Originally Posted by AlphaFox
how useless.. well I know I have been waiting for a product like this to come out for a LONG time as everyone can get HD out of their cable box via component. now there is finally a way to import it on a PC, but it wont work with anything but their custom app?? how short sited.. im sure someone will hack this if they dont come up with an appropriate driver to allow it to work in a popular front end like sage or VMC..
(vmc = vista media center, right?)
That is an incorrect assertion. Hauppauge bundles an app, but you can you use it in any other app - it's not locked down at all. The issue is that VMC is not h.264 friendly right now, and while MSFT could make this card work easily, most people have concluded that they will not. So don't blame hauppauge for MSFT's braindamage - it's not their fault. Sage and I would imagine the beyondtv guys (who cater to us, the HTPC enthusiast crowd) will put the work in to make this card function in their systems, at least the Sage guys have made statements to that effect. Sage already plays back h.264 content just fine, as do their extenders, so it's not a big delta for them.
Why does everyone think the world has to be responsible for retrofitting stuff into MSFT code, when all the other PVR vendors just do the work to make it happen themselves? Don't blame the hauppauge people - I guarantee they would love to be able to sell it into the MCE/VMC marketplace, but some changes are too big for a vendor like Hauppauge to make.
As I've said before many times, you guys all have expectations from VMC that MSFT has no intention of fulfilling. You complain and cajole folks to make cards like this one, but then get mad at them when their stuff doesn't work in MCE/VMC, instead of blaming MSFT for not making it work like the other vendors do. You all want to be able to play a ripped DVD library on extenders, and when MSFT says they aren't going to make that work, you keep on buying their stuff and complaining about why it doesn't work. Why do you expect that functionality in the first place when MSFt has told you they aren't going to build it in???
If you want to be able to do unrestricted recording of HD material from STB's, MSFT has made that very hard to do, and others make it easy. If you insist on trying to use a hammer to insert a screw instead of using a screwdriver, don't expect the screw to go in straight and have a neat hole. Geez...