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post #2161 of 2570
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Originally Posted by RDK006 View Post

This reminds me of that SNL skit the other night about "White People's Problems." lol

LOL. I wish that would be the biggest problem for me right now.

My wife and I did find that sketch to be quite humourous.

Mr Zoid
post #2162 of 2570
Although I'm happy with DirecTV, I'm thinking about switching from DirecTV to Dish because it is cheaper to become a new Dish customer than a continuing DirecTV customer. Has anyone regretted from switching from DirecTV to Dish? If so, what happened?

I've also seen posts about problems with Dish's DVRs, particularly the 612. Have the problems been cured? I know that there are also posts about DirecTV's DVRs, but mine have been fine.

Thanks for the help.
post #2163 of 2570
I went from direct tv standard def to dish network high def because dish was cheaper.
What a difference.
My direct tv screen was so laggy that switching channels was a chore and my 612 is way better and I've had it 2 years maybe 3. It has frozen a few rimes but other then that it has ran perfect for me.
Very noisy fan though, but if that noisy fan means it is getting adaquetly cooled then im ok with that.
post #2164 of 2570
I switched from DirecTV to Dish a while back and absolutely love having the 20 something basic HD channels DirecTV was missing (and still is). Cost is also lower and new MRV system will be great. No regrets, and wish I had switched sooner. Of course Dish doesn't have anywhere near the sports content DirecTV does, so it all depends on the content you want. If you do switch, wait a few weeks until the new Hopper system is available.

Good luck
post #2165 of 2570
I just did an online chat with Dish. I have two TVs, and I want two DVRs - a 722 and a 612. I was told that you have to connect two TVs to the 722. I questioned this, and the Dish rep insisted that you can't connect just one TV to the 722. Is this correct?
post #2166 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Cawdor View Post

I just did an online chat with Dish. I have two TVs, and I want two DVRs - a 722 and a 612. I was told that you have to connect two TVs to the 722. I questioned this, and the Dish rep insisted that you can't connect just one TV to the 722. Is this correct?

They are wrong. They would probably rather lease you another 612 than a 722 since you are only using it for one TV.
post #2167 of 2570
I've had 1 TV connected to my 722 for 4 years........
post #2168 of 2570
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

I've had 1 TV connected to my 722 for 4 years........

I've had 4 TVs connected to my 722 for 1 year, no kidding....

To the OP, you'll save a lot of money if you consider waiting a little while for the Hopper. It blows anything else Dish has ever had completely out of the water. Even though it only has 3 tuners instead of the 4 you want, it has a very neat trick up it's sleeve. It can record an entire transponder (the 4 major networks simultaneously) on a single tuner and does so automatically during primetime every day. That lessens the need for a lot of extra tuners for most people.

HERE's a demo. (Thanks Scott G!)
post #2169 of 2570
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Originally Posted by Cawdor View Post

I just did an online chat with Dish. I have two TVs, and I want two DVRs - a 722 and a 612. I was told that you have to connect two TVs to the 722. I questioned this, and the Dish rep insisted that you can't connect just one TV to the 722. Is this correct?

I guess you missed my post on the previous page.

They have their reps trained to think DVR = tuner, instead of DVR = box with X number of tuners.

You have to stress to them that you have two HDTVs, and you want to be able to record and watch HD programming on both TVs. Only then will they begin to get it.

Once I did this I found out I would be saving minimally over DirecTV for less programming (although I would be getting E! and BBCA).

Mr Zoid
post #2170 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I've had 4 TVs connected to my 722 for 1 year, no kidding....

To the OP, you'll save a lot of money if you consider waiting a little while for the Hopper. It blows anything else Dish has ever had completely out of the water. Even though it only has 3 tuners instead of the 4 you want, it has a very neat trick up it's sleeve. It can record an entire transponder (the 4 major networks simultaneously) on a single tuner and does so automatically during primetime every day. That lessens the need for a lot of extra tuners for most people.

HERE's a demo. (Thanks Scott G!)

Cool beans.

I've complained for a while that the major networks load up certain evening such that you can't record everything with a single DVR. This pretty much takes care of that.

Wonder if it'll allow you to add an even larger hard drive and extend the automatic prime time recordings beyond 8 days.
post #2171 of 2570
FWIW - I have 2 HDTV's connected to a single 622. One via HDMI, the other via Component Video + TOSLINK, with the receiver set to "single" mode. Granted, you can't watch 2 different things on the 2 TVs, but that's not an issue for me. If you want to watch 2 different programs in HD on 2 different HDTVs, you need 2 DVRs (that is, unless you wait for the Hopper).
post #2172 of 2570
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

...Wonder if it'll allow you to add an even larger hard drive and extend the automatic prime time recordings beyond 8 days.

You can permanently save any that you want at any time.
post #2173 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

You can permanently save any that you want at any time.

and you can add an external hard drive, up to 2TB, and move anything you want to keep to it. You can add as many EHDs as you like, but you can only use one at a time.
post #2174 of 2570
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

When you change out the the HD you will be breaking seals that will cost you a ton of cash later when you turn the new one in. You will pay full price for the DVR. You can get an external hard drive and transfer all of your existing recordings over to it and then bring them back in on the new DVR. There is no charge to add the EHD except the price of the EHD. The EHD must be self powered, not USB powered. All you do is plug the EHD into the USB connection on the front or back of the DVR and it will ask to format. You say yes and it will set up just fine.

Are you certain about the ability to use an EHD between receivers? I was under the impression that the EHD & receiver are 'married' and if you try to view the programming on the EHD on another receiver, it corrupts it, so it won't work on anything then...
post #2175 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mrdjman View Post

Are you certain about the ability to use an EHD between receivers? I was under the impression that the EHD & receiver are 'married' and if you try to view the programming on the EHD on another receiver, it corrupts it, so it won't work on anything then...

The EHD is married to the account, not the receiver. You can share the EHD among any 622/722 on the account...
post #2176 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mrdjman View Post

Are you certain about the ability to use an EHD between receivers? I was under the impression that the EHD & receiver are 'married' and if you try to view the programming on the EHD on another receiver, it corrupts it, so it won't work on anything then...

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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

The EHD is married to the account, not the receiver. You can share the EHD among any 622/722 on the account...

+1
mrdjman, you must be thinking of DirecTV. Dish doesn't work that way. No problems moving your drive around, with one exception, the 211k. It needs a dedicated drive.
post #2177 of 2570
Hmm...I thought sure it was Dish...oh well...so much the better. I wonder, though, if we will be able then to use the EHD with the newly announced receiver - that'd be peachy.... I have the 722 now (which I'm happy with...but wouldn't mind having the new toy).
post #2178 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mrdjman View Post

Hmm...I thought sure it was Dish...oh well...so much the better. I wonder, though, if we will be able then to use the EHD with the newly announced receiver - that'd be peachy.... I have the 722 now (which I'm happy with...but wouldn't mind having the new toy).

Absolutely! Including moving any existing EHDs you might have over to the Hopper....
post #2179 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mrdjman View Post

Hmm...I thought sure it was Dish...oh well...so much the better. I wonder, though, if we will be able then to use the EHD with the newly announced receiver - that'd be peachy.... I have the 722 now (which I'm happy with...but wouldn't mind having the new toy).

Yes, drive from vip series will work with hopper
post #2180 of 2570
I found out the painful way that ViP622 EHD files may NOT be recognized by a ViP722.

Recently, my 622 died - Dish sent me a new 722 as a replacement. I was saving my 622 'goodie' files on a 500 Gb WD 'My DVR Expander", which supposedly was tailor-made for Dish recordings. Later, I tried to access a file and the 722 claimed 'no external disk found'.

Despite a Dish blurb printed in '07 states that EHD files are compatible between 622 and 722, Dish tech folks acknowledged that was not exactly the case - that they were working on a s/w fix which will be available sometime. Since they said these DVRs were compatible in terms of EHDs - how long does a s/w fix take? It's been about 5 years since they stated they were Okey-dokey with EHDs! I'm not too happy since it looks like I've lost about 80 'goodies' including some PPVs.

Dish offered to send me a 622 to see if I could recover my EHD files, but they wanted the 722 back and charge me 'only' $200 for the use of the 622. I escalated this BS up but, the management wouldn't budge on their 'offer'.
post #2181 of 2570
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Originally Posted by journeydog View Post

I found out the painful way that ViP622 EHD files may NOT be recognized by a ViP722.

Recently, my 622 died - Dish sent me a new 722 as a replacement. I was saving my 622 'goodie' files on a 500 Gb WD 'My DVR Expander", which supposedly was tailor-made for Dish recordings. Later, I tried to access a file and the 722 claimed 'no external disk found'.

Despite a Dish blurb printed in '07 states that EHD files are compatible between 622 and 722, Dish tech folks acknowledged that was not exactly the case - that they were working on a s/w fix which will be available sometime. Since they said these DVRs were compatible in terms of EHDs - how long does a s/w fix take? It's been about 5 years since they stated they were Okey-dokey with EHDs! I'm not too happy since it looks like I've lost about 80 'goodies' including some PPVs.

Dish offered to send me a 622 to see if I could recover my EHD files, but they wanted the 722 back and charge me 'only' $200 for the use of the 622. I escalated this BS up but, the management wouldn't budge on their 'offer'.

Another uninformed tech support person. I swap mine between 622 and 722 weekly no issues in 2-3 years. My guess is bad port or something on the 722.

There are compatibility issues with other receivers but not the 622/722
post #2182 of 2570
Sometimes there are glitches, so you might need to reboot the receiver or disconnect and reconnect the hard drive, but otherwise no problems that I am aware of... The only other difficult is if they disable the old receiver before adding the new one... Sometimes that has caused problems I think.
post #2183 of 2570
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

Sometimes there are glitches, so you might need to reboot the receiver or disconnect and reconnect the hard drive, but otherwise no problems that I am aware of... The only other difficult is if they disable the old receiver before adding the new one... Sometimes that has caused problems I think.

Did all that stuff...many times over. Even thought about throwing red chicken feathers over my left shoulder and turn counter clockwise 17 times...but no luck...still dead. Maybe bad HD...also have a 250 Gb WD "My Book" on line and it seems to be working - even able to recover the files that the 622 wrote long ago. Possible formatting problem with the full WD "My DVR Expander"500G HD.

To re-state: Dish tech folks said they are aware of a s/w compatibility problem between some 622 EHD formated transfers and the lack of being able to correctly transfer any of the 622-formatted files to a 722 for playback...said "They are working the problem and will have a s/w fix soon." If that tech doesn't have a clue...who am I supposed to believe?
post #2184 of 2570
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Originally Posted by journeydog View Post

Did all that stuff...many times over. Even thought about throwing red chicken feathers over my left shoulder and turn counter clockwise 17 times...but no luck...still dead. Maybe bad HD...also have a 250 Gb WD "My Book" on line and it seems to be working - even able to recover the files that the 622 wrote long ago. Possible formatting problem with the full WD "My DVR Expander"500G HD.

To re-state: Dish tech folks said they are aware of a s/w compatibility problem between some 622 EHD formated transfers and the lack of being able to correctly transfer any of the 622-formatted files to a 722 for playback...said "They are working the problem and will have a s/w fix soon." If that tech doesn't have a clue...who am I supposed to believe?

Hmm...I had one 722k take awhile to recognize an initially 622 formatted EHD. It took a few days.

However, the 722k that replaced my failed 622k worked without any issues.
post #2185 of 2570
HBO and Cinemax went up $1 each for me, anyone else? I bet if I asked them about the price freeze, they would say something about this doesn't include HBO etc.
post #2186 of 2570
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

HBO and Cinemax went up $1 each for me, anyone else? I bet if I asked them about the price freeze, they would say something about this doesn't include HBO etc.

It always did..... The freeze was on packages, except Everything for obvious reasons, not Premiums, Sports, or Internationals.
post #2187 of 2570
lost some programs yesterday. the pulled my free 6 months of starz and wanted me to renew for $5 or $10 bucks a month. nope, not enough good movies to justify the expense. they always seem to run like 4-5 movies for 3 months and then switch to another 4-5 movies for 3 months.

also took away womens entertainment channel for some unknown reason.
pretty obscure channel but my wife watched it and was complaining about its disappearance. probably lost some other channels not yet aware of too.

dish used to be the most affordable provider, not so sure anymore. i'm close to being out of contract and will contact direct to see what they can do.

tell charlie making his product more expensive will not help him catch up with direct.
post #2188 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

also took away womens entertainment channel for some unknown reason. pretty obscure channel but my wife watched it and was complaining about its disappearance. probably lost some other channels not yet aware of too.

WE(womens entertainment) is no longer available unless you subscribe to the Top 200 Package. It was listed as a free preview during the month of February with a few other channels.

See here: http://www.mydish.com/perks/free-preview/
post #2189 of 2570
wow is anyone able to rent movies from bb?

dish's bb streaming really sucks. they won't let you choose movies to stream online only using the remote by manually going through thousands of movies one at a time. could take an hour or more to find one you want to watch given the pathetic system they set up.

called to complain and their response is well we just bought bb and need time to develop online content. seems kind of lame given that it can't be that hard or time consuming to set up an online site with all the bb movies available for streaming/download.

looks like we'll have to go back in time and go to the closest bb b & m and pick up the movies there.

i've given up and just use redbox. amazing bb with dish is now inferior to redbox. it looks like dish doesn't have the resources to make their bb pass work for subscribers.
post #2190 of 2570
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

looks like we'll have to go back in time and go to the closest bb b & m and pick up the movies there.

Can't even do that according to what support told me. Since their information says you can "exchange" your movies at the local BB I assumed that meant I could get one by mail, go to the local BB, return the mailed DVB/BD and get a new title.......................WRONG. It seems Dish doesn't understand English any better than their foreign support people do. Exchange to them means drop off the title that was mailed to you and wait for your next title to be mailed. Not sure how you can call that exchange but they do. No store pick up of movies. At least that is what support has told me.
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