Originally Posted by wxboy
i find sage's interface clunky and unnecessary.... too much bloat for lacking function.
That's a valid opinion that you're entitled to.
does sage have the universal decoder support of BTV?
You mean being able to use any Dshow MPEG decoder? Yes.
or the extensive plugin library??
it has an extensive customization library yes, I cannot compare it to BTV because I'm not familiar with BTV's plugins.
I tried sage for the 15 day trial.... gave it up after 3 days.... was just curious what it was like compared to beyond. it just simply was not as intuitive....
That's fair, but that hardly qualifies you to make such sweeping comments like above, comments that are clearly inaccurate (eg "not customizeable", "no PC client"). Oh, and it's a 21 day trial now.
and as far as extenders etc goes, thats fine, but thats taking the product in a different direction.
Sage is going in both directions, it's was (to my knowledge) the first program to have a PC client, has an internet-capable client. Sage currently has the widest breadth of client/extender/server options of any solution out there: Linux/Mac/Windows/WHS servers/clients (two Windows clients) two hardware extenders.
beyond is more aimed at the technical pc market, those who want to customize and understand their pvr, as well as have excelent functionality...... sage is aimed at an HTPC enthusiast market....
I'm not sure how you get that, Sage has about the most powerful PVR engine out there (maybe BTV's is comparable), and it's completely customizable to do anything you want. Really, I have no idea what you're saying there.
just two different markets i guess, but not as powerful as BTV.
I categorically disagree with that.
I have yet to find a tuner that does not have a near perfect solution in beyond, while sage has many unsupported devices (as i'm aware, there is no firewire recording solution.. no apple tv, ipod compat, etc)
Sage supports firewire tuning, network encoders*, ATSC, QAM, DVB-* tuning. Sage supports transcoding to MPEG-4 (not sure there's a specific iPod profile, but you could make one I'm sure).
*network encoders are a big deal because they allow integration of lots of capture devices not seen elsewhere:
Look, I have no problem with BTV, I don't run it, I don't like it personally, others don't like SageTV, that's fine, but I don't think any of the information you've posted about Sage is even close to correct.
If you want to start a new thread to discuss Sage feel free.