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post #61 of 173
1/11/08 at 11:59am
Is this for real. Is there any chance that HD DVD can save this???
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post #62 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Mustang68 View Post

Is this for real. Is there any chance that HD DVD can save this???


It's not dead, but it is hurting badly.
The Warner deal is a huge blow, most of the best looking movies on HD were Troy, Batman Begins and the Harry Potter movies.

Can they save it? they can, but it's not going to be easy, they really need to get Microsoft to step up and take their supportive role more seriously.. the inked these films to Xbox 360 download they can certainly get some HD-DVD support in there as well.
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post #63 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:19pm
I too am debating returning an A3 from the BB sale w/2 free movies. My dilema is that it is the fourth HD player in the house and am thinking that money is just better off saved for the HD movie sale that is coming.

Have two PS3's for Bluray and refuse to buy any stand alone players until they get their act together.

Sure will miss HD in the long run.

*** Luckily I procrastinated in sending in my rebates
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post #64 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:19pm
[quote=jsmiddleton4;12781352 Good lesson in terms of waiting to send in the rebate for awhile on these higher dollar items.

Jim[/QUOTE]


Yeah no kidding, I just decided to get it out of the way and bam a reason why I shouldn't have. I have been stairing at the box with a hole where the UPC once lived and kicking myself. Oh well at least it up converts well.
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post #65 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:39pm
Should I return my HD DVD Player?


Seems to me that these "should I return my HD DVD" threads gather a lot of replies from dyed in the wool fanatics with thousands of dollars invested in a failing format that they (very understandably!) are loathe to see perish. Now, I appreciate that not all the "I'm keeping mine" replies are of this nature but many are.

I feel their pain . . . but their advice is both self-serving and wrong-headed. You are NOT in their situation.

If you are asking this question, two things are pretty evident:
1/ you can still do so and . . .
2/ you pretty much already know the answer.

Advice from entrenched HD DVD owners, with everything to lose, is just not what you need to read, as it is totally irrelevant to your situation.

I was able to return my player . . . and did so with great haste after the Warner announcement. So much of the advice proffered on this forum comes from people who can not . . . and from people with hundreds of dollars invested in movies that can't be returned either.

Why would you listen to them?

I make no claim to prescience as to the ultimate fate of HD DVD but it seems a singularly poor time to jump into this format.

I am not sure what I would do if I owned a player that could not be returned or if I owned a whole bunch of movies on HD DVD. Grin and bear it, I guess and enjoy my movies best as I can.

But, buy into this format now?

Preposterous!

Take your player back and wait it out a bit.
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post #66 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by dawziecat View Post

Should I return my HD DVD Player?


Seems to me that these "should I return my HD DVD" threads gather a lot of replies from dyed in the wool fanatics with thousands of dollars invested in a failing format that they (very understandably!) are loathe to see perish. Now, I appreciate that not all the "I'm keeping mine" replies are of this nature but many are.

I feel their pain . . . but their advice is both self-serving and wrong-headed. You are NOT in their situation.

If you are asking this question, two things are pretty evident:
1/ you can still do so and . . .
2/ you pretty much already know the answer.

Advice from entrenched HD DVD owners, with everything to lose, is just not what you need to read, as it is totally irrelevant to your situation.

I was able to return my player . . . and did so with great haste after the Warner announcement. So much of the advice proffered on this forum comes from people who can not . . . and from people with hundreds of dollars invested in movies that can't be returned either.

Why would you listen to them?

I make no claim to prescience as to the ultimate fate of HD DVD but it seems a singularly poor time to jump into this format.

I am not sure what I would do if I owned a player that could not be returned or if I owned a whole bunch of movies on HD DVD. Grin and bear it, I guess and enjoy my movies best as I can.

But, buy into this format now?

Preposterous!

Take your player back and wait it out a bit.

Well said sir.
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post #67 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:43pm
Honestly it depends, if you don't have that many HD-DVD movies then returning it would be wise, in my opinion. I bought the HD-A1 when it first came out and was impressed and picked up a few titles (currently at 25-30). Then Blu-ray came out and the Samsung player was horrible so I stuck with HD until the next wave came out. In all honesty I prefer blu-ray after having both. Like others here I was format neutral didn't care who won as long as someone won because we don't need two formats.
Whether you chose to return it or not is up to you. Sit down weigh in all your options and make your choice. Don't listen to fanboys from either side that act like their player is the holy grail and want to make babies with the player.
Even when HD-DVD finally dies this year players will still be available. Heck, you can still buy LD and even get a betamax player on ebay.
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post #68 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by dawziecat View Post

Should I return my HD DVD Player?


Seems to me that these "should I return my HD DVD" threads gather a lot of replies from dyed in the wool fanatics with thousands of dollars invested in a failing format that they (very understandably!) are loathe to see perish. Now, I appreciate that not all the "I'm keeping mine" replies are of this nature but many are.

I feel their pain . . . but their advice is both self-serving and wrong-headed. You are NOT in their situation.

If you are asking this question, two things are pretty evident:
1/ you can still do so and . . .
2/ you pretty much already know the answer.

Advice from entrenched HD DVD owners, with everything to lose, is just not what you need to read, as it is totally irrelevant to your situation.

I was able to return my player . . . and did so with great haste after the Warner announcement. So much of the advice proffered on this forum comes from people who can not . . . and from people with hundreds of dollars invested in movies that can't be returned either.

Why would you listen to them?

I make no claim to prescience as to the ultimate fate of HD DVD but it seems a singularly poor time to jump into this format.

I am not sure what I would do if I owned a player that could not be returned or if I owned a whole bunch of movies on HD DVD. Grin and bear it, I guess and enjoy my movies best as I can.

But, buy into this format now?

Preposterous!

Take your player back and wait it out a bit.

Good Lord! Well said Sir!
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post #69 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

"Has anyone here had success returning a Toshiba player to BB with or without the UPC?"

Jim

Luckily - I procrastinated cutting out my UPC for the 5 free movies - so I'm returning my A20 ($350.) to Costco today. I also just sold 29 of my 30 HD-DVD titles on e-bay. Most were buy-it-now auctions from $9.99 - 11.99 Most of the titles I got BOGO from amazon and Circuit City - so I should break about even. But I already miss my player and the discs. Hope I didn't overreact
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post #70 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by stjbrown View Post

Has anyone here had success returning a Toshiba player to BB with or without the UPC? I sent my rebate in the day before the Warner announcement and I really wish I could take it back. I have not tried but I assume BB will laugh at me and thank the stars the dumped another with the old rebate sign away your right to return trick.

Call a BB store and tell them you lost the box but have the manual and all the other junk that came with it. Ask if you can still return it. You may get a yes and if so head on down quickly and get your money back or you could just show up and complain that the receipt doesn't clearly state you need the box (I am assuming it doesn't. Don't really shop at BB so I don't know)
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post #71 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:51pm
I have the A3 and 8 titles in HD, it converts my standard def stuff really wel and there will soon be an onslaught of bargain HD-DVD titles on the market. HMM, lets see, I can get hd title for $15.00, or newly transfered blu ray title for $30.00. Looks like my HD collection is about to get larger at a discount. And I will pickup the PS3 cause I can't wait to see Finding Nemo in high def.
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post #72 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:55pm
I'm keeping mine... this is one reason why.

I need a player... any player... that can play non region 1 discs. from what I understand BD players aren't region free.
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post #73 of 173
1/11/08 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by misfit410 View Post

Not a deathblow, it's a few broken bones..

People seriously, if you chose HD-DVD you can change the course, the issue is there are more HD-DVD players in the field but people just are not buying the movies.. if you paid good money for the player go buy movies.. support your system, things can shift.. but not if you stop your support.

Increase it, if you believe it's the better product increase your support and studios will take notice. In the end studios are going to go where the most movie sales are, Blu-Ray had less player sales but more movie sales, but it's a fluke IMO, it's because since November of 2006 you had about 1 million PS3 owners with no games to play.. and now they have 3 games to play so it's lessening the effect.


Sorry Misfit but the reality is 75% of all content past and future, is now Blue Ray only. Thats a deathblow, and with a 25% content market HD DVD will be lucky to last three more months. Paramont no matter what they say now won't stay HD DVD exclusive for long, it's business, and the money and future are no longer there.To be honest it's not really a bad thing, it's sucks to some degree for people like me that have 60 some HD titles, but also have 40 or so Blue Ray, so it looks like a combo player is in my future. As fo if HD DVD was the better product or not it make little difference at this point, the bottom line is at their best, they both work great, Blue Ray just had more long term marketing power.
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post #74 of 173
1/11/08 at 1:02pm
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Advice from entrenched HD DVD owners, with everything to lose, is just not what you need to read, as it is totally irrelevant to your situation.

Very amusing comment. Many HD DVD owners also have Blu Ray players. It's not as if they've invested in some grandiose investment and the bottom has dropped out. They have nothing to lose because they've still got the movies to enjoy and players which upconvert and play sd dvds. Why should they dump a probably inexpensive player with numerous movies unless their going to do something like buy the SAME movies on the other format thus duplicating/losing their money for qualitatively the same movie, resolution etc.. Their advice is particularly relevant and yours is not because you quickly bailed out as if possessing a player would bring on a strange incurable disease.

And that bit about "hundreds of dollars invested in movies that can't be returned either" doesn't really ring true. They can resell them if they want but again it's not as if as first time adopters their lifetime investments have been lost with the purchase of a few movies. Some of which may never be transferred to the Blu Ray format.
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post #75 of 173
1/11/08 at 1:49pm
I am format neutral and own three HD-DVD players (one still in box) and two Bluray players. the way I see it, is although I spent a bit of money on HD-DVD I am not disappointed. The HD-DVD will be a great upconevrting player (putting less use on my Bluray players) they also will play my HD-DVD movies for years to come. If a player breaks say in five years, I have a backup still new in box). Now in ten years or so, we will all be on to the next big thing, but I will not have to buy replacement Bluray movies for titles I currently have in HD-DVD. The HD-DVD movies in the coming months are going to be very cheap as stores try to unload them, so buy them, your player will still play them, the movies will still be in HD and the only problem is that you will have to occupy some rack space to have a new Bluray player and an outdated HD-DVD player.

Heck I still have a laserdisc player that I turn on from time to time.
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post #76 of 173
1/11/08 at 2:04pm
YES - you should return the HD-DVD and see if you can get a blu-ray - unfortunaly HD-DVD is dead or at least it is in the ICU. I have a tosh a-30 (got in oct) and a pany bd30 (got in dec).
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post #77 of 173
1/11/08 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by WilliamC View Post

Call a BB store and tell them you lost the box but have the manual and all the other junk that came with it. Ask if you can still return it. You may get a yes and if so head on down quickly and get your money back or you could just show up and complain that the receipt doesn't clearly state you need the box (I am assuming it doesn't. Don't really shop at BB so I don't know)

You probably can return it to BB or CC without the box. Provided you have the unit, receipt, remote, cables, etc. They will probably take it back. However, they might charge you a 15% restock fee or something. But then you could just sell the 5 movies on ebay and make that 15% back.

I bet all the stores are getting flooded with HD-DVD player returns right now. So they may start pushing back, because they know they are going to have to eat them.
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post #78 of 173
1/11/08 at 2:32pm
Return it HD-DVD is dead
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post #79 of 173
1/11/08 at 2:42pm
I'd return it. When Warner stops making hd-dvd disks, all toshiba hd players will cease to work. They will be no more than a big black box of electronics.
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post #80 of 173
1/11/08 at 4:24pm
I have an A2 and a PS3. I am going to be selling the PS3 and my games because I don't play that often and I just pissed when some punk kid beats my butt at Madden online!

I will be buying a blu-ray to replace my PS3, but not until it drops to around $250 or less. I bought my A2 for $99 and love it so far. It is better at up-conversion than my PS3 on my 720p Panny! I don't watch movies that much anyways, so I feel good about having the A2 and no blu-ray for now!!
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post #81 of 173
1/11/08 at 4:44pm
I picked up a HD-XA2 awhile back and we watch a lot of reg DVDs on it and wouldn't think of returning it, best DVD player I've ever owned.
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post #82 of 173
1/11/08 at 8:21pm
i don't believe that the hd dvd format is dead. call it denial or call it what you will... toshiba must have an ace up their sleeve if they're still holding on after warner turned. in the last week, i've read more about these two formats than i care to admit and about 90% of it all was likely propaganda.

but like others have said, regardless of the outcome, i will keep my hd dvd player as it is the best optical player i've owned. who else has noticed the total erradication of the dual-layer pause?
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post #83 of 173
1/12/08 at 12:18am
Have you seen the thread by Robert who sponsors his electronics store here at AVS. He announced that Toshiba has dropped their price on all the HD players by 50-60%.

Return your full price unit and buy it back at the fire sale that is coming

I really thought HD would pull it out though
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post #84 of 173
1/12/08 at 4:38am
HD DVD is not dead yet. Warner is going to continue to release HD DVD titles for the next five months, and just like what Paramount did, another studio could take the side of HD DVD during that time.

Buying into either format is a risk, because even if the other side becomes extinct tomorrow, it still has an uphill battle against the reigning champion, standard DVD. Mass market acceptance is still at least a couple of years away, and may never happen at all, just like it never happened for laserdisc and SACD and DVD-Audio.

On the Blu-Ray side, with the player specs changing from 1.0 to 1.1 to 2.0 and more, buying a player now could mean not being able to properly play next year's titles. That's yet another risk.

I hope those who are returning their players are doing so to stay out of format war altogether rather than buying into Blu-Ray. If you are so skittish and scared that you're going to jump to sell or return your player based on a mere announcement, you don't have the balls to be in this game on either side.
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post #85 of 173
1/12/08 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by dawziecat View Post

Should I return my HD DVD Player?


Seems to me that these "should I return my HD DVD" threads gather a lot of replies from dyed in the wool fanatics with thousands of dollars invested in a failing format that they (very understandably!) are loathe to see perish. Now, I appreciate that not all the "I'm keeping mine" replies are of this nature but many are.

I feel their pain . . . but their advice is both self-serving and wrong-headed. You are NOT in their situation.

If you are asking this question, two things are pretty evident:
1/ you can still do so and . . .
2/ you pretty much already know the answer.

Advice from entrenched HD DVD owners, with everything to lose, is just not what you need to read, as it is totally irrelevant to your situation.

I was able to return my player . . . and did so with great haste after the Warner announcement. So much of the advice proffered on this forum comes from people who can not . . . and from people with hundreds of dollars invested in movies that can't be returned either.

Why would you listen to them?

I make no claim to prescience as to the ultimate fate of HD DVD but it seems a singularly poor time to jump into this format.

I am not sure what I would do if I owned a player that could not be returned or if I owned a whole bunch of movies on HD DVD. Grin and bear it, I guess and enjoy my movies best as I can.

But, buy into this format now?

Preposterous!

Take your player back and wait it out a bit.

Nonsense. Would you say someone who bought a $99 DVD player to take it back?

Now add to that, would you tell someone to take back the DVD player that they paid $99 for that has even HD movies to watch on it?

That's enough right there.

It's nonsense to say someone to go and take back something that is cheap and an excellent product that gives them even more then what a regular dvd does.
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post #86 of 173
1/12/08 at 8:37am
I have the A2 and will be keeping it as I find it is better at upconverting SD than my BD30. I was really surprised how good The Bourne Ultimatum and Rush Hour 3 looking in SD using the A2 with my 50" 768 plasma. But when I bought The Bourne Ultimatum on HDDVD it is quite a bit better than the SD version.

I would think the difference would be much more so on a larger screen. Where I notice how much better HDDVD or Bluray is when there is any text or with background objects in movies. With SD these segments are not as clear or as sharp with the HD formats.

Bill
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post #87 of 173
1/12/08 at 10:09am
If you already have a good DVD Player, return it.
If you don't need a DVD at all, return it.

And get a PS3 until there are decent and affordable standalone players..

I just put mine on ebay because I don't need the XA2's DVD capabilities and I don't have a huge collection so it doesn't make sense to keep it.
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post #88 of 173
1/12/08 at 11:43am
With New msrp announced Price match baby

A3 149
A30 199
A35 299

I am finally going to get a A35
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post #89 of 173
1/12/08 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by HB GAMER View Post

With New msrp announced Price match baby

A3 149
A30 199
A35 299

I am finally going to get a A35

Not me savng my coin for the Panny BD50 player, I already have the A2.

Rob
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post #90 of 173
1/12/08 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by GongShow87 View Post

For christmas I got the Toshiba HD A3 player and loved it. But over the past week I've been starting to feel like the Blu Ray will win over HD DVD and that it would be a prudent decision to get a blu ray player. BTW, my mom got it from costco, so I can return it basically any time. So, should I return it and invest in a blu ray player? I was thinking since I'm a gamer I would get a PS3 since it's around the price range of other blue ray players and well... it plays other games my 360 doesn't play.

It's a shame, since I was really pulling for HD DVD and I was only able to watch 1 HD movie since I got my new A3 and I might have to return it. I didn't even send in for the free movies...

Why would you return your player? Even if Blu-Ray wins....eventual all the Studios will support the HD-DVD format; they will have no choice if millions of people have the player. Do you really think Toshiba will stop making the player? They will just call it an up-converter player that by the way can play HD-DVDs. You will probably see player under $50.00. This might actually be the way the Format survives if it fails now.
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