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post #511 of 5058
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Originally Posted by jhferry View Post

Where do you see that number for the 2008 models?

It's on the samsung site, but only for the 50.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/d...HL50A650C1FXZA
post #512 of 5058
Hmm your right, and it says "highest contrast ratio"

Must be a mistake.

Still very weird how the specs are like shrouded in secrecy.
post #513 of 5058
Definitely weird, and even if it Native vs. Dynamic, why would you ever Market the lower number? Isn't the point to get people to want to buy your TV?

I was inches away from buying the HL-T7288W a few weeks ago, and now I feel like this is never going to end. Especially since the new 72 doesn't look like it will be out for 2-3 months.
post #514 of 5058
I just talked to a tier 2 person at Samsung. Basically he had nothing but he did suggest that contrast ratio could be 25,000:1

Again, he had no info on any sets so he pulled that out of nowhere.
post #515 of 5058
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NDRugby View Post

It's on the samsung site, but only for the 50.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/d...HL50A650C1FXZA

I see now the 50A650, 56A650, and 61A650 listed on Samsung site. (link to data sheets)

Although the data sheets doesn't specify type of HDMI used, the user manual has AnyNet+ diagram shows this A650 series uses HDMI 1.3.
post #516 of 5058
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

I see now the 50A650, 56A650, and 61A650 listed on Samsung site. (link to data sheets)

Data sheet doesn't specify type of HDMI?

True. But unless they updated it, I think those data sheets all have TBDs in the specs.
post #517 of 5058
PDF for the 61 model says CEC enabled, thats HDMI 1.3 for sure.
post #518 of 5058
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jhferry View Post

PDF for the 61 model says CEC enabled, thats HDMI 1.3 for sure.

I updated my post as soon as the user manual was downloaded.

But just a FYI CEC has been in use since HDMI 1.0, but there are new commands available with HDMI 1.3a.
post #519 of 5058
When looking through the user manual, I see that there is finally a setting that suggest that the led will truely vary the brightness depending on the seen. Though the led control in the detailed setting shows that there are only 5 levels, maybe the auto setting may have more levels available to it. The dynamic contrast ratio may be greatly increased if this is the case.
post #520 of 5058
When taking a quick look through the manual, the first thing that struck me was:

Why do they only have one rf input? The older models, at least the HL-R models, had two, one for an antenna, and one for cable. I use both! And to top it off, they spend 1/2 a page showing how to connect a manual A/B switch.

And of course, the lack of cablecard capability is another pain. Seems like Samsung (and other TV manufacturers) are now in league with the cable companies to require you to rent their cable boxes. Very disappointing.

I wonder if they mount the LEDs using the same glue they used to mount the mirrors in the light tunnels?
post #521 of 5058
Why buy these if they are going to exit the business?
post #522 of 5058
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Originally Posted by mikesan2 View Post

Why buy these if they are going to exit the business?


If it meets your needs in terms of size and cost what's not to like. It's not like you're going to trade it in year after year on another one like a car. So if Samsungs decides to stop producing them at some point, it will still give you years of enjoyment.
post #523 of 5058
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Originally Posted by JoeSony View Post

If it meets your needs in terms of size and cost what's not to like. It's not like you're going to trade it in year after year on another one like a car. So if Samsungs decides to stop producing them at some point, it will still give you years of enjoyment.

Agree. The choice for me is based on getting the highest quality big screen that fits within my budget. Since I want a screen 67 or bigger, DLP is the best choice and Samsung is my favorite DLP.
post #524 of 5058
Well so far what the PCmall rep has told me is spot on. She told me several weeks ago the 61A750 would be on sale 3-19-08 with the 67A750 avail 3-23-08. Hopefully once avail we can find out more info on the units.
post #525 of 5058
Will some of you soon to be early adopters start an official owner's thread, or stay in this one--specifically the new LEDs?
post #526 of 5058
How long will Sammy continue to service these after they leave the business?
post #527 of 5058
FYI, Circuit City has the 750 on their website now:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...oductDetail.do

It's showing the refresh rate as 120hz but has some other inaccuracies so I'm not sure how valid that is.
post #528 of 5058
How long will Sammy continue to service these after they leave the business?

What make's you think that Samsung is leaving the RPTV LED DLP business? Do you know soemthing that we don't?

From what I've seen they're great sets with a great price and that's hard to beat. Unless you want (need) real a true flat panel to hang on a wall the extra cabinet depth is neither here nor there. I'd take the picture quality over that any day.
post #529 of 5058
When they say that they are going to revisit the category at the end of the year it is like a team owner saying " I have all the confidence in the world in my manager".
post #530 of 5058
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Originally Posted by NismoZ View Post

Anybody pulling the trigger right away? Or are we all waiting for Specs?

I have. I placed my order w/ Crutchfield last week after they cancelled my previous order for the 6189S. They gave me a very nice discount because of the cancellation, their free white glove delivery, no tax (I'm in NJ) and also gave me the Sammy matching stand free too. Delivery is expected 3/31.

On a side note. I stopped into BB last night and chatted up the Magnolia manager about the 61A750. They show 1 at their wharehouse for delivery next week. I asked about specs, specifically what TI chp and said that would be the deal breaker. He called their sammy sales rep (on speaker phone) and put the question to him. The sammy rep's answer was, TI DC4 for what it's worth.
post #531 of 5058
When they say that they are going to revisit the category at the end of the year it is like a team owner saying " I have all the confidence in the world in my manager".


I'm not sure that that follows. Do you have a reference for that quote by the way?

Any business will continually monitor and review progress (or lack of) in lines and that is only natural. So far, sales of LED DLP RPTV have bucked the trend and with the exit of Sony the field has been left wide open.

RPTV is likely to remain a good choice for all sorts of reasons for people with the space to accommodate one. OLED will probably sweep all before it but not for a few years. Samsung is well placed in that field too and maybe that's what's behind such sentiments.
post #532 of 5058
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Originally Posted by mikesan2 View Post

Why buy these if they are going to exit the business?


If you got an extended warranty for say 4 years I wouldn't worry about parts availability. After that time everyone will have the next great thing the 60" thin panel OLED.
post #533 of 5058
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Originally Posted by dbissett View Post

From the new 750 owner's manual....horizontal viewing angle is 140 degrees, and vertical is 60 degrees....is this any better than prior models?

Looking at the past manuals, there does not seem to be any differnce in viewing angles.
post #534 of 5058
The quote notation may be removed but it is a statement uttered many times over many years by team management before they end up firing the person.
post #535 of 5058
It looks like the dimensions of the HL67A750 is 60.8 x 41.5 x 16.6 inches according to the 750 series pdf.

Looking for tv stands...
post #536 of 5058
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Originally Posted by kaos333 View Post

It looks like the dimensions of the HL67A750 is 60.8 x 41.5 x 16.6 inches according to the 750 series pdf.

Looking for tv stands...

Isn't Samsung going to release one? I will be getting this TV within the next few weeks no doubt and want a Sammy like stand to get the width just perfect.

Let us know what stands you come upon to fit this beast.
post #537 of 5058
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Originally Posted by mikesan2 View Post

How long will Sammy continue to service these after they leave the business?

Since there is far less competition for RPTVs now, it's quite possible that Samsung will be in "the business" for some time. Not sure what your definition of business is here, but if it's RPTVs, they still have a huge price advantage over plasma or LCD flat-panel in larger sizes and many people including me prefer their image quality.

This may all change once Sony and Sharp's combined production facility for larger flat-panels comes online in 2010 or 2011 but we'll have to wait and see. RPTV won't stay stagnant during that time either.
post #538 of 5058
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Originally Posted by tr70quadruplex View Post

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RPTV is likely to remain a good choice for all sorts of reasons for people with the space to accommodate one. OLED will probably sweep all before it but not for a few years. Samsung is well placed in that field too and maybe that's what's behind such sentiments.

Very true quadruplex. I have 3 gamers at home and even though they say the newer plasmas don't have a burn in problem, I don't want to take the chance. As for PQ, I think DLP sets look great. I've been very happy with our Toshiba 46" set but want a larger screen so I've been keeping an eye on this thread.

FWIW, I went to BB last week and the Magnolia guy was pushing DLP to a customer which really surprised me and was giving him all of the advantages of DLP which I've learned about here. Hmmm, maybe he was an AVS member. Anyway, I asked him about the new Samsung sets and he said 3 weeks. Wonder whether Costco will sell these.
post #539 of 5058
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Originally Posted by mikesan2 View Post

Why buy these if they are going to exit the business?

Tons of people bought last years Sony A3000 even when they found out they were getting out of the RP market.

A good TV is a good TV.

If the 750 series is DC4 and they have fixed geometry issues, I think the 08s will do very well.

Ever price a 60+ Plasma/LCD? LCDs that I saw last year at that size were 8000+ and did not come CLOSE to offering the black levels and motion capabilities of a nice RP TV of today.

The Panasonic 65 inch was floating around 6000 after they REPEATEDLY kept dropping MSRP.

I own the HLT6187s and a panasonic 50 inch plasma for reference. The 61 will be upgraded to the 67 inch 750 when we get it into our store.
post #540 of 5058
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Originally Posted by ilkhan4 View Post

FYI, Circuit City has the 750 on their website now:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...oductDetail.do

It's showing the refresh rate as 120hz but has some other inaccuracies so I'm not sure how valid that is.


Its like the only specs we gets seem like mistakes. 2,500:1 contrast ratio on the samsung site and the CC site has 3:2 pulldown = no.

I mean cmon, some concrete news here and apparently its Samsung not releasing info. I have called them twice and talked to second level and they know (or say they know) nothing on the specs.
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