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post #361 of 3682
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Originally Posted by pulsation View Post

With Denon, Marantz and other "high-end" brands, you supposedley are paying for build quality first, functionality second. I agree that it makes little sense to spend $1000-$2000 or more on a Blu-Ray player that has half the functionality of the Panasonic BD50 or the PS3.

I have no problems dishing out dough on "the best of the best". Of course, I'd like to know that I'm going to have "the best of the best" for a while. With the new Denon's, they don't even meet the latest profile, so it makes me sad on the inside.

I had bought one of the first HD-DVD's (HD-A1). That thing is built like a tank. Awesome fit an finish. I "upgraded" to the HD-A35 to get bitstream out, 1080p, and faster load times. The A35 isn't 1/10th of the fit and finish of the A1. So, I'm all for spending a bit more for "better". I'd just like to know when I'm picking it up at the store, that it hasn't already been replaced (or soon to be replaced).

Sooo... I'm waiting on the Panny 50. It seems to have what I want. Even if it was priced at $1000, would be worth it considering the lack of options in it's category.
post #362 of 3682
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Originally Posted by wires1 View Post

Sooo... I'm waiting on the Panny 50. It seems to have what I want. Even if it was priced at $1000, would be worth it considering the lack of options in it's category.

All that work we did a week or so ago trying to get the price down, just got wiped out
post #363 of 3682
They'll charge what they want to charge, and quite frankly, considering they have the only 2.0 player, they do have the upper hand.

But, that being said, if it's $500-$700 I'd buy is ASAP. For $1000 I'd probably wait and see if my PS3 can do what I need.

Also, if they do price it lower, I could see them selling a lot of them. Problem is the war is still volatile, and spending a lot of money on something that might now survive is a concern for people. But you're willing to spend less on something, even if it goes away (just for the ride....)
post #364 of 3682
Maybe you didn't read the series of post awhile back. It was just a joke and nothing against you. I am more interested in functionality than price. I paid $1100 for my BD10 the first week it came out and couldn't be happier.
post #365 of 3682
Can anyone tell me or point me to a list of the know differences between the BD30 and BD50? I am just trying to decide if I want to wait or buy now.

I have a HDMI receiver so the decoding isn't that important to me. I also have an older Sony 60" GWIII.
post #366 of 3682
No worries, my post before says it how I feel. I'd pay $1000 for it, but since I have a PS3 which can do most of what I'm looking for, and is supposed to be upgraded to 2.0, if it was $1000, I'd wait a bit. But $700 and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

The BD30 only sends out the HD audio (TrueHD DTS-MA) (won't decode it inside), so you need an amp that can if you want to hear it. And the 50 will have ethernet + profile 2.0 support. If you want a "future proof" (if that is even possible with blu-ray) then holding out for the 50 is the way to go.
post #367 of 3682
It's unlikely, but I would like to see Panasonic come out with a player that did not have the analog outputs and bitstreaming capability of the BD-50 and make it available at $300 MSRP.

Then the BD-50 could be priced at $500, and there would be a clear choice for consumers between price and performance. Those not needing all the advanced features could buy in at a lower admission price. I think it's a mistake for a manufacturer to produce a single product for a product line, no matter how small the market currently is.

This wish is probably a result of the fact that I don't think the BD50 will come in at $500. My guess is $600, which is too high for this consumer, and I'm willing to spend more than most everyone I know.
post #368 of 3682
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Originally Posted by BigScreen View Post

It's unlikely, but I would like to see Panasonic come out with a player that did not have the analog outputs and bitstreaming capability of the BD-50 and make it available at $300 MSRP.

Then the BD-50 could be priced at $500, and there would be a clear choice for consumers between price and performance. Those not needing all the advanced features could buy in at a lower admission price. I think it's a mistake for a manufacturer to produce a single product for a product line, no matter how small the market currently is.

This wish is probably a result of the fact that I don't think the BD50 will come in at $500. My guess is $600, which is too high for this consumer, and I'm willing to spend more than most everyone I know.


According to Maxpower1987 it will be lower than that.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=31885&page=5
post #369 of 3682
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I have a HDMI receiver so the decoding isn't that important to me. I also have an older Sony 60" GWIII.

Assuming that the GWIII is not HDMI, would this work? My (probably faulty) understanding is that the HDMI "circuit" (ending with the display) must be complete for the handshake to work. In other words, running video HDMI directly to the display and running analog for sound would work (because the display completes the circuit), but running component for thevideo and HDMI to an AVR would not. Is this correct? I was looking at doing this (my display is not HDMI and I have no intention of upgrading until this one breaks, or the ICT is switched "on"), but held back because I didn't think it would work.
post #370 of 3682
I've run HDMI directly to my Pioneer plasma, and analog outs for audio into my AVR. It works with the Samsung BD-P1000, the oldest player out there. I can't see how it wouldn't work with the modern players. Just set your input options on the AVR for "external in/analog in" and you should be all set.

Lee
post #371 of 3682
when is the BD50 OUT im buying one i have a bd10a getting the new one to get DTS-HD-MA.
post #372 of 3682
As long as the player comes out at around $500 or less and they fix the LFE issue, the BD50 is a great option. Of course, if the PS3 get's DTS-MA decoding then I'll have to consider that option too.
post #373 of 3682
Does this player use the same video Engine as BD30?
post #374 of 3682
Lee, what about the other way around. I mean, HDMI to the AVR for the sound, and component to the display?
post #375 of 3682
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Originally Posted by Ruined View Post

IN all honesty (not a joke post) I would not buy the Panasonic BD50 for more than $499 if it features the same terrible standard DVD upscaling of the BD30.

Take a clue from the HD DVD players and get your upconverting act together Panasonic!

+1

FWIW, after owning the A3 for a while and experiencing its upconverting performance I am spoiled. I can't see owning any HD player that has anything less than stellar performance. You'd think this is a given in a >$200 player by now.

PS They'd better fix the LFE bug, too.
post #376 of 3682
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

I'd go with the higer end reciever. Media players will come and go, but a receiver could/should last a few years.

Besides, the 705 decodes SACD, should you be interested in that.
post #377 of 3682
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Originally Posted by BigScreen View Post

It's unlikely, but I would like to see Panasonic come out with a player that did not have the analog outputs and bitstreaming capability of the BD-50 and make it available at $300 MSRP.

Then the BD-50 could be priced at $500, and there would be a clear choice for consumers between price and performance. Those not needing all the advanced features could buy in at a lower admission price. I think it's a mistake for a manufacturer to produce a single product for a product line, no matter how small the market currently is.

This wish is probably a result of the fact that I don't think the BD50 will come in at $500. My guess is $600, which is too high for this consumer, and I'm willing to spend more than most everyone I know.


AT $500 I'll buy two. One for me and one for my father-in-law. As long as it puts out a clean 480i signal my pre/pro will do all the up converting I need for SD-DVDs.
post #378 of 3682
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Originally Posted by rveras View Post

According to Maxpower1987 it will be lower than that.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=31885&page=5

Good. Hope Max is right.
Can't see these fellow BD enthusiasts getting excited about dropping one thousand dollars on a player. Not when my A30 cost $199. Looking to channel some of that "economic stimulus package" to go format neutral this year, but not for a grand!
In fact, why not have it be less than the BD30?
You know this is America,... better faster cheaper!
; )
post #379 of 3682
I'm just worried about the LFE issue, its one reason why I don't just go out and get the BD30......
post #380 of 3682
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Originally Posted by ANSEK View Post

AT $500 I'll buy two. One for me and one for my father-in-law. As long as it puts out a clean 480i signal my pre/pro will do all the up converting I need for SD-DVDs.

Could you use another father-in-law?
post #381 of 3682
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Originally Posted by rstand View Post

Could you use another father-in-law?

Does that include another wife?
post #382 of 3682
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Originally Posted by JDChapier View Post

Does that include another wife?

Too much work
post #383 of 3682
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Originally Posted by madkaw View Post

Too much work


+1, and too expensive
post #384 of 3682
Will the BD50 bitstream or only decode internally?
post #385 of 3682
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Originally Posted by mchuckp View Post

Will the BD50 bitstream or only decode internally?

Both
post #386 of 3682
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Originally Posted by rstand View Post

Could you use another father-in-law?

One is enough for now.
post #387 of 3682
This is a good link when trying to compare capabilities and decoders between different players:

http://www.idoblu.co.uk/page2%20Blu-ray%20Players.html
post #388 of 3682
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Originally Posted by Manamb View Post

This is a good link when trying to compare capabilities and decoders between different players:

http://www.idoblu.co.uk/page2%20Blu-ray%20Players.html

Great Link--THANKS!!! It was surprising to see that out of all of the high def players listed that ONLY 3 meet profile 2 standards.

MikeSp
post #389 of 3682
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Originally Posted by REFLEX View Post

I'm just worried about the LFE issue, its one reason why I don't just go out and get the BD30......

Please summarise the LFE issue
Thanks mark
post #390 of 3682
I thought the BD30 was playing a lot of LFE tracks at 5db lower than they should be?
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