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post #661 of 5058
Well I am heading to CC right now, will let you know if I find out anything!
post #662 of 5058
I found this posted here

engadget .com

Full HD 1080p resolution and 10,000:1 contrast ratio
post #663 of 5058
can anyone confirm if these sets are 120 hertz capable and what is there black levels like?
post #664 of 5058
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Originally Posted by cartman222 View Post

I found this posted here

engadget .com

Full HD 1080p resolution and 10,000:1 contrast ratio



Can you set a link to this? I tried to find this info and failed. Thanks!
post #665 of 5058
Couldn't find anything either at engatget....went to my local CC and they pretty much knew nothing...they had one 50 inch lamp model in the warehouse, that was it...so again, no freakin' info!
post #666 of 5058
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Originally Posted by warpgee View Post

Can you set a link to this? I tried to find this info and failed. Thanks!

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/06...50a-hl56a650a/
post #667 of 5058
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Originally Posted by golferbradbest View Post

can anyone confirm if these sets are 120 hertz capable and what is there black levels like?

lt ers ere 120hz, so are this year 240hz arent coming til 2009. they need 120hz for 3d 60hz/60hz
post #668 of 5058
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Posted Jan 6th 2008. So, those specs prolly aren't correct.
post #669 of 5058
okay im now the owner of the hl61qa750. that cheap flimsy top bezel that was on the old bulb dlps is gone now. that was my main worry. i have no specs on it as i got it direct from the warehouse. works great if u ask me, the only thing im concerned about is that in the ps3 its playing via hdmi and it says that its only at 24hz. whats up with that?
post #670 of 5058
What are you doing when it says 24? Is it a movie maybe you are thinking of 1080p/24....
post #671 of 5058
just got off the phone with 2 samsung tech support people and they said that this particular tv only does 60hz and that 120hz only applies to LCD tvs because of some 8ms response time. so im sitting here looking at a grainy bluray movie on my ps3 and my tv has turned off on its own 3 times already during playback of 1 movie. anyone else?
post #672 of 5058
yeah when i tell it to play the bluray it says 1920 x 1080 24hz then the movie plays
post #673 of 5058
The 650 series (bulb model) states 120 hz. What does it say in your manual?
post #674 of 5058
Is this by chance the 61A650? http://www.samsung.com/mx/consumer/d...=SP61K7UHX/XAX

Habla Espanol, anyone?
post #675 of 5058
the manual states 60hz, this is the led version. it isnt turning off anymore. doesnt look great on standard directv. Chicken Little Bluray looks amazing. Regarding that bowing or whatever that i have been reading (all 22 pages of this thread i have read). i dont notice any at all. Maybe there are people that will notice something on the microscopic scale. I will note however that im using the cheap Dynex (best buy brand) hdmi cable that is not one of those 120hz hdmis that people are talking about. I do have one complaint, those samsung level 2 support people are idiots, it was immediately apparant that they have NO documentation for this product at all. He did not know of the importance of 120hz and could not tell me what contrast ratio this had. He was just trying to make me feel good about my purchase saying that i bought the best tv there is and that 120hz is only for LCD tvs that try to accomplish what DLP does. I love DLP but i just dont think thats true. If anyone else has any questions let me know. Oh yeah the remote has a cool light button that lights up the buttons in orange color.
post #676 of 5058
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Originally Posted by CyberBOMB View Post

yeah when i tell it to play the bluray it says 1920 x 1080 24hz then the movie plays

This is actually how you want Blu-Ray to play. If the DLP can do real 24p playback that is great. As long as when your gaming on your PS3 it does 60Hz

120Hz on an LCD just displays the 24FPS movie frames 5 times each (5:5 pulldown)

Previously with 60Hz LCD's it used to display each frame split into interlaced blocks in a 3:2 pulldown scheme. This means each half frame was displayed 2 or 3 times depending on where it fell adding judder.
post #677 of 5058
how can i help you guys? any way i can find out a listing of the contrast ratio, on whether it has Dark Chip 4 and what kind of pulldown it has? Id love to help out anyone who has any questions about this television.
post #678 of 5058
the box it comes in doesnt mention that is even an LED DLP, though it looks exactly like the pictures the other guy posted even the stickers on the front.
post #679 of 5058
How is it for noise and heat?

Thanks
post #680 of 5058
havent really checked it for heat. i havent noticed any noise. its wierd because it turned off 3 times randomly then went on and worked fine for hours afterwards.. noise wise, i built my own pc using a thermaltake case and when you turn up the fan speeds you can hear it, so im familiar with fan noise. i didnt notice anything significant
post #681 of 5058
You said that while watching a blueray disk that it was grainy. What movie did you happen to be watching? do you think that it is a flaw in the disk or tv? Do play games I would like to see some COD4 pics if you have a system, or just more good pics in general.. Overall what are your immpressions of the tv over last years models would you purchase one again are you happy with it?
post #682 of 5058
On samsung's site all A650 models have contrast 2500:1 and nothing about LED engine - possible 50/56/61A650
will be with cheap DMD chip+UHP bulb ?
http://www.samsung.com/us/system/con...6a650_spec.pdf

Only A750 series with DC4 and LED ?
post #683 of 5058
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Originally Posted by CyberBOMB View Post

how can i help you guys? any way i can find out a listing of the contrast ratio, on whether it has Dark Chip 4 and what kind of pulldown it has? Id love to help out anyone who has any questions about this television.


There may be others more qualified to navigate you but you are going to have to get into the service menu for this info.
post #684 of 5058
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Originally Posted by vsv View Post

On samsung's site all A650 models have contrast 2500:1 and nothing about LED engine - possible 50/56/61A650
will be with cheap DMD chip+UHP bulb ?
http://www.samsung.com/us/system/con...6a650_spec.pdf

Only A750 series with DC4 and LED ?

This cant be true, cant be. Why would the specs go down so much in a year? I also can no longer find a reference to the 120 hz display rate. What is going on here? Maybe there is a reason the specs are not listed. I know there was some discrepency over the 120 hz and whether the DLP's werer actually uses that, were they forced to update their specs to the True number?

Crap its true, From the specs pdf on the HL61A650:

3 HDMI inputs
- 480p/720i/720p/1080i/1080p
(60Hz/30Hz/24Hz) input support

I think they changed it, I remember reading 120 display rate.

SO I checked my hlt6176 where the scrren is bowed and the picture shakes and the display rate is:
DISPLAY PERFORMANCE
Video display rate: 120 Hz

So are last years set actually a better picture or has Samsung been forced to change the specs? Very disturbing...
post #685 of 5058
im about to give up and buy the mitz 73833. man, what has happened to the big tvs? how hard should it be in this day and age to have a good tv over 60 in. ive got plenty of depth to house one. i don't care if it is 4 ft deep! damn you sony!
post #686 of 5058
Did you guys find this yet?

Sorry, I can't post URLs yet: HL61A750A1F

samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?model_nm=HL61A750A1F&mType=UM&vType=L&disp_nm=HL61A750A1F

I see that someone had posted a link to the HL61A650 already.

I was on the verge of buying the HLT6189S from Crutchfield but then it disappeared from their website a few weeks ago and has had intermittent appearances since. Then I started reading that some 2008 models would be out in April and I decided to wait and watch this thread.

I currently have a 50" Sammy 720p DLP from 2003/2004 vintage. I'd like to step into the 1080p arena for $2k-$3k.
post #687 of 5058
Funny how this NEW ??? model line is already being discounted at CC.

Both 650 and 750 models....Hmmm

Sounds mighty fishy to me , no specs for a reason !!!

Seems like Sammy is trying to pull a fast one on everybody
post #688 of 5058
Whoah be it to anybody who's looking to purchase a good tv these days, eh?
post #689 of 5058
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Originally Posted by CC Quest View Post

Funny how this NEW ??? model line is already being discounted at CC.

Both 650 and 750 models....Hmmm

Sounds mighty fishy to me , no specs for a reason !!!

Seems like Sammy is trying to pull a fast one on everybody

Howdy, I found that odd as well. The "2008 model" costs the same or less than the previous 1-2 model years AND you can use the 10% off coupon?!?! What's that about?

I emailed Crutchfield to see if they have any info on the 2008 stuff yet. I'm all for getting new/better stuff at the same price or less... but that rarely happens. I was at CC in Bolingbrook, IL, yesterday and they still had 76S and 87S model 61" Sammy DLPs on the floor. The 61" 87S was the "centerpiece" offering with the couch setup, etc. I asked the guy working the HT floor about the 89S model or newer and he said Easter is usually the "big truck weekend" when the warehouses start to get stocked with new stuff. He said to check the store in 1-2 weeks for newer DLPs.

I have a feeling I'm going to end up watching the entire NCAA's on the older 720P 50" DLP.
post #690 of 5058
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Originally Posted by mistergadgett View Post

Did you guys find this yet?

Sorry, I can't post URLs yet: HL61A750A1F

samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?model_nm=HL61A750A1F&mType=UM&vType=L&disp_nm=HL61A750A1F

I see that someone had posted a link to the HL61A650 already.

I was on the verge of buying the HLT6189S from Crutchfield but then it disappeared from their website a few weeks ago and has had intermittent appearances since. Then I started reading that some 2008 models would be out in April and I decided to wait and watch this thread.

I currently have a 50" Sammy 720p DLP from 2003/2004 vintage. I'd like to step into the 1080p arena for $2k-$3k.

Allow me:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...20=HL61A750A1F
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