Originally Posted by jjeff
I'll hold out as long as I can.
If you're waiting for perfection, you'll be waiting forever and will not have had the chance to enjoy the plusses of these technologies.
The TVGOS ads are very unobtrusive and easy to ignore. Heck, I couldn't even tell you what's being advertised in them right now. Even still, it's a small price to pay for the free service. And guide generations older than the 8th and 9th don't even get the ads. They have the space, but it remains empty. If you'd have been using TVGOS instead of manually timing all these earlier years since it's been around, you'd probably feel the same way about it as you feel about the difference between having an HDD or not in your DVD recorder, now that you've had the HDD. It just entails a couple of button presses, and you get a totally free, generally comprehensive guide to boot. And the service has consistently worked great for most users - you only hear about the problems here - not the good experiences, which are the vast majority of them.
As far as TVGOS and the Dish guides, like was mentioned earlier, you can easily set extra time before and after recordings. And the Sony (and all other TVGOS recorders) does and always did have the manual timer recording option - at least till next Feb.
One of the main reasons none of the few 480i HDD/DVD models that are out now don't thrill me very much is that they have no TVGOS. I could even accept the inferior quality of them if they at least had that one, redeeming feature, because my main reason for owning them is the DVR capability - I only occasionally record to DVD and I hardly ever watch pre-recorded ones.
No - at this point I probably wouldn't waste the money on a unit with an analog-based guide service, just to get a year's use out of it, if that proves to be the case. But if you'd have been experiencing it starting a few years back, like myself and many of the more longtime posters in the DVD Recorders forum have, I'm pretty sure you would feel it was well worth it, as they overwhelmingly do.