so things appear to be back to normal.
post #8479 of 8769
I'm giving up on renting Blu-ray. seven of the last eight discs have been either unplayable or had unreadable sections that I had to skip over. Instant View doesn't look very good but at least it works.
post #8480 of 8769
My bluray failure rate is about one out of twenty. Could there be a problem / sensitivity issue with your drive? Or a mailman that likes to stomp your discs?
post #8481 of 8769
My failure rate is probably 1 out of 50. Maybe even lower than than. It's very rare I get a messed up BD from Netflix.
post #8482 of 8769
Another note about the 1 in 20 failure rate I mentioned. In almost every case, there is a visible physical defect in the failure disc. Most recent one was a week ago I got one that looked like someone tried and failed to use a hole punch on it: weird circular aberration. But it was months before that since I had a failed bluray.

If you find that visibly OK discs fail frequently, your drive has a problem.
post #8483 of 8769
I rent 2 to 3 BD's a week and rarely get a bad disc. The few that were a problem had no physical defects such as scratches to speak of, and they were brand new releases. I can only assume that they were defective.



Ian
post #8484 of 8769
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

I rent 2 to 3 BD's a week and rarely get a bad disc. The few that were a problem had no physical defects such as scratches to speak of, and they were brand new releases. I can only assume that they were defective.

in my case. i find this to be exactly true.
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Originally Posted by Marc_G View Post

Another note about the 1 in 20 failure rate I mentioned. In almost every case, there is a visible physical defect in the failure disc.
If you find that visibly OK discs fail frequently, your drive has a problem.

i find this to be untrue. in my case.
post #8485 of 8769
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Originally Posted by Fabricator View Post

i find this to be untrue. in my case.
In my case, it was true.

I had a player that started having trouble with an increasing number of discs. At first, I thought I was having bad luck with bad discs until it became more often than that would be possible for and I started checking them in my computer.

I replaced the player and the problem went away.
post #8486 of 8769
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

In my case, it was true.

I had a player that started having trouble with an increasing number of discs. At first, I thought I was having bad luck with bad discs until it became more often than that would be possible for and I started checking them in my computer.

I replaced the player and the problem went away.


Did you try cleaning the lens?


Ian
post #8487 of 8769
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

Did you try cleaning the lens?

Yes, I used a cleaning disc. It did nothing.

I have no problems with the hundred or so Blu-rays I've bought but the problems with rental Blu-rays are very consistent. I usually have to clean them before they even start, then clean them again before they make it to the main menu, then it's just a countdown before it gets to the part of the disc that's unreadable. Sometimes the disc will lock up with "Copyright Violation" which is pretty funny.

Even crazier, sometimes a disc will work, then the next day it won't even start. I haven't even pulled it out of the player! How is that possible?

There are never any obvious physical defects in the discs.
post #8488 of 8769
This behavior is emblematic of a marginal drive. Get a new one and your problems will go away. Rental discs may pick up more minor defects and such and a marginal drive will be more sensitive to them. Switch to a new player.
post #8489 of 8769
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Originally Posted by scowl View Post

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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

Did you try cleaning the lens?

Yes, I used a cleaning disc. It did nothing.

I have no problems with the hundred or so Blu-rays I've bought but the problems with rental Blu-rays are very consistent. I usually have to clean them before they even start, then clean them again before they make it to the main menu, then it's just a countdown before it gets to the part of the disc that's unreadable. Sometimes the disc will lock up with "Copyright Violation" which is pretty funny.

Even crazier, sometimes a disc will work, then the next day it won't even start. I haven't even pulled it out of the player! How is that possible?

There are never any obvious physical defects in the discs.

From what I can tell cleaning discs do little in any case; the better lens cleaning solution involves taking the player apart...with an Elmer Fudd warning....be vewy vewy careful!

Sounds also to me like your player. Most of the disc problems I've had over the years are player related, although at times I thought it was the disc. Some players are just weaker than others. My PS3 plays virtually every disc while many discs in my Samsung BDD6100 will hang up or stutter; sometimes cleaning can help but not always. I'm about to chuck the BDD6100 (also has more wifi issues).
post #8490 of 8769
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

From what I can tell cleaning discs do little in any case; the better lens cleaning solution involves taking the player apart...with an Elmer Fudd warning....be vewy vewy careful!

Sounds also to me like your player. Most of the disc problems I've had over the years are player related, although at times I thought it was the disc. Some players are just weaker than others. My PS3 plays virtually every disc while many discs in my Samsung BDD6100 will hang up or stutter; sometimes cleaning can help but not always. I'm about to chuck the BDD6100 (also has more wifi issues).

Second that .. very very rare that either of my PS3's have a problem .. I believe one of the less touted features of a PS3 is it's error correction ability, or perhaps the quality of the drive itself ..
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