Originally Posted by hifisponge
"Our new Dancer Diamond DMD speakers employ a laminated diamond-metal-diamond tweeter (DMD), which consists of a proprietary metal alloy dome coated with an amorphous diamond-like carbon layer
on both sides."
Originally Posted by hifisponge
Not criticizing you choice in speakers, if they sound good, they sound good and it doesn't matter if the tweeter are made of rice paper or diamond.
I just have a thing for authenticity. I don't like being sold on the promise of one thing when it is really another.
Originally Posted by adidino
I agree with this statement... (just wanted to add my 2 cents)
Like I said, and hifisponge agrees with, I don't care what the tweeters are made from, they sound good -- pure BE or otherwise, it didn't change my opinion about how they sound. FWIW, the professional who set up my PEQ yesterday, was very impressed with the sound and he likes Ushers except he made a comment that "they're expensive". When I told him that my speakers list for under $5K a pair, his jaw dropped. Now this is a guy who last week was working on a $750K home system and, while I am sure my room doesn't sound as good as that system should, I do respect his opinion about both Usher as a brand and these speakers in particular.
As for the BE/Usher controversy, if people are interested in learning more about it, you can start off here:http://www.avguide.com/forums/the-wh...ium-diaphragms
The first post is by Steve Mowry who apparently is the guy on a mission about the subject. I'll let others decide whether or not Usher was intentionally mis-leading anyone on the BE subject or if it really is a controversy since the speakers in question (BE-718) are highly regarded by all reviewers.
The new diamond series tweeters, like hifisponge found above, are described that way on their website and I don't have an issue with what they are calling the new line of speakers -- Diamond Series -- since it appears that they are being transparent in how these tweeters are manufactured and the tweeters are described this way under specifications on the website: "metallic-ceramic dome tweeter". If you open the PDF below, you'll find more information on the tweeter and how they came up with the diamond designation. Perhaps there is a bit of marketing involved here by Usher, but again, they are being transparent about the manufacturing process.
As for the cubic zirconia comment, while I know it was in jest, buyers can make up their own mind whether B&W speakers with a diamond tweeter http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/displa...623&artid=1572
sound better than Usher Diamond Series speakers http://www.usheraudiousa.com/files/d...es-catalog.pdf
after listening to them.
Ultimately, I believe that we are all after truth in advertising. I, too, don't like being sold on the promise of one thing when it is another, but to me the BE/Usher issue is pretty far down on the list of things to be upset about since it doesn't impact how these speakers perform.
Since we're all after truth in advertising, I assume that you'll agree with me that Classe needs to change the advertising for the SSP-800 and be authentic. I suggest that they add the following to the second paragraph of their copy (in bold) http://www.classeaudio.com/delta/detail-ssp-800.htm
"The SSP-800 was conceived with pure performance as its raison d'être. It can seamlessly weave audio and video into a faithful reproduction of the original master, reproducing music and movies exactly as the artists imagined. It was created by people who are uniquely qualified, having both the technical skill and aesthetic judgment to bring performances to life. But you won't hear all of the music on quite a few CD tracks because we truncate it, and we still have some issues with the HDMI handshake that our mid-fi competitors have largely solved.
Afterall, we love the SSP-800's transparent sound, so they might as well be transparent about the operational shortcomings especially almost two years after it was introduced http://www.classeaudio.com/press/pre...ease.htm?id=19
and I don't want anyone being sold on the promise of one thing and getting another!