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post #1 of 2570
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Current HD Channels
* = not a simulcast of the SD channel (if available), programming will vary.

2008 Available HD Channels
  1. A&E HD (9419)
  2. Animal Planet HD (9489)
  3. Big 10 Network HD (9500)
  4. Cinemax HD (9458)
  5. Discovery HD (9487)
  6. ESPN HD (9424) - MPEG2
  7. ESPN2HD (9425)
  8. Food Network HD* (9462)
  9. HBO HD (9456) - MPEG2
  10. HD Theater (9421) - MPEG2
  11. HDNet (9422) - MPEG2
  12. HDNet Movies (9423) - MPEG2
  13. HGTV HD* (9461)
  14. History Channel HD (9491)
  15. MHD (9469)
  16. National Geographic HD (9429)
  17. NBA TV HD (402)
  18. NFL Network HD (9426)
  19. NHL Network HD (403)
  20. Science Channel HD (9490)
  21. Showtime HD (9460) - MPEG2
  22. Starz HD (9435)
  23. TBS HD (9499)
  24. TLC HD (9488)
  25. TNT HD (9420) - MPEG2
  26. Universal HD (9427)
  27. Versus/Golf Channel HD (9468)

Regional Sports Networks
Available nationally, but local blackout rules still apply.
  1. SportsNet New York (388)

Part time RSNs and other specialty sports feeds
  1. Altitude (360)
  2. Comcast SportsNet Chicago (379)
  3. Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic (374)
  4. Comcast West (359)
  5. FSN Arizona (365)
  6. FSN Cincinnati (377)
  7. FSN Detroit (380)
  8. FSN Florida (373)
  9. FSN North (386)
  10. FSN Northwest (376)
  11. FSN Ohio (375)
  12. FSN Pittsburgh (378)
  13. FSN Prime Ticket (361)
  14. FSN Rocky Mountain (364)
  15. FSN South (370)
  16. FSN Southwest (366)
  17. FSN West (367)
  18. SportSouth (387)
  19. SportsTime Ohio (381)
  20. Sunshine Sports (372)

Other HD channels
  1. HD Events (9465) - MPEG2
  2. HD PPV (9467) - MPEG2
  3. HD PPV (531)
  4. HD PPV (534)
  5. HD PPV (535)
  6. HD PPV (536)
  7. HD PPV (537)
  8. HD PPV (539)
  9. HD PPV (540)

Announced HD Additions
Channels announced to be added by 8/1/08
  1. ActionMax HD (313)
  2. CBS College Sports HD (152)
  3. Lifetime HD (108)
  4. Lifetime Movie Network HD (109)
  5. Planet Green HD (194)
  6. Encore HD (340)
  7. HBO 2 HD (301)
  8. HBO Comedy HD (307)
  9. HBO Family HD (305)
  10. HBO Latino HD (309)
  11. HBO Signature HD (302)
  12. HBO West HD (303)
  13. HBO Zone HD (308)
  14. Starz Comedy HD (354)
  15. Starz Edge HD (352)
  16. Starz Kids & Family HD (356)
  17. Starz West HD (351)

Channels that are uplinked, but not yet available
  1. USA HD (9431)
  2. SciFi HD (9432)

Regional Sports Networks
Available nationally, but local blackout rules still apply.


Channels that are uplinked, but not yet available
  1. FSN Bay Area (369)
  2. FSN New York (363)
  3. MSG (362)

Current HD Channels by Dish Network Channel Number
  • 359 - Comcast West
  • 360 - Altitude
  • 361 - FSN Prime Ticket
  • 364 - FSN Rocky Mountain
  • 365 - FSN Arizona
  • 366 - FSN Southwest
  • 367 - FSN West
  • 370 - FSN South
  • 372 - Sunshine Sports
  • 373 - FSN Florida
  • 374 - Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic
  • 375 - FSN Ohio
  • 376 - FSN Northwest
  • 377 - FSN Cincinnati
  • 378 - FSN Pittsburgh
  • 379 - Comcast SportsNet Chicago
  • 380 - FSN Detroit
  • 381 - SportsTime Ohio
  • 386 - FSN North
  • 387 - SportSouth
  • 388 - SportsNet New York
  • 402 - NBA TV HD
  • 403 - NHL Network HD
  • 9419 - A&E HD
  • 9420 - TNT HD - MPEG2
  • 9421 - HD Theater - MPEG2
  • 9422 - HDNet - MPEG2
  • 9423 - HDNet Movies - MPEG2
  • 9424 - ESPN HD - MPEG2
  • 9425 - ESPN2HD
  • 9426 - NFL Network HD
  • 9427 - Universal HD
  • 9429 - National Geographic HD
  • 9435 - Starz HD
  • 9456 - HBO HD - MPEG2
  • 9458 - Cinemax HD
  • 9460 - Showtime HD - MPEG2
  • 9461 - HGTV HD
  • 9462 - Food Network HD
  • 9465 - HD Events - MPEG2
  • 9467 - HD PPV - MPEG2
  • 9468 - Versus/Golf Channel HD
  • 9469 - MHD
  • 9487 - Discovery HD
  • 9488 - TLC HD
  • 9489 - Animal Planet HD
  • 9490 - Science Channel HD
  • 9491 - History Channel HD
  • 9499 - TBS HD
  • 9500 - Big 10 Network HD
post #2 of 2570
CES: DISH Network to Offer 100 HD Channels

The satcaster says it's also expanding local high-def service.
By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (January 7, 2008) -- DISH Network today said it will increase its national HDTV channel count from 76 to 100 in 2008.

The satcaster will formally announce the expansion today at a press conference at the Consumer Electronics Show.

DISH also said it plans to add local HD channels in 65 new markets this year, bringing its HD local market total to 100.

The company's decision to offer more high-def programming is an effort to keep pace with satellite rival DIRECTV, which now offers nearly 90 HD channels.

DIRECTV has said it will expand to nearly 150 HD channels in 2008; Verizon's FiOS telco TV service has made the same claim.

`The addition of new HD national and local channels is a testament to DISH Network's unwavering focus on providing the best HD offerings,'' said Eric Sahl, senior vice president of programming for DISH Network. ``We at DISH Network will continue to not only be a leader in the number of HD channels, but also in quality in value.''

DISH Network said it would launch three new satellites in 2008 to expand its capacity for high-def.

The company also announced that it was now adding local HD in 11 new markets: Austin, TX; Baltimore; Cleveland; Columbia, S.C.; Flint, Mich.; Greenville, S.C.; Huntsville, Ala.; Jackson, Miss.; Knoxville, Tenn.; Orlando, Fla.; and Richmond, Va.

In its statement, DISH did not reveal which new HD channels it will add this year.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/dish010708.htm
post #3 of 2570
DISH Network to Expand HD Line-Up in 2008

Monday January 7, 8:00 am ET

100 National HD Channels, 100 HD Local Markets

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Jan. 7, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- DISH Network(r) (NasdaqGSISH - News) today announced plans to increase its national HD channel count from 76 to 100 in 2008. The company also plans to add local HD channels in 65 new markets, bringing its HD local market total to 100.

``The addition of new HD national and local channels is a testament to DISH Network's unwavering focus on providing the best HD offerings,'' said Eric Sahl, senior vice president of Programming for DISH Network. ``We at DISH Network will continue to not only be a leader in the number of HD channels, but also in quality in value.''

DISH Network plans to launch three satellites in 2008, providing the company additional bandwidth to maintain its reign as a top HD provider.

The company begins its HD launches with 11 local markets including: Austin, TX; Baltimore; Cleveland; Columbia, S.C.; Flint, Mich.; Greenville, S.C.; Huntsville, Ala.; Jackson, Miss.; Knoxville, Tenn.; Orlando, Fla.; and Richmond, Va. The addition of these markets brings DISH Network's local HD penetration to 80 percent of U.S. TV households.

In conjunction with the launch of new HD programming, DISH Network is offering more choices for HD customers, including HD packages as low as $10 per month for more than 20 of the most popular HD channels. New HD packages will be available beginning Feb. 1, 2008.

``DISH Network's HD programming packages, paired with the industry's best HD DVRs, give TV consumers the complete TV viewing experience and another powerful reason to switch to DISH Network -- if they haven't already,'' Sahl said.

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080107/133867.html
post #4 of 2570
ha, awesome.
Reminds me of D*'s claim last year (?) "100 HD channels by the end of 2007"
Good news.
post #5 of 2570
ha, its not nearly as absurd as their claim that they currently carry 76 HD channels. Dish has a healthy line up of a about 40+ HD channels.

They then have a bunch of HD channels with are always "off the air" except for brief 3hr intervals where a channel may come online to show a single PPV movie, NBA game, NHL Game, or HD Alt in a time sharing basis. Counting them as unique channels is right up there with Comcast equivicating their HD On demand shows as a "HD Choice" which they kinda count as a HD channel.
post #6 of 2570
"Plans to launch satellites" is the big catch here. And given the completely screwed up positioning of the current birds, it remains to be seen whether one will need a new dish or even a second dish to receive everything.
post #7 of 2570
Any idea if Fox's FX is in these plans? I'm really tired of watching Nip/Tuck, The Shield, and Rescue Me in SD. I remember seeing something last year that FX was indeed going to go HD in the future, but there was no timetable given.
post #8 of 2570
Here we go again...
post #9 of 2570
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

"Plans to launch satellites" is the big catch here. And given the completely screwed up positioning of the current birds, it remains to be seen whether one will need a new dish or even a second dish to receive everything.

I thought the first launch was a replacement for one location
post #10 of 2570
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

"Plans to launch satellites" is the big catch here. And given the completely screwed up positioning of the current birds, it remains to be seen whether one will need a new dish or even a second dish to receive everything.

Plans to dramatically increase programming offerings always require "plans to launch satellites". D* had to do the same thing - and D* subs needed a new dish and receivers in order to receive the new channels.

If there were a magic way to offer a boatload of new HD channels with no inconvenience or additional investment by E* - they'd fire up the channels today.
post #11 of 2570
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

I thought the first launch was a replacement for one location

That would be ideal. I believe I read that at least one of the 110/119 birds is limited to MPEG2, maybe both.
post #12 of 2570
Well...once again...

"I'll believe it when I see it"...

And lets just say that 20 channels of 'Logo', and SD up-converts being passed off as legitimate HD channels have done little to dampen my skepticism, I have to say...in fact its probably worse...

Doesn't anyone know WHY we have to look at 20 channels of that ridiculous logo all the time? Its really getting to be a bore...
post #13 of 2570
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Originally Posted by uhphikap View Post

I remember seeing something last year that FX was indeed going to go HD in the future, but there was no timetable given.

FX is up in HD on D*.
post #14 of 2570
They're just blowing smoke................
post #15 of 2570
Where did these guys learn math?
post #16 of 2570
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Originally Posted by keeper View Post

Where did these guys learn math?

Probably the same place they learned ethical business practices...
post #17 of 2570
With the possible exception of naming 11 specific DMAS for HD locals (no time frame though), there is absolutely nothing new in that 'news' that I see.
post #18 of 2570
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Originally Posted by CycloneGT View Post

ha, its not nearly as absurd as their claim that they currently carry 76 HD channels. Dish has a healthy line up of a about 40+ HD channels.

They then have a bunch of HD channels with are always "off the air" except for brief 3hr intervals where a channel may come online to show a single PPV movie, NBA game, NHL Game, or HD Alt in a time sharing basis. Counting them as unique channels is right up there with Comcast equivicating their HD On demand shows as a "HD Choice" which they kinda count as a HD channel.

EXACTLY, Dish can suck an egg for saying they have 76 B.S. HD Channels.
post #19 of 2570
Also with all those NHL HD and NBA HD channels, they also share the same Transponder with 3 HD-ALT HD channels and all the Bigten 10 Network HD channels. All on Transponder 30 at 61.5 degrees. I do not know which TP at 129 they use. Which means that up to only 6 games can be shown. I have only seen as many as 5 games at once. 3 NHL, 1 NBA and 1 Big 10 Alternate game going at the same time.
post #20 of 2570
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Originally Posted by ehren View Post

Also with all those NHL HD and NBA HD channels, they also share the same Transponder with 3 HD-ALT HD channels and all the Bigten 10 Network HD channels. All on Transponder 30 at 61.5 degrees. I do not know which TP at 129 they use. Which means that up to only 6 games can be shown. I have only seen as many as 5 games at once. 3 NHL, 1 NBA and 1 Big 10 Alternate game going at the same time.

Check out www.dishchannelchart.com

between the HD RSNs, Alt HD RSNs, Big Ten Alt HDs, etc, 8 HD sports channels at 129° and another 5 HD Sports channels at 61.5° with the (13) footnote can be active at any one time. None of these channels are available as 24 hour channels from the source. They are intended ONLY as occasional game feeds.
post #21 of 2570
To actually broadcast 100 nationwide HD channels simultaneously 24/7/365 would require all content to be in Mpeg4.
Only a fraction of Dishnet's customers have IRD's that decode Mpeg4 currently. So, even IF they can somehow manage to transmit 100 HD channels fulltime... only a minority of their customers would be able to watch those HD channels. I know five families who subscribe to Dishnet (including myself) and none of us have mpeg4 capable IRD's yet.
post #22 of 2570
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

To actually broadcast 100 nationwide HD channels simultaneously 24/7/365 would require all content to be in Mpeg4.
Only a fraction of Dishnet's customers have IRD's that decode Mpeg4 currently. So, even IF they can somehow manage to transmit 100 HD channels fulltime... only a minority of their customers would be able to watch those HD channels. I know five families who subscribe to Dishnet (including myself) and none of us have mpeg4 capable IRD's yet.

time for you to upgrade. MPEG 4 channels actually are decent even tho they are only 1440x1080
post #23 of 2570
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

Check out www.dishchannelchart.com

between the HD RSNs, Alt HD RSNs, Big Ten Alt HDs, etc, 8 HD sports channels at 129° and another 5 HD Sports channels at 61.5° with the (13) footnote can be active at any one time. None of these channels are available as 24 hour channels from the source. They are intended ONLY as occasional game feeds.

bingo, you filled in my blanks.
post #24 of 2570
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Originally Posted by jefbal99 View Post

I thought the first launch was a replacement for one location

New birds would be better than the old birds they're replacing, I assume... The new birds would support mpeg4 and be able to offer more channels per satellite, so it would still be an improvement.
post #25 of 2570
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Originally Posted by jjeffeory View Post

New birds would be better than the old birds they're replacing, I assume... The new birds would support mpeg4 and be able to offer more channels per satellite, so it would still be an improvement.

Any satellite new or old can handle Mpeg4. Mpeg2 and mpeg4 are just data packets that can be uplinked and downlinked, via any satellite.

But a new bird will have no dead transponders and prolly better transponders, much more reliable.
post #26 of 2570
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

FX is up in HD on D*.

I have both D*** and E*** for the time being. FX in HD looks great, and has the great original series. DISH needs to get its act together and add this channel ASAP.
post #27 of 2570
It appears that E* will soon have an all HD package (no SD channels) for $30/month.

Also, they will soon be offering a package with all 4 premium HD channels (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, and Starz) only (no SD premiums) for $10/month.
post #28 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

It appears that E* will soon have an all HD package (no SD channels) for $30/month.

Also, they will soon be offering a package with all 4 premium HD channels (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, and Starz) only (no SD premiums) for $10/month.

I've been reading this over on the other site... This is the best news since Charlie killed the old standalone HD pack. My bill would actually go down, while the HD channel count would go up! That's a switch.
post #29 of 2570
That would be awesome if that happened but I just don't see it coming true. They would lose too much $ and it makes too much sense for them to even consider it though.
post #30 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

It appears that E* will soon have an all HD package (no SD channels) for $30/month.

Also, they will soon be offering a package with all 4 premium HD channels (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, and Starz) only (no SD premiums) for $10/month.

where is the proof!
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