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is there a reason only the 922 is the only receiver that can show 3d. i hate for dish to make me buy a new receiver to enjoy 3d. with comcast and fios they add 3d channe and the signal is sent to the box you already have.

The 722 is supposed to be able to show 3D but the software isn't there yet.

ok so its just software so i guess the 922 and 722 has a faster processor and more memory. if thats the case why not give new customers the 922 without asking and make them pay extra for slingbox features?

Anyone in south bend area with a 722 have problems with freezing during the ND Michigan game?

Sorry for the simple question, but I could not find an answer when searching...

I have DirecTV now and I am looking at switching to Dish to save money. It would be the America's Top 200 package (which I assume includes local channels), with a ViP 722K HD receiver, with free HD channels, in zip 27513. I found a site, http://www.dishpointer.com/, that tells me which way I will point, but you need to know which satellite(s), for example ECHOSTAR 14 | ECHOSTAR 7, in order to get the compass angle.

Can someone please tell me which satellite(s) will be in that package?

Thanks.

Assuming you want the eastern arc then:

61.5W, 72.7W and 77.0W .

Edit: actually on dishpointer just scroll down to Dish 1000.4 near the bottom.

Ok, my neighbor's house is in the way, so no Dish Network for me. Thanks!

You do know that for many, you can go with either eastern or wester arc sats?

If you're also going with locals, be sure that the arc you're selecting includes those. In my market, one of them doesn't.

Then there is also antenna.

Assuming you really live in NC (I'm using Greensboro as the location since its near the middle), then the elevation for Dish eastern arc is 47.5 degrees. So unless your neighbors hour is towering above you, then it should be fine. Western arc is still at an elevation of 31 degrees which should be workable.

Well, there are a lot of factors.

In my case, if I were 100 yards down my street, I couldn't get satellite service. Where I am, I have open sky. Down the street, the dish would be pointing at the house across the street which is a 3 story turn of the century monster and sits 15 feet higher. I live on a steep hill and the street runs around the perimeter of it like a belt. If you tried hopping my back fence to leave the property, you'd get a heck of surprise (for a couple seconds, anyway) when you fall to your death. Then you'd get run over by the next train that runs by way down there.

100 yards the other direction, and I wouldn't need the dish on the roof to shoot over the trees since the back porch would provide perfect line of site. While I currently get to see a perfect sunset from my back porch every night, the corner of the house blocks a bird or two when the dish is mounted on it.

BTW: that same hill prevents me from getting good signal on most of the stations - they're on the other side of it, one hill over.

Thanks all. My neighbor's 2-story house is pretty close:



I'll get out there tomorrow and see if I would clear it, but I doubt it.

I have a poll set in concrete, that is about 4 ft high, that I have the current DirecTV dish on, and I am reluctant to not use the same poll for Dish Network, so I might be limiting myself. I don't want a dish of any type anywhere else on my property.

I have the TurboHD bronze pkg, an old Dish500 dish (110+119), a 2nd dish pointed at 61.5, and a ViP622 receiver.

Some strange things have started to happen and I'm wondering if I need to change something with my setup...

1) A few months ago, the SD/HD "aliasing" in the EPG broke. By that I mean that I used to see HD channels listed in the EPG with their 3-digit SD channel number with "HD" next to it. For the last several months, I can only find the HD channels in the 4-digital channel range.

2) I just now noticed that Comedy Central HD has disappeared entirely from my EPG. Even if I make sure to use the "All Channels" theme in the EPG, and I manually tune to 4088, it's just not there.

What's going on? Is some of the HD content being taken off 61.5? Do I need to re-point my dishes?

Dish is and has been moving HD channels off of 61.5 over to 72. You need to call them and they will install a new antenna that looks at 61.5, 72, and 77. They will do this free of charge.

So I called DISH, and in my opening statement to the tech said something to the effect "I'm pretty sure I need to get switched to the Eastern Arc antenna". Well, 40 minutes and 2 CSRs later, and all manner of resets and reboots, they finally concurred and scheduled an install.

i currently have vip222k receiver. Yesterday i called dish and ordered for the sling adapter (to view my prog's on pc/phone) and i was told that my current receiver is not compatible for that they are sending a new one for 100$.
I believe based on what i have, i believe I'm getting vip722k? Is 722k is better than 222k picture quality wise? I know i will have DVR future, is there any difference i will see performance wise?

It will look the same. The 722K is a great DVR!

I dont know if anyone can help me out here or not but Im contemplating switching to Dish from TWC mainly because I cant keep my DVRs working on TWC with all the cable card and tuning adapter BS.

How are the Dish DVRs? Im going to need the two room units so maybe the 922s or 722k. Will they do any kind of local media streaming?

Im going to need a set top box of some sort as well since I doubt they have built in Netflix and Hulu like my Tivo did.

Not really a move Im wanting to make and Ive never had dish before but the out of pocket expense for DTV is too high.

The 922 has DLNA and can stream just about anything, including Netflix and Hulu, given a media server like PlayOn. However, it's not nearly as good as a roku or blu-ray player. Plus a 922 is $4/month more than a 722k which lacks DLNA. I think you'll find both far superior to anything you've used with cable. But realize that the second room output on both is SD only. If you need HD in your second rooms, you'll have to run more cables or wait a few more months for the XIP813.

HD in multiple rooms isnt a deal breaker for me. Im seriously at the end of my rope with Time Warner to the point that Im willing to throw away 2 perfectly good DVRs to get away from them. I have a Tivo Premiere and a Moxi and Im so frustrated with both, Ive got to do something different.

Sounds like a pair of 722s with a separate streaming device is what Im going to end up needing.

I'd stay away from the 922 for DLNA. There are too many reports of bugginess with that receiver on satellite guys. Personally, I'd stick with the 722k and go with something else (e.g. a $89/99 Google TV unit) for DLNA.



I thought that was only for HBO Comedy. Moreover, you still get 480p with component.

My advice to you is to look into obtaining a HDFury.

Be aware that Dish is employing hdcp on the HBO/Max channels. Make sure your tv's are hdcp compliant. I have 3 hd receivers and one is connected via dvi and isnt compliant. I have lost the ability to watch Hd channels on all HBO/Max channels now on that TV!

Of course you can use component cables and circumvent all that

And of course you DO understand that HDCP will NOT allow viewing HD signals on component outputs, either...

Since at a minimum HD signals WILL be downconverted to 480p on HDCP channels - & at the worst not allow ANY viewing of these said channels, doesn't that basically negate even bothering with these connections...

According to this, it's going to be the later:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-net...bo-comedy.html

Actually, it's not HDCP that does this as your TV already needs to be HDCP compliant for HDMI to work. What they have done is enable the ICT (image constraint token) for these channels.

And I have tested all of this on my 10 year old Mits 65908 that is component only for HD. All of the HD channels are outputting 1080i on my 722...

OK, fine - but it still doesn't change the fact that these channels will NO longer be able to be viewed in HD over component connections.


(I assume you DO actually have HBO & have tried this specific channel???)

But since you are telling us this, obviously you are NOT using native output on your 722. (& have your receiver locked on 1080i output, no?) I guess I should ask - do DISH receivers even offer native output? (I tried searching & found posts that say no - so I guess that's going to be a problem here; I just assumed they did like all the DirecTV HD receivers do )

If possible, maybe you should switch your 722 to native, THEN try HBO comedy HD & then tell us what your TV says it's getting. If there is no native output, then I'm not convinced you are actually getting "true" 1080i out of HBO Comedy now...

I have received my VIP 722k from dish yesterday and hookied up to a sling everything is okie (except iphone app!, junk).
Is there any way i can transfer data from the DVR to my PC? I can write to a dvd later?

Please advise, how you guys doing that?

Dish boxes do not have native output. So that is a good point, many people may not even notice.

It is the latter as I am unable to receive any HBO/MAX channels on one of my non-compliant tv's. What is weird is that I am able to view the HBO/Max channels via component on my 622 when my hdmi is connected on my 622's. On my 222 no component or rca connections only DVI/VGA on an older projector. It was my understanding that without a secure connection the signals would have been downconverted but Dish is not allowing any viewing of said channels unles via rca connections which My projector does not have.
According to Dish, this is a requirement that HBO is stipulating to receive their programming. I hope that it is dish's error in not allowing downconversion of signals rather than not allowing access.

I would advise you to Google PVRExplorer. However, it doesn't work on HD content. Unless you're Linux savvy, my best advice to you would be to get a Hauppauge or another component capture device.