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post #61 of 4189
I am disappointed in the lack of details from the CES demo. It appears that they were just showing prototypes, while real products are still a long way off. The dancing girls in the gizmodo photos were tacky and shouldn't have been needed if the product itself was impressive. And if the real products are not priced LOWER than comparably sized flat panels, then I don't think they will sell.

The following article also raises questions about Arasor:
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/TVs_And...9N8B6D6?page=1

I'm hopeful that laser TV can live up to it's promises, but I remain skeptical at this point.
post #62 of 4189
i am excited about the technology , very unhappy with the price. todays times all anyone cares about is the mighty dollar. what a shame.
post #63 of 4189
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Clearly at some point they got greedy. Now they sound really high priced!
post #64 of 4189
no dought i want one of these and have been waiting for one , but for me just like lcds if it is too exspensive i wont buy. instead i will give my money to samsung and get one of there led rp tv's. i hope mits doesnt go the sony way and try to rape all the consumers with their overly priced ******** products.
post #65 of 4189
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Originally Posted by reio-ta View Post

Is Mitsubishi god damn serious? $33,000 for a RPTV which still has overscan? Mitsubishi needs to cut back on the saki and not stop eating tainted fugu so they quit being so delirious!

Source?
post #66 of 4189
Huge letdown. No model details, uncertain release date and from all accounts the price is going to be a major joke (same price as a similarly sized plasma or LCD? Give me a break). Adding a laser lightsource adds 3000 to the price of a DLP? I was expecting a premium, but nothing like that.

If that is the case why even bother?
post #67 of 4189
Wasn't there talk of laser TV at least 2 CESs ago? I know I have seen articles from last year at a minimum. I have to agree with most of the others here. This was rather disappointing. Sony dropped the 70" RP SXRD, laser TV is going to compete in the flat panel price range and the newer DLP technologies are not going to make it in until 2009. It looks like I need to change my plans.

I was hoping to hear about some RPTV larger than 73" this CES. It doesn't look like that is going to happen either. My room won't allow for a front projector, maybe a short throw projector? I may just have to settle for watching a 65" TV from 15' away.
post #68 of 4189
Other than pricing and thickness, it sounds like they have a winner on their hands. Of course either of those could reduce this technology to nothing more than an electronic Edsel.

I think the bigger of the two (and the real killer) is price. If they price this above 65" LCD, I fear it's gonna be dead before it arrives.

It seems 65" LCD lists for $19,999 (NEC LCD6520), $7999 - $9999 (Sharp Aquos LC-65D64U and LC65D93U), $6999 (Olevia 265TFHD) and The current 65" Mitsu DLP (WD-65833) lists for $3999.

As for street prices, LC-65D64 (LCD) is around $5600 -30% discount, and the WD-65833 (DLP) can be had for $2600 a -35% discount. Not sure where this quote puts the price... "and will retail over the price of current LCDs. ". This would seems to indicate it will list for something like $7500-$10500, that would put the street price between $4900 and $6700 if it follows current Mitsu DLP pricing. Not going to shake up the playing field at that price.

Maybe this pricing quote is based on the this from Mitsu's vice president of marketing, Frank DeMartin, "This year, 73 is the new 65". Could they mean the 73" laser DLP will sell for morethan the current 65" LCD? I know... doubtful.
post #69 of 4189
they need to get a 73 inch out at sub $4,000 in price in order to really compete. or keep it at the same price as the 73833. i'll buy it for sure, any higher than that and its too costly. i think its very late in the game to sell such a set at a high price, this isnt the 80's to mid 90s. i mean come on look at the 9mm deep kuro with infinite an contrast ratio thats coming in 09. and the thin flat screens that are coming out this year.
post #70 of 4189
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More of the same, but new: http://asia.cnet.com/ces/08/0,380001...2036323,00.htm
post #71 of 4189
I noticed that Mitsubishi launched a site specifically for their laser tv line. You can register for updates when they become available. So far there's not much content, just alot of "Coming Soon"s here and there..

http://believingisseeing.tv

So far I'm extremely dissapointed in all the latest news. I'm wondering if maybe Mitsubishi's kinda "shot themselves in the foot" with hese new sets. They spent all these years coming up with this new technology, and all this money. Maybe theyre coming to late to the table with it to be able recoup all that time and money spent. So to compensate theyre having to raise the prices of the set's much more than they had maybe planned due to all this, and as a result of this, they loose their appeal that they worked so hard to achieve. I mean come on, people primarily choose RPTV's due to their affordability in the larger sizes. If you sell em at much higher prices than what people are used to paying, you could lose a large share of the consumer market.

But so far there's been no official pricing and release dates, so let's just all hope for the best that all this talk is a bunch of speculation
post #72 of 4189
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Originally Posted by yadfgp View Post

I noticed that Mitsubishi launched a site specifically for their laser tv line. You can register for updates when they become available. So far there's not much content, just alot of "Coming Soon"s here and there..

http://believingisseeing.tv

Good find, and added!

The site makes it even clearer that they are still working on it all, no product pics, faqs, why else launch an empty site for CES?

This apparent new high price strategy takes many out of the buyer's list, including me. I would just buy a great projector for the money instead.
post #73 of 4189
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post #74 of 4189
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Originally Posted by Dungwader View Post

Well the quote saying it will be priced higher than current LCD technology is disappointing.



Maybe they meant current LCD RPTV technology. I don't see how Mitsubishi can brag about it costing less than current DLP to produce and then say it will cost the same as a 65" flat screen LCD (7-10K). The only other explanation and I think is probably the case here is that the Lasers are not ready for mass production and the supply will be extremely low in the beginning. This Laser DLP from Mitsubishi has been delayed quite a few times and it still won't be hitting stores until Fall 2008. There is clearly a production issue and the high price might reflect the small number of sets that will be available.
post #75 of 4189
At least compare apples to apples. The laser tv is 65 inches, not 70. Compare it to a 6-7 thousand dollar tv.
post #76 of 4189
I don't understanf why you are now speaking of a very big price, considering that the news on the first post is : $2,197.00 USD for the 65inch Mitsu.
Several month ago Mitsu spoke of a price of around 2000USD...
and the laser has always been presented as a way to lower the price a the display device.

Regards
Nicolas
post #77 of 4189
^^^^^ I agree. Yeah, I may choose a different type at 2200. But where are you getting these 6k-7k figures from?
post #78 of 4189
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Originally Posted by nmeunier View Post

I don't understanf why you are now speaking of a very big price, considering that the news on the first post is : $2,197.00 USD for the 65inch Mitsu.
Several month ago Mitsu spoke of a price of around 2000USD...
and the laser has always been presented as a way to lower the price a the display device.

Regards
Nicolas

All you have to do is read the first post, hell, it's even in bold!

"they'll only be available through high-end retailers" + " and will retail over the price of current LCDs" = ?
post #79 of 4189
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Originally Posted by MiahXgaming View Post

All you have to do is read the first post, hell, it's even in bold!

"they'll only be available through high-end retailers" + " and will retail over the price of current LCDs" = ?

OK, so there is 2 différents sources for a estimated price. Around 2000$ from one source and "over the price of current LCDs"...
Perhaps we can wait to sell a real and official annoucment BEFORE speculating more. Some are speaking of 6000$, some of 30000$, why not 1 millions...
...we will see.

regards
Nicolas
post #80 of 4189
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Originally Posted by nmeunier View Post

OK, so there is 2 différents sources for a estimated price. Around 2000$ from one source and "over the price of current LCDs"...
Perhaps we can wait to sell a real and official annoucment BEFORE speculating more. Some are speaking of 6000$, some of 30000$, why not 1 millions...
...we will see.

regards
Nicolas

Yup, and if you looked at the source of the $2000 price, it was from 2006...
post #81 of 4189
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Originally Posted by MiahXgaming View Post

Yup, and if you looked at the source of the $2000 price, it was from 2006...

Yes I know, there is a lot of new tech, which were supposed to be less pricy than old tech, and which are not. We will see. Personnaly I'm more waiting a DILA/Laser front projector.

You have to admit than the source "over the price of current LCDs" could mean a lot different thing.

Regards
Nicolas
post #82 of 4189
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nmeunier View Post

Yes I know, there is a lot of new tech, which were supposed to be less pricy than old tech, and which are not. We will see. Personnaly I'm more waiting a DILA/Laser front projector.

You have to admit than the source "over the price of current LCDs" could mean a lot different thing.

Regards
Nicolas

You mean they could mean it will be less than the current price of LCDs? What else could that mean? I wanted it to be inexpensive too, but no room for false hope there that I see.

A Laser Projector would be amazing, anything to lose the bulbs you have to replace yearly. I wonder if a Lifi projector might not be in the works.
post #83 of 4189
Mitsubishi has always been a preminium brand thats been targeted to the upscale consumer.

Offering a preminium priced, high tech, laser powered, 3D capable, big screen TV...

fits their marketing profile.

Prices should fall, after the first year's production, but expect early units to be expensive. Hhmmm... you might also expect a few gremlins with the early units too.

Personally, I would wait for the 2nd generation... before jumping.
post #84 of 4189
Sound and Vision speculates that the 65" Mits laser set will retail for $5,500.

Article here.

Other details. Laser to last life of set. (20 years mentioned!?) Less than 10" thick. Wall-mountable.

If true, that's a yes please from me.
post #85 of 4189
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Originally Posted by trumperZ06 View Post

Prices should fall, after the first year's production, but expect early units to be expensive. Hhmmm... you might also expect a few gremlins with the early units too.

Personally, I would wait for the 2nd generation... before jumping.

They don't even come out for a year, then 2nd gen possibly cheaper a year after that...my point exactly. Puts this TV out of many people's immediate purchase plans.

Better tech is coming sooner that will likely be comparable and cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Hopstretch View Post

Sound and Vision speculates that the 65" Mits laser set will retail for $5,500.

Article here.

Other details. Laser to last life of set. (20 years mentioned!?) Less than 10" thick. Wall-mountable.

If true, that's a yes please from me.

Wait, read again: "My guess is that the 65-inch set they demonstrated will sell for around $5,500." That's about as a good as a weather forecaster.

And who wants a 10" thick TV mounted on their wall?
post #86 of 4189
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Originally Posted by MiahXgaming View Post

They don't even come out for a year, then 2nd gen possibly cheaper a year after that...my point exactly. Puts this TV out of many people's immediate purchase plans.

Better tech is coming sooner that will likely be comparable and cheaper.



Wait, read again: "My guess is that the 65-inch set they demonstrated will sell for around $5,500." That's about as a good as a weather forecaster.

And who wants a 10" thick TV mounted on their wall?

they had 2 or 3 different 65 inch laser sets

one was the normal one
the 3d on was the diamond (obviously)

any news from ces on the mitz 3d bluray player yet?
post #87 of 4189
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Originally Posted by hdnola View Post

they had 2 or 3 different 65 inch laser sets

one was the normal one
the 3d on was the diamond (obviously)

I have never read that the 3 were different than eachother in any way, I must have missed that. Where did you read that part?

Thanks.
post #88 of 4189
Quote:
Originally Posted by hdnola View Post

they had 2 or 3 different 65 inch laser sets

one was the normal one
the 3d on was the diamond (obviously)

That's been Mit's SOP... since they first offered crt/wide screen projectors back in the early 1980's.

Diamond has been their "Preminium Level" offering additional "Bells & Whistles".

Like with entirely new car models... any brand new HDTV technology will have "teething problems"... and Mit's been famous lately... letting their customers do the "Beta Testing".
post #89 of 4189
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiahXgaming View Post

Wait, read again: "My guess is that the 65-inch set they demonstrated will sell for around $5,500." That's about as a good as a weather forecaster.

And that's as good as we've got in this here thread.
post #90 of 4189
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiahXgaming View Post

I have never read that the 3 were different than eachother in any way, I must have missed that. Where did you read that part?

Thanks.

most articles said they had one 3d set on display (and usually mits has multiple models of each size) i guess maybe all are 3d, but the diamond will have realD processing and 240hz
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